Towing 4 down
 

Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed 4
down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don

Re: Towing 4 down
 

Yes it can. And, you do it just like you think, tcase in N and trans in P,
with the steering unlocked.




"Don Hamilton" <cdhamil@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed 4
> down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don
>

Re: Towing 4 down
 

Yes it can. And, you do it just like you think, tcase in N and trans in P,
with the steering unlocked.




"Don Hamilton" <cdhamil@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed 4
> down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don
>

Re: Towing 4 down
 

Yes it can. And, you do it just like you think, tcase in N and trans in P,
with the steering unlocked.




"Don Hamilton" <cdhamil@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed 4
> down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don
>

Re: Towing 4 down
 

What does it say in the owner's manual?
--
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Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Towing 4 down
 

What does it say in the owner's manual?
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Towing 4 down
 

What does it say in the owner's manual?
--
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Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Re: Towing 4 down
 

Don Hamilton wrote:
> Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed 4
> down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don

Yes. I have an 05 rubicon (not unlimited). Tcase in neutral and trans
in park. Ebrake off. Key turned just one click in. I wonder if the
key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot without the key in.
Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.

Re: Towing 4 down
 

Don Hamilton wrote:
> Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed 4
> down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don

Yes. I have an 05 rubicon (not unlimited). Tcase in neutral and trans
in park. Ebrake off. Key turned just one click in. I wonder if the
key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot without the key in.
Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.

Re: Towing 4 down
 

Don Hamilton wrote:
> Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed 4
> down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don

Yes. I have an 05 rubicon (not unlimited). Tcase in neutral and trans
in park. Ebrake off. Key turned just one click in. I wonder if the
key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot without the key in.
Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.

Re: Towing 4 down
 

You shouldn't be able to turn the wheel without the key in. Yes, you aren't
supposed to tow with the wheel locked. It will break stuff.

Earle

"nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message
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>
> Don Hamilton wrote:
> > Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed
4
> > down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> > neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don
>
> Yes. I have an 05 rubicon (not unlimited). Tcase in neutral and trans
> in park. Ebrake off. Key turned just one click in. I wonder if the
> key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot without the key in.
> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.
>



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Re: Towing 4 down
 

You shouldn't be able to turn the wheel without the key in. Yes, you aren't
supposed to tow with the wheel locked. It will break stuff.

Earle

"nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message
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>
> Don Hamilton wrote:
> > Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed
4
> > down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> > neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don
>
> Yes. I have an 05 rubicon (not unlimited). Tcase in neutral and trans
> in park. Ebrake off. Key turned just one click in. I wonder if the
> key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot without the key in.
> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.
>



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Re: Towing 4 down
 

You shouldn't be able to turn the wheel without the key in. Yes, you aren't
supposed to tow with the wheel locked. It will break stuff.

Earle

"nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message
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>
> Don Hamilton wrote:
> > Can a 2005 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited Wrangler with automatic trans be towed
4
> > down like the older Jeeps? I am aware of putting the transfer case in
> > neutral and the trans in park with steering unlocked. Thanks Don
>
> Yes. I have an 05 rubicon (not unlimited). Tcase in neutral and trans
> in park. Ebrake off. Key turned just one click in. I wonder if the
> key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot without the key in.
> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.
>



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Re: Towing 4 down
 

"nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message

<snip>


> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.

No. It is to allow the steering wheel to turn. If you can remove the key and
still turn the wheel, then you get a bonus because you can lock the cab
while you are under way -- this allows you to forget about your Jeep if you
decide to park somewhere.


>

Re: Towing 4 down
 

"nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message

<snip>


> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.

No. It is to allow the steering wheel to turn. If you can remove the key and
still turn the wheel, then you get a bonus because you can lock the cab
while you are under way -- this allows you to forget about your Jeep if you
decide to park somewhere.


>

Re: Towing 4 down
 

"nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message

<snip>


> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.

No. It is to allow the steering wheel to turn. If you can remove the key and
still turn the wheel, then you get a bonus because you can lock the cab
while you are under way -- this allows you to forget about your Jeep if you
decide to park somewhere.


>

Re: Towing 4 down
 

> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
without the key in.


My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
without the keys?



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Re: Towing 4 down
 

> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
without the key in.


My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
without the keys?



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Re: Towing 4 down
 

> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
without the key in.


My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
without the keys?



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Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
>> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
>> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> lock-to-lock without the keys?

Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
out and jacknife you)

I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
left/right then remove the key. It should lock.


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Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
>> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
>> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> lock-to-lock without the keys?

Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
out and jacknife you)

I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
left/right then remove the key. It should lock.


--
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Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
>> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
>> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> lock-to-lock without the keys?

Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
out and jacknife you)

I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
left/right then remove the key. It should lock.


--
DougW

Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
> > I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
> three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
> without the keys?
>
>

I have gone a full turn one way, but it is difficult and I don't want
to bend a tie rod or whatever under there. Makes me think my lock is
broken. Have to check it out. FWIW, I leave the key in with one click
in when flat towing.

Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
> > I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
> three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
> without the keys?
>
>

I have gone a full turn one way, but it is difficult and I don't want
to bend a tie rod or whatever under there. Makes me think my lock is
broken. Have to check it out. FWIW, I leave the key in with one click
in when flat towing.

Re: Towing 4 down
 

SBlackfoot wrote:
> > I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> without the key in.
>
>
> My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half to
> three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone lock-to-lock
> without the keys?
>
>

I have gone a full turn one way, but it is difficult and I don't want
to bend a tie rod or whatever under there. Makes me think my lock is
broken. Have to check it out. FWIW, I leave the key in with one click
in when flat towing.

Re: Towing 4 down
 

DougW wrote:
> SBlackfoot wrote:
> >> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> >> without the key in.
> >
> >
> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?
>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW

You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
try it without the keys. FUBAR!

Re: Towing 4 down
 

DougW wrote:
> SBlackfoot wrote:
> >> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> >> without the key in.
> >
> >
> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?
>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW

You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
try it without the keys. FUBAR!

Re: Towing 4 down
 

DougW wrote:
> SBlackfoot wrote:
> >> I wonder if the key has to be done, as I can turn the wheel with ot
> >> without the key in.
> >
> >
> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?
>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW

You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
try it without the keys. FUBAR!

Re: Towing 4 down
 

nawt2smart wrote:

>
> You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
> try it without the keys. FUBAR!

If your worried about someone stealing the car, simply pull the ESD
or fuel pump relay (or main fuse) and put it in your tow vehicle.
I do this all the time when leaving the ZJ at an airport parking lot.

--
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Re: Towing 4 down
 

nawt2smart wrote:

>
> You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
> try it without the keys. FUBAR!

If your worried about someone stealing the car, simply pull the ESD
or fuel pump relay (or main fuse) and put it in your tow vehicle.
I do this all the time when leaving the ZJ at an airport parking lot.

--
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Re: Towing 4 down
 

nawt2smart wrote:

>
> You are correct, 1.5 turns to the left and it locked. Glad I didn't
> try it without the keys. FUBAR!

If your worried about someone stealing the car, simply pull the ESD
or fuel pump relay (or main fuse) and put it in your tow vehicle.
I do this all the time when leaving the ZJ at an airport parking lot.

--
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Re: Towing 4 down
 

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
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> What does it say in the owner's manual?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
I checked and was surprised under towing a disabled vehicle it wants all 4
up. This got me confused and wondering. I looked again after your reply and
found what was called recreational towing and 4 down is fine just transfer
in neutral, trans in park and unlocked steering. Thanks for the reply the
manual is what got me confused. Don

Re: Towing 4 down
 

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
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> What does it say in the owner's manual?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
I checked and was surprised under towing a disabled vehicle it wants all 4
up. This got me confused and wondering. I looked again after your reply and
found what was called recreational towing and 4 down is fine just transfer
in neutral, trans in park and unlocked steering. Thanks for the reply the
manual is what got me confused. Don

Re: Towing 4 down
 

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:4phd8uFit68fU1@individual.net...
> What does it say in the owner's manual?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty
I checked and was surprised under towing a disabled vehicle it wants all 4
up. This got me confused and wondering. I looked again after your reply and
found what was called recreational towing and 4 down is fine just transfer
in neutral, trans in park and unlocked steering. Thanks for the reply the
manual is what got me confused. Don

Re: Towing 4 down
 

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> <snip>
>
>> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.
>
> No. It is to allow the steering wheel to turn. If you can remove the key
> and still turn the wheel, then you get a bonus because you can lock the
> cab while you are under way -- this allows you to forget about your Jeep
> if you decide to park somewhere.
>
If you have 2 keys you can leave one key in the ignition and keep it locked.
Tomes

Re: Towing 4 down
 

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> <snip>
>
>> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.
>
> No. It is to allow the steering wheel to turn. If you can remove the key
> and still turn the wheel, then you get a bonus because you can lock the
> cab while you are under way -- this allows you to forget about your Jeep
> if you decide to park somewhere.
>
If you have 2 keys you can leave one key in the ignition and keep it locked.
Tomes

Re: Towing 4 down
 

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "nawt2smart" <nawt2smart@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> <snip>
>
>> Maybe it is to log the miles being pulled.
>
> No. It is to allow the steering wheel to turn. If you can remove the key
> and still turn the wheel, then you get a bonus because you can lock the
> cab while you are under way -- this allows you to forget about your Jeep
> if you decide to park somewhere.
>
If you have 2 keys you can leave one key in the ignition and keep it locked.
Tomes

Re: Towing 4 down
 

Ummm... I never said that I towed my Jeep, just that my steering does indeed
lock somewhere during it's travel.



> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?
>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>



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Re: Towing 4 down
 

Ummm... I never said that I towed my Jeep, just that my steering does indeed
lock somewhere during it's travel.



> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?
>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>



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Re: Towing 4 down
 

Ummm... I never said that I towed my Jeep, just that my steering does indeed
lock somewhere during it's travel.



> > My '93 ZJ can turn the steering wheel without the keys too, for half
> > to three quarters of a turn. Then it locks. Have you actually gone
> > lock-to-lock without the keys?
>
> Never flat tow a car with the key out of run. The wheels
> can lock and be ground flat (or worse, push your rear end
> out and jacknife you)
>
> I'm not aware of any vehicle under twenty years old that
> does not have a steering lock. Just turn the wheel full
> left/right then remove the key. It should lock.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>



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