Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
05-18-2004, 04:28 PM
#11
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
Chains are fine for towing. They actually work better than a strap for
that.
It's extracting when things get interesting.
For extractions you want something in the neighborhood of 3" wide and
20' or 30' long. These are '******' straps and have a built in elastic
action.
Lots of times a straight pull won't get folks unstuck so you need some
momentum. The strap comes up soft as it gets tight. Chains come up
hard and break things like frames or themselves. Chain links can go
ballistic, literally.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
that.
It's extracting when things get interesting.
For extractions you want something in the neighborhood of 3" wide and
20' or 30' long. These are '******' straps and have a built in elastic
action.
Lots of times a straight pull won't get folks unstuck so you need some
momentum. The strap comes up soft as it gets tight. Chains come up
hard and break things like frames or themselves. Chain links can go
ballistic, literally.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
05-18-2004, 04:28 PM
#12
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
Chains are fine for towing. They actually work better than a strap for
that.
It's extracting when things get interesting.
For extractions you want something in the neighborhood of 3" wide and
20' or 30' long. These are '******' straps and have a built in elastic
action.
Lots of times a straight pull won't get folks unstuck so you need some
momentum. The strap comes up soft as it gets tight. Chains come up
hard and break things like frames or themselves. Chain links can go
ballistic, literally.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
that.
It's extracting when things get interesting.
For extractions you want something in the neighborhood of 3" wide and
20' or 30' long. These are '******' straps and have a built in elastic
action.
Lots of times a straight pull won't get folks unstuck so you need some
momentum. The strap comes up soft as it gets tight. Chains come up
hard and break things like frames or themselves. Chain links can go
ballistic, literally.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
05-18-2004, 04:28 PM
#13
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
Chains are fine for towing. They actually work better than a strap for
that.
It's extracting when things get interesting.
For extractions you want something in the neighborhood of 3" wide and
20' or 30' long. These are '******' straps and have a built in elastic
action.
Lots of times a straight pull won't get folks unstuck so you need some
momentum. The strap comes up soft as it gets tight. Chains come up
hard and break things like frames or themselves. Chain links can go
ballistic, literally.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
that.
It's extracting when things get interesting.
For extractions you want something in the neighborhood of 3" wide and
20' or 30' long. These are '******' straps and have a built in elastic
action.
Lots of times a straight pull won't get folks unstuck so you need some
momentum. The strap comes up soft as it gets tight. Chains come up
hard and break things like frames or themselves. Chain links can go
ballistic, literally.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
05-18-2004, 05:16 PM
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:58:05 GMT, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "JimG"
<jimg@2muchspam.com>:
>I think it's the recoil thing plus the tree saver thing.
Chains, unlike cables, don't usually recoil. And IIRC, the
classic "******-strap" *depends* on recoil. If you're
worried about the tree, put a short section of heavy hose
(firehose works well) on the chain where it goes around the
tree.
--
Bob C.
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rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "JimG"
<jimg@2muchspam.com>:
>I think it's the recoil thing plus the tree saver thing.
Chains, unlike cables, don't usually recoil. And IIRC, the
classic "******-strap" *depends* on recoil. If you're
worried about the tree, put a short section of heavy hose
(firehose works well) on the chain where it goes around the
tree.
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
05-18-2004, 05:16 PM
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:58:05 GMT, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "JimG"
<jimg@2muchspam.com>:
>I think it's the recoil thing plus the tree saver thing.
Chains, unlike cables, don't usually recoil. And IIRC, the
classic "******-strap" *depends* on recoil. If you're
worried about the tree, put a short section of heavy hose
(firehose works well) on the chain where it goes around the
tree.
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "JimG"
<jimg@2muchspam.com>:
>I think it's the recoil thing plus the tree saver thing.
Chains, unlike cables, don't usually recoil. And IIRC, the
classic "******-strap" *depends* on recoil. If you're
worried about the tree, put a short section of heavy hose
(firehose works well) on the chain where it goes around the
tree.
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
05-18-2004, 05:16 PM
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:58:05 GMT, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "JimG"
<jimg@2muchspam.com>:
>I think it's the recoil thing plus the tree saver thing.
Chains, unlike cables, don't usually recoil. And IIRC, the
classic "******-strap" *depends* on recoil. If you're
worried about the tree, put a short section of heavy hose
(firehose works well) on the chain where it goes around the
tree.
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "JimG"
<jimg@2muchspam.com>:
>I think it's the recoil thing plus the tree saver thing.
Chains, unlike cables, don't usually recoil. And IIRC, the
classic "******-strap" *depends* on recoil. If you're
worried about the tree, put a short section of heavy hose
(firehose works well) on the chain where it goes around the
tree.
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
05-18-2004, 05:16 PM
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:58:05 GMT, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "JimG"
<jimg@2muchspam.com>:
>I think it's the recoil thing plus the tree saver thing.
Chains, unlike cables, don't usually recoil. And IIRC, the
classic "******-strap" *depends* on recoil. If you're
worried about the tree, put a short section of heavy hose
(firehose works well) on the chain where it goes around the
tree.
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by "JimG"
<jimg@2muchspam.com>:
>I think it's the recoil thing plus the tree saver thing.
Chains, unlike cables, don't usually recoil. And IIRC, the
classic "******-strap" *depends* on recoil. If you're
worried about the tree, put a short section of heavy hose
(firehose works well) on the chain where it goes around the
tree.
--
Bob C.
Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
05-18-2004, 09:01 PM
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
A chain store a shitload of energy, and it has loads of mass if that energy
is suddenly released. A nylon strap also stores energy, but it has virtually
no mass so there is very little danger to bystanders is the energy is
released without prior warning.
A chain can be useful where a strap might be cut, but a strap is the first
choice.
A strap is also much lighter than a chain of equal length.
A chain is preferred over those straps with hooks on the end.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2gv4o3F75p8lU1@uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned
to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
is suddenly released. A nylon strap also stores energy, but it has virtually
no mass so there is very little danger to bystanders is the energy is
released without prior warning.
A chain can be useful where a strap might be cut, but a strap is the first
choice.
A strap is also much lighter than a chain of equal length.
A chain is preferred over those straps with hooks on the end.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2gv4o3F75p8lU1@uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned
to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
05-18-2004, 09:01 PM
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
A chain store a shitload of energy, and it has loads of mass if that energy
is suddenly released. A nylon strap also stores energy, but it has virtually
no mass so there is very little danger to bystanders is the energy is
released without prior warning.
A chain can be useful where a strap might be cut, but a strap is the first
choice.
A strap is also much lighter than a chain of equal length.
A chain is preferred over those straps with hooks on the end.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2gv4o3F75p8lU1@uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned
to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
is suddenly released. A nylon strap also stores energy, but it has virtually
no mass so there is very little danger to bystanders is the energy is
released without prior warning.
A chain can be useful where a strap might be cut, but a strap is the first
choice.
A strap is also much lighter than a chain of equal length.
A chain is preferred over those straps with hooks on the end.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2gv4o3F75p8lU1@uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned
to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
05-18-2004, 09:01 PM
#20
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Re: Tow Strap vs Tow Chains
A chain store a shitload of energy, and it has loads of mass if that energy
is suddenly released. A nylon strap also stores energy, but it has virtually
no mass so there is very little danger to bystanders is the energy is
released without prior warning.
A chain can be useful where a strap might be cut, but a strap is the first
choice.
A strap is also much lighter than a chain of equal length.
A chain is preferred over those straps with hooks on the end.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2gv4o3F75p8lU1@uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned
to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
is suddenly released. A nylon strap also stores energy, but it has virtually
no mass so there is very little danger to bystanders is the energy is
released without prior warning.
A chain can be useful where a strap might be cut, but a strap is the first
choice.
A strap is also much lighter than a chain of equal length.
A chain is preferred over those straps with hooks on the end.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2gv4o3F75p8lU1@uni-berlin.de...
> A while back I picked up some nice chains at a yard sale and had planned
to
> used them if needed for towing. Then I noticed on some of the jeep clubs
> sites they specify tow straps, not chains.
>
> Why is that? Why are tow straps better? Recoil damage if it brakes?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
