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DougW 10-16-2006 08:49 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 
SBlackfoot wrote:
>> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
>> without the key in.

>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> lock-to-lock without the keys?


Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
out and jacknife you)

I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
left/right then remove the key. It should lock.


--
DougW



DougW 10-16-2006 08:49 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 
SBlackfoot wrote:
>> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
>> without the key in.

>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> lock-to-lock without the keys?


Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
out and jacknife you)

I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
left/right then remove the key. It should lock.


--
DougW



nawt2smart 10-16-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
> > I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot

> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
> three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
> without the keys?
>
>


I have gone a full turn one way, but it is difficult and I don't want
to bend a tie rod or whatever under there. Makes me think my lock is
broken. Have to check it out. FWIW, I leave the key in with one click
in when flat towing.


nawt2smart 10-16-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
> > I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot

> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
> three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
> without the keys?
>
>


I have gone a full turn one way, but it is difficult and I don't want
to bend a tie rod or whatever under there. Makes me think my lock is
broken. Have to check it out. FWIW, I leave the key in with one click
in when flat towing.


nawt2smart 10-16-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
> > I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot

> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
> three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
> without the keys?
>
>


I have gone a full turn one way, but it is difficult and I don't want
to bend a tie rod or whatever under there. Makes me think my lock is
broken. Have to check it out. FWIW, I leave the key in with one click
in when flat towing.


nawt2smart 10-16-2006 09:41 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 

DougW wrote:
> SBlackfoot wrote:
> >> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> >> without the key in.

> >
> >
> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?

>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW


You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
try it without the keys. FUBAR!


nawt2smart 10-16-2006 09:41 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 

DougW wrote:
> SBlackfoot wrote:
> >> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> >> without the key in.

> >
> >
> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?

>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW


You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
try it without the keys. FUBAR!


nawt2smart 10-16-2006 09:41 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 

DougW wrote:
> SBlackfoot wrote:
> >> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> >> without the key in.

> >
> >
> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?

>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW


You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
try it without the keys. FUBAR!


DougW 10-16-2006 10:02 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 
nawt2smart wrote:

>
> You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
> try it without the keys. FUBAR!


If your worried about someone stealing the car, simply pull the ESD
or fuel pump relay (or main fuse) and put it in your tow vehicle.
I do this all the time when leaving the ZJ at an airport parking lot.

--
DougW



DougW 10-16-2006 10:02 PM

Re: Towing 4 down
 
nawt2smart wrote:

>
> You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
> try it without the keys. FUBAR!


If your worried about someone stealing the car, simply pull the ESD
or fuel pump relay (or main fuse) and put it in your tow vehicle.
I do this all the time when leaving the ZJ at an airport parking lot.

--
DougW




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