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dmacintire 03-16-2006 09:40 AM

Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.


Earle Horton 03-16-2006 10:00 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Heh, I don't see a question mark in your post. Is there a question? ;^)

That's a pretty big trailer, for a vehicle which is not considered a "full
size" vehicle, with a six cylinder engine. Regearing is expensive, maybe
even more expensive than trading the vehicle in on a Tahoe or something
similar. I am thinking, that if you decide to keep the GC, then 4.11 gears
might be worth considering. You might as well wind up with something fun to
drive.

Earle

"dmacintire" <dmacintire@cuna.coop> wrote in message
news:1142520046.626467.216760@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>



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Earle Horton 03-16-2006 10:00 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Heh, I don't see a question mark in your post. Is there a question? ;^)

That's a pretty big trailer, for a vehicle which is not considered a "full
size" vehicle, with a six cylinder engine. Regearing is expensive, maybe
even more expensive than trading the vehicle in on a Tahoe or something
similar. I am thinking, that if you decide to keep the GC, then 4.11 gears
might be worth considering. You might as well wind up with something fun to
drive.

Earle

"dmacintire" <dmacintire@cuna.coop> wrote in message
news:1142520046.626467.216760@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>



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Earle Horton 03-16-2006 10:00 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Heh, I don't see a question mark in your post. Is there a question? ;^)

That's a pretty big trailer, for a vehicle which is not considered a "full
size" vehicle, with a six cylinder engine. Regearing is expensive, maybe
even more expensive than trading the vehicle in on a Tahoe or something
similar. I am thinking, that if you decide to keep the GC, then 4.11 gears
might be worth considering. You might as well wind up with something fun to
drive.

Earle

"dmacintire" <dmacintire@cuna.coop> wrote in message
news:1142520046.626467.216760@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>



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Earle Horton 03-16-2006 10:00 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Heh, I don't see a question mark in your post. Is there a question? ;^)

That's a pretty big trailer, for a vehicle which is not considered a "full
size" vehicle, with a six cylinder engine. Regearing is expensive, maybe
even more expensive than trading the vehicle in on a Tahoe or something
similar. I am thinking, that if you decide to keep the GC, then 4.11 gears
might be worth considering. You might as well wind up with something fun to
drive.

Earle

"dmacintire" <dmacintire@cuna.coop> wrote in message
news:1142520046.626467.216760@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>



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Jerry Bransford 03-16-2006 10:08 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last
model year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is
more common.

dmacintire wrote:
> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 03-16-2006 10:08 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last
model year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is
more common.

dmacintire wrote:
> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 03-16-2006 10:08 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last
model year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is
more common.

dmacintire wrote:
> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 03-16-2006 10:08 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last
model year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is
more common.

dmacintire wrote:
> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

dmacintire 03-16-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
me if I need something bigger.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
me if I need something bigger.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
me if I need something bigger.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
me if I need something bigger.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 11:43 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
me if I need something bigger.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 11:43 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
me if I need something bigger.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 11:43 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
me if I need something bigger.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 11:43 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
me if I need something bigger.


Mike Romain 03-16-2006 11:51 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
truck.

If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....

Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
GCWR.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

dmacintire wrote:
>
> Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> me if I need something bigger.


Mike Romain 03-16-2006 11:51 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
truck.

If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....

Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
GCWR.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

dmacintire wrote:
>
> Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> me if I need something bigger.


Mike Romain 03-16-2006 11:51 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
truck.

If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....

Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
GCWR.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

dmacintire wrote:
>
> Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> me if I need something bigger.


Mike Romain 03-16-2006 11:51 AM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
truck.

If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....

Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
GCWR.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

dmacintire wrote:
>
> Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> me if I need something bigger.


billy ray 03-16-2006 12:18 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
My '02 WJ also has the 3.55 gears. They are the standard ratio for non-tow
vehicles as far as I know.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:nbfSf.12546$Uc2.6389@fed1read04...
> Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last model
> year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is more common.
>
> dmacintire wrote:
>> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
>> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
>> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
>> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
>> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
>> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




billy ray 03-16-2006 12:18 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
My '02 WJ also has the 3.55 gears. They are the standard ratio for non-tow
vehicles as far as I know.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:nbfSf.12546$Uc2.6389@fed1read04...
> Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last model
> year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is more common.
>
> dmacintire wrote:
>> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
>> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
>> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
>> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
>> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
>> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




billy ray 03-16-2006 12:18 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
My '02 WJ also has the 3.55 gears. They are the standard ratio for non-tow
vehicles as far as I know.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:nbfSf.12546$Uc2.6389@fed1read04...
> Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last model
> year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is more common.
>
> dmacintire wrote:
>> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
>> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
>> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
>> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
>> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
>> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




billy ray 03-16-2006 12:18 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
My '02 WJ also has the 3.55 gears. They are the standard ratio for non-tow
vehicles as far as I know.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:nbfSf.12546$Uc2.6389@fed1read04...
> Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last model
> year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is more common.
>
> dmacintire wrote:
>> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
>> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
>> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
>> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
>> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
>> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




billy ray 03-16-2006 12:23 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
That is to say that as far as I know the 3.55 gears were standard in
vehicles not factory equipped with the towing package.

I believe it is recommended to add a transmission cooler when a tow hitch is
added.

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:c3071$44199ddf$4831b233$11365@FUSE.NET...
> My '02 WJ also has the 3.55 gears. They are the standard ratio for
> non-tow vehicles as far as I know.
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:nbfSf.12546$Uc2.6389@fed1read04...
>> Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last model
>> year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is more
>> common.
>>
>> dmacintire wrote:
>>> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
>>> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
>>> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
>>> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
>>> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
>>> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>>>

>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>




billy ray 03-16-2006 12:23 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
That is to say that as far as I know the 3.55 gears were standard in
vehicles not factory equipped with the towing package.

I believe it is recommended to add a transmission cooler when a tow hitch is
added.

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:c3071$44199ddf$4831b233$11365@FUSE.NET...
> My '02 WJ also has the 3.55 gears. They are the standard ratio for
> non-tow vehicles as far as I know.
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:nbfSf.12546$Uc2.6389@fed1read04...
>> Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last model
>> year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is more
>> common.
>>
>> dmacintire wrote:
>>> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
>>> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
>>> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
>>> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
>>> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
>>> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>>>

>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>




billy ray 03-16-2006 12:23 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
That is to say that as far as I know the 3.55 gears were standard in
vehicles not factory equipped with the towing package.

I believe it is recommended to add a transmission cooler when a tow hitch is
added.

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:c3071$44199ddf$4831b233$11365@FUSE.NET...
> My '02 WJ also has the 3.55 gears. They are the standard ratio for
> non-tow vehicles as far as I know.
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:nbfSf.12546$Uc2.6389@fed1read04...
>> Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last model
>> year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is more
>> common.
>>
>> dmacintire wrote:
>>> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
>>> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
>>> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
>>> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
>>> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
>>> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>>>

>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>




billy ray 03-16-2006 12:23 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
That is to say that as far as I know the 3.55 gears were standard in
vehicles not factory equipped with the towing package.

I believe it is recommended to add a transmission cooler when a tow hitch is
added.

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:c3071$44199ddf$4831b233$11365@FUSE.NET...
> My '02 WJ also has the 3.55 gears. They are the standard ratio for
> non-tow vehicles as far as I know.
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:nbfSf.12546$Uc2.6389@fed1read04...
>> Are you sure about that 3.55 ratio? Have you verified it? The last model
>> year I've seen a 3.55 was 1997. After that, 3.07 and 3.73 is more
>> common.
>>
>> dmacintire wrote:
>>> This GC does not have factory towing, so I have added a weight
>>> distrubution hitch with a sway bar and a HD trans cooler. I have
>>> heard that I should change the axel gear ratio from 3.55 to the
>>> optional 3.73 but have also seen post that just say the trans cooler
>>> and WD hitch. I'm planning on pulling a Jayco Feather 19h 3,400 dry
>>> weight and 4,450 loaded, with a hitch weight of 405.
>>>

>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>




Earle Horton 03-16-2006 12:39 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
How about towing a trailer, with another trailer hitched to the back of it?
Some of the things that they get away with in the States, would make your
hair stand on end. If you already have straight hair, it would curl it.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44199795.FBFB7F5B@sympatico.ca...
> Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
> is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
> door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
> truck.
>
> If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....
>
> Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
> away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
> on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
> GCWR.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> dmacintire wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> > work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> > say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> > referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> > it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> > all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> > talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> > told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> > me if I need something bigger.




Earle Horton 03-16-2006 12:39 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
How about towing a trailer, with another trailer hitched to the back of it?
Some of the things that they get away with in the States, would make your
hair stand on end. If you already have straight hair, it would curl it.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44199795.FBFB7F5B@sympatico.ca...
> Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
> is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
> door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
> truck.
>
> If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....
>
> Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
> away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
> on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
> GCWR.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> dmacintire wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> > work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> > say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> > referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> > it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> > all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> > talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> > told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> > me if I need something bigger.




Earle Horton 03-16-2006 12:39 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
How about towing a trailer, with another trailer hitched to the back of it?
Some of the things that they get away with in the States, would make your
hair stand on end. If you already have straight hair, it would curl it.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44199795.FBFB7F5B@sympatico.ca...
> Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
> is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
> door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
> truck.
>
> If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....
>
> Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
> away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
> on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
> GCWR.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> dmacintire wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> > work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> > say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> > referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> > it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> > all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> > talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> > told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> > me if I need something bigger.




Earle Horton 03-16-2006 12:39 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
How about towing a trailer, with another trailer hitched to the back of it?
Some of the things that they get away with in the States, would make your
hair stand on end. If you already have straight hair, it would curl it.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44199795.FBFB7F5B@sympatico.ca...
> Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
> is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
> door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
> truck.
>
> If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....
>
> Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
> away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
> on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
> GCWR.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> dmacintire wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> > work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> > say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> > referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> > it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> > all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> > talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> > told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> > me if I need something bigger.




Mike Romain 03-16-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
I have even seen them with a dually pickup with team markings pulled
over that was pulling a monster 'cigar' boat with the same decals. The
'big' tow truck was pulling up to take the boat away....

The cops carry these portable scales in the trunk....

I have heard and read about the non existent laws in some places or what
folks claim are non existent or non enforced.

I am the same as anyone, I will push it to a point too. The cop that
nailed me said he didn't care about what I pulled on the dirt logging
trails, but no way was I pulling that trailer through town. He let me
get a tow to the other end of town where I jumped back on the bush
roads.

The bad part is, 'he was right'! That sucker tried to walk away with my
truck coming down a ravine wall in the BC Rockies with a 1 lane bridge
at the bottom.... That was hairy. The only way to hold steering was to
have it in neutral with the emergency brake on and literally inch it
down. Took a couple hours for a 1/4 mile. Ohh to have had a 4x4 with a
winch.... It was drives like that that made us want a 'real' 4x4 so my
wife bought the CJ7 to replace the truck with... :-)

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> How about towing a trailer, with another trailer hitched to the back of it?
> Some of the things that they get away with in the States, would make your
> hair stand on end. If you already have straight hair, it would curl it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44199795.FBFB7F5B@sympatico.ca...
> > Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
> > is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
> > door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
> > truck.
> >
> > If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....
> >
> > Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
> > away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
> > on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
> > GCWR.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > dmacintire wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> > > work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> > > say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> > > referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> > > it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> > > all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> > > talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> > > told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> > > me if I need something bigger.


Mike Romain 03-16-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
I have even seen them with a dually pickup with team markings pulled
over that was pulling a monster 'cigar' boat with the same decals. The
'big' tow truck was pulling up to take the boat away....

The cops carry these portable scales in the trunk....

I have heard and read about the non existent laws in some places or what
folks claim are non existent or non enforced.

I am the same as anyone, I will push it to a point too. The cop that
nailed me said he didn't care about what I pulled on the dirt logging
trails, but no way was I pulling that trailer through town. He let me
get a tow to the other end of town where I jumped back on the bush
roads.

The bad part is, 'he was right'! That sucker tried to walk away with my
truck coming down a ravine wall in the BC Rockies with a 1 lane bridge
at the bottom.... That was hairy. The only way to hold steering was to
have it in neutral with the emergency brake on and literally inch it
down. Took a couple hours for a 1/4 mile. Ohh to have had a 4x4 with a
winch.... It was drives like that that made us want a 'real' 4x4 so my
wife bought the CJ7 to replace the truck with... :-)

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> How about towing a trailer, with another trailer hitched to the back of it?
> Some of the things that they get away with in the States, would make your
> hair stand on end. If you already have straight hair, it would curl it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44199795.FBFB7F5B@sympatico.ca...
> > Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
> > is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
> > door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
> > truck.
> >
> > If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....
> >
> > Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
> > away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
> > on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
> > GCWR.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > dmacintire wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> > > work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> > > say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> > > referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> > > it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> > > all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> > > talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> > > told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> > > me if I need something bigger.


Mike Romain 03-16-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
I have even seen them with a dually pickup with team markings pulled
over that was pulling a monster 'cigar' boat with the same decals. The
'big' tow truck was pulling up to take the boat away....

The cops carry these portable scales in the trunk....

I have heard and read about the non existent laws in some places or what
folks claim are non existent or non enforced.

I am the same as anyone, I will push it to a point too. The cop that
nailed me said he didn't care about what I pulled on the dirt logging
trails, but no way was I pulling that trailer through town. He let me
get a tow to the other end of town where I jumped back on the bush
roads.

The bad part is, 'he was right'! That sucker tried to walk away with my
truck coming down a ravine wall in the BC Rockies with a 1 lane bridge
at the bottom.... That was hairy. The only way to hold steering was to
have it in neutral with the emergency brake on and literally inch it
down. Took a couple hours for a 1/4 mile. Ohh to have had a 4x4 with a
winch.... It was drives like that that made us want a 'real' 4x4 so my
wife bought the CJ7 to replace the truck with... :-)

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> How about towing a trailer, with another trailer hitched to the back of it?
> Some of the things that they get away with in the States, would make your
> hair stand on end. If you already have straight hair, it would curl it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44199795.FBFB7F5B@sympatico.ca...
> > Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
> > is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
> > door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
> > truck.
> >
> > If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....
> >
> > Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
> > away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
> > on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
> > GCWR.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > dmacintire wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> > > work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> > > say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> > > referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> > > it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> > > all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> > > talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> > > told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> > > me if I need something bigger.


Mike Romain 03-16-2006 02:07 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
I have even seen them with a dually pickup with team markings pulled
over that was pulling a monster 'cigar' boat with the same decals. The
'big' tow truck was pulling up to take the boat away....

The cops carry these portable scales in the trunk....

I have heard and read about the non existent laws in some places or what
folks claim are non existent or non enforced.

I am the same as anyone, I will push it to a point too. The cop that
nailed me said he didn't care about what I pulled on the dirt logging
trails, but no way was I pulling that trailer through town. He let me
get a tow to the other end of town where I jumped back on the bush
roads.

The bad part is, 'he was right'! That sucker tried to walk away with my
truck coming down a ravine wall in the BC Rockies with a 1 lane bridge
at the bottom.... That was hairy. The only way to hold steering was to
have it in neutral with the emergency brake on and literally inch it
down. Took a couple hours for a 1/4 mile. Ohh to have had a 4x4 with a
winch.... It was drives like that that made us want a 'real' 4x4 so my
wife bought the CJ7 to replace the truck with... :-)

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> How about towing a trailer, with another trailer hitched to the back of it?
> Some of the things that they get away with in the States, would make your
> hair stand on end. If you already have straight hair, it would curl it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44199795.FBFB7F5B@sympatico.ca...
> > Here in Canada the cops have this nasty tendency to know what the GVWR
> > is on vehicles. They will even point out the nice little sticker on the
> > door frame for you as they are writing up tickets and calling the tow
> > truck.
> >
> > If your maximum allowed is 5000 lb, believe me they know this....
> >
> > Been there, had to drop the empty bunk bed trailer and have it towed
> > away. 'I' don't believe the gutted trailer was over, but the dual axles
> > on it implied it was capable and designed to be over my Chevy 1/2 ton's
> > GCWR.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > dmacintire wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry for no question mark, Looking for verification that this should
> > > work, I'm a little concerned, do to postings I have read. Some people
> > > say no problem and other say no way. Factory spec say 5000lb but
> > > referance the gear ratio of 3.73. I have not checked my gear ratio so
> > > it may be 3.07, I got the 3.55 off the web. I got a warm a fussy from
> > > all the sales reps I talked to at the RV Show, but that could just be
> > > talk to get the sale. Last year I even talk to a hitch guy and was
> > > told it was ok. Who do you trust? I guess some small trips with tell
> > > me if I need something bigger.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 03:02 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Does not answer my towing question. But fun to read.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 03:02 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Does not answer my towing question. But fun to read.


dmacintire 03-16-2006 03:02 PM

Re: Towing with a 2001 GC 4.0 Inline 6
 
Does not answer my towing question. But fun to read.



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