"TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
05-19-2004, 08:21 PM
#21
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
You probably just need a good tune-up.
Nick
"bobbyg2004" <bobbyg@sisna.com> wrote in message
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> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
>
Nick
"bobbyg2004" <bobbyg@sisna.com> wrote in message
news:609409857abad644913607ba4ce3c030@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
>
05-19-2004, 08:38 PM
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
bobbyg2004 did pass the time by typing:
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
The "TORNADO" is a piece of garbage and provides no increase
at all. I'll say that without fear or lawsuit because it's been
checked on a engine dyno and as predicted didn't do a dang thing.
Watch the infomercial closely. I love the air spinny propeller thing.
Watch as the scammer moves his hand over the hole and for a second the
propeller spins. Then when he puts the tornado up there it spins like mad.
Oh.. must be flowing better..
Nope.
The little propeller down in that tube is bent so it will not rotate at all
unless air comes at it from the side.
The other infomercial shows a coupler between two jugs swirling the water
so it flows "more freely". Again pure sideshow. Try it yourself with
an empty soda bottle. fill it up and turn it over. Drains slow as air
gulps back in doesn't it? Now swirl it and see how fast it pours out.
Why? Because you created a passage for air to flow in and replace the
water that flows out. Max flow is obtained the same way one shotguns a
beer. Open up the bottom and let the air in. :)
Now on to the air spacers with cute little grooves cut into them.
There are two schools on this and both are correct.
Hemholtz tuning. That has to do with the air mass held in the intake
rail and the length of runners. The goal is to have the next air pulse
reach the intake valve just as it opens. That essentially lowers the
resistance of the intake rail to zero and does improve power but only
across a very narrow RPM (compare the 4.0 intake runners between 93-96
and 97-99 and you will see equidistant tuned intakes. (a good mod if you
don't mind working metal a bit)
Second school is they change the location of the throttle body, essentially
changing the geometry of your fuel link. The end result is your TB is opened
much earlier in the pedal press and you think it's giving you more boost.
Same boost can be obtained by nailing a 1/2" block of wood to your foot.
--
DougW
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
The "TORNADO" is a piece of garbage and provides no increase
at all. I'll say that without fear or lawsuit because it's been
checked on a engine dyno and as predicted didn't do a dang thing.
Watch the infomercial closely. I love the air spinny propeller thing.
Watch as the scammer moves his hand over the hole and for a second the
propeller spins. Then when he puts the tornado up there it spins like mad.
Oh.. must be flowing better..
Nope.
The little propeller down in that tube is bent so it will not rotate at all
unless air comes at it from the side.
The other infomercial shows a coupler between two jugs swirling the water
so it flows "more freely". Again pure sideshow. Try it yourself with
an empty soda bottle. fill it up and turn it over. Drains slow as air
gulps back in doesn't it? Now swirl it and see how fast it pours out.
Why? Because you created a passage for air to flow in and replace the
water that flows out. Max flow is obtained the same way one shotguns a
beer. Open up the bottom and let the air in. :)
Now on to the air spacers with cute little grooves cut into them.
There are two schools on this and both are correct.
Hemholtz tuning. That has to do with the air mass held in the intake
rail and the length of runners. The goal is to have the next air pulse
reach the intake valve just as it opens. That essentially lowers the
resistance of the intake rail to zero and does improve power but only
across a very narrow RPM (compare the 4.0 intake runners between 93-96
and 97-99 and you will see equidistant tuned intakes. (a good mod if you
don't mind working metal a bit)
Second school is they change the location of the throttle body, essentially
changing the geometry of your fuel link. The end result is your TB is opened
much earlier in the pedal press and you think it's giving you more boost.
Same boost can be obtained by nailing a 1/2" block of wood to your foot.
--
DougW
05-19-2004, 08:38 PM
#23
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
bobbyg2004 did pass the time by typing:
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
The "TORNADO" is a piece of garbage and provides no increase
at all. I'll say that without fear or lawsuit because it's been
checked on a engine dyno and as predicted didn't do a dang thing.
Watch the infomercial closely. I love the air spinny propeller thing.
Watch as the scammer moves his hand over the hole and for a second the
propeller spins. Then when he puts the tornado up there it spins like mad.
Oh.. must be flowing better..
Nope.
The little propeller down in that tube is bent so it will not rotate at all
unless air comes at it from the side.
The other infomercial shows a coupler between two jugs swirling the water
so it flows "more freely". Again pure sideshow. Try it yourself with
an empty soda bottle. fill it up and turn it over. Drains slow as air
gulps back in doesn't it? Now swirl it and see how fast it pours out.
Why? Because you created a passage for air to flow in and replace the
water that flows out. Max flow is obtained the same way one shotguns a
beer. Open up the bottom and let the air in. :)
Now on to the air spacers with cute little grooves cut into them.
There are two schools on this and both are correct.
Hemholtz tuning. That has to do with the air mass held in the intake
rail and the length of runners. The goal is to have the next air pulse
reach the intake valve just as it opens. That essentially lowers the
resistance of the intake rail to zero and does improve power but only
across a very narrow RPM (compare the 4.0 intake runners between 93-96
and 97-99 and you will see equidistant tuned intakes. (a good mod if you
don't mind working metal a bit)
Second school is they change the location of the throttle body, essentially
changing the geometry of your fuel link. The end result is your TB is opened
much earlier in the pedal press and you think it's giving you more boost.
Same boost can be obtained by nailing a 1/2" block of wood to your foot.
--
DougW
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
The "TORNADO" is a piece of garbage and provides no increase
at all. I'll say that without fear or lawsuit because it's been
checked on a engine dyno and as predicted didn't do a dang thing.
Watch the infomercial closely. I love the air spinny propeller thing.
Watch as the scammer moves his hand over the hole and for a second the
propeller spins. Then when he puts the tornado up there it spins like mad.
Oh.. must be flowing better..
Nope.
The little propeller down in that tube is bent so it will not rotate at all
unless air comes at it from the side.
The other infomercial shows a coupler between two jugs swirling the water
so it flows "more freely". Again pure sideshow. Try it yourself with
an empty soda bottle. fill it up and turn it over. Drains slow as air
gulps back in doesn't it? Now swirl it and see how fast it pours out.
Why? Because you created a passage for air to flow in and replace the
water that flows out. Max flow is obtained the same way one shotguns a
beer. Open up the bottom and let the air in. :)
Now on to the air spacers with cute little grooves cut into them.
There are two schools on this and both are correct.
Hemholtz tuning. That has to do with the air mass held in the intake
rail and the length of runners. The goal is to have the next air pulse
reach the intake valve just as it opens. That essentially lowers the
resistance of the intake rail to zero and does improve power but only
across a very narrow RPM (compare the 4.0 intake runners between 93-96
and 97-99 and you will see equidistant tuned intakes. (a good mod if you
don't mind working metal a bit)
Second school is they change the location of the throttle body, essentially
changing the geometry of your fuel link. The end result is your TB is opened
much earlier in the pedal press and you think it's giving you more boost.
Same boost can be obtained by nailing a 1/2" block of wood to your foot.
--
DougW
05-19-2004, 08:38 PM
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
bobbyg2004 did pass the time by typing:
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
The "TORNADO" is a piece of garbage and provides no increase
at all. I'll say that without fear or lawsuit because it's been
checked on a engine dyno and as predicted didn't do a dang thing.
Watch the infomercial closely. I love the air spinny propeller thing.
Watch as the scammer moves his hand over the hole and for a second the
propeller spins. Then when he puts the tornado up there it spins like mad.
Oh.. must be flowing better..
Nope.
The little propeller down in that tube is bent so it will not rotate at all
unless air comes at it from the side.
The other infomercial shows a coupler between two jugs swirling the water
so it flows "more freely". Again pure sideshow. Try it yourself with
an empty soda bottle. fill it up and turn it over. Drains slow as air
gulps back in doesn't it? Now swirl it and see how fast it pours out.
Why? Because you created a passage for air to flow in and replace the
water that flows out. Max flow is obtained the same way one shotguns a
beer. Open up the bottom and let the air in. :)
Now on to the air spacers with cute little grooves cut into them.
There are two schools on this and both are correct.
Hemholtz tuning. That has to do with the air mass held in the intake
rail and the length of runners. The goal is to have the next air pulse
reach the intake valve just as it opens. That essentially lowers the
resistance of the intake rail to zero and does improve power but only
across a very narrow RPM (compare the 4.0 intake runners between 93-96
and 97-99 and you will see equidistant tuned intakes. (a good mod if you
don't mind working metal a bit)
Second school is they change the location of the throttle body, essentially
changing the geometry of your fuel link. The end result is your TB is opened
much earlier in the pedal press and you think it's giving you more boost.
Same boost can be obtained by nailing a 1/2" block of wood to your foot.
--
DougW
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
The "TORNADO" is a piece of garbage and provides no increase
at all. I'll say that without fear or lawsuit because it's been
checked on a engine dyno and as predicted didn't do a dang thing.
Watch the infomercial closely. I love the air spinny propeller thing.
Watch as the scammer moves his hand over the hole and for a second the
propeller spins. Then when he puts the tornado up there it spins like mad.
Oh.. must be flowing better..
Nope.
The little propeller down in that tube is bent so it will not rotate at all
unless air comes at it from the side.
The other infomercial shows a coupler between two jugs swirling the water
so it flows "more freely". Again pure sideshow. Try it yourself with
an empty soda bottle. fill it up and turn it over. Drains slow as air
gulps back in doesn't it? Now swirl it and see how fast it pours out.
Why? Because you created a passage for air to flow in and replace the
water that flows out. Max flow is obtained the same way one shotguns a
beer. Open up the bottom and let the air in. :)
Now on to the air spacers with cute little grooves cut into them.
There are two schools on this and both are correct.
Hemholtz tuning. That has to do with the air mass held in the intake
rail and the length of runners. The goal is to have the next air pulse
reach the intake valve just as it opens. That essentially lowers the
resistance of the intake rail to zero and does improve power but only
across a very narrow RPM (compare the 4.0 intake runners between 93-96
and 97-99 and you will see equidistant tuned intakes. (a good mod if you
don't mind working metal a bit)
Second school is they change the location of the throttle body, essentially
changing the geometry of your fuel link. The end result is your TB is opened
much earlier in the pedal press and you think it's giving you more boost.
Same boost can be obtained by nailing a 1/2" block of wood to your foot.
--
DougW
05-19-2004, 08:38 PM
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
bobbyg2004 did pass the time by typing:
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
The "TORNADO" is a piece of garbage and provides no increase
at all. I'll say that without fear or lawsuit because it's been
checked on a engine dyno and as predicted didn't do a dang thing.
Watch the infomercial closely. I love the air spinny propeller thing.
Watch as the scammer moves his hand over the hole and for a second the
propeller spins. Then when he puts the tornado up there it spins like mad.
Oh.. must be flowing better..
Nope.
The little propeller down in that tube is bent so it will not rotate at all
unless air comes at it from the side.
The other infomercial shows a coupler between two jugs swirling the water
so it flows "more freely". Again pure sideshow. Try it yourself with
an empty soda bottle. fill it up and turn it over. Drains slow as air
gulps back in doesn't it? Now swirl it and see how fast it pours out.
Why? Because you created a passage for air to flow in and replace the
water that flows out. Max flow is obtained the same way one shotguns a
beer. Open up the bottom and let the air in. :)
Now on to the air spacers with cute little grooves cut into them.
There are two schools on this and both are correct.
Hemholtz tuning. That has to do with the air mass held in the intake
rail and the length of runners. The goal is to have the next air pulse
reach the intake valve just as it opens. That essentially lowers the
resistance of the intake rail to zero and does improve power but only
across a very narrow RPM (compare the 4.0 intake runners between 93-96
and 97-99 and you will see equidistant tuned intakes. (a good mod if you
don't mind working metal a bit)
Second school is they change the location of the throttle body, essentially
changing the geometry of your fuel link. The end result is your TB is opened
much earlier in the pedal press and you think it's giving you more boost.
Same boost can be obtained by nailing a 1/2" block of wood to your foot.
--
DougW
> has anyone tried the "TORNADO" thing that goes in the intake hose and
> "swirls the air for better fuel milage and more horsepower" i want to try
> it, since i'm getting about 13 mpg, and gas prices are supposed to get up
> to $3.25 by the end of summer.
The "TORNADO" is a piece of garbage and provides no increase
at all. I'll say that without fear or lawsuit because it's been
checked on a engine dyno and as predicted didn't do a dang thing.
Watch the infomercial closely. I love the air spinny propeller thing.
Watch as the scammer moves his hand over the hole and for a second the
propeller spins. Then when he puts the tornado up there it spins like mad.
Oh.. must be flowing better..
Nope.
The little propeller down in that tube is bent so it will not rotate at all
unless air comes at it from the side.
The other infomercial shows a coupler between two jugs swirling the water
so it flows "more freely". Again pure sideshow. Try it yourself with
an empty soda bottle. fill it up and turn it over. Drains slow as air
gulps back in doesn't it? Now swirl it and see how fast it pours out.
Why? Because you created a passage for air to flow in and replace the
water that flows out. Max flow is obtained the same way one shotguns a
beer. Open up the bottom and let the air in. :)
Now on to the air spacers with cute little grooves cut into them.
There are two schools on this and both are correct.
Hemholtz tuning. That has to do with the air mass held in the intake
rail and the length of runners. The goal is to have the next air pulse
reach the intake valve just as it opens. That essentially lowers the
resistance of the intake rail to zero and does improve power but only
across a very narrow RPM (compare the 4.0 intake runners between 93-96
and 97-99 and you will see equidistant tuned intakes. (a good mod if you
don't mind working metal a bit)
Second school is they change the location of the throttle body, essentially
changing the geometry of your fuel link. The end result is your TB is opened
much earlier in the pedal press and you think it's giving you more boost.
Same boost can be obtained by nailing a 1/2" block of wood to your foot.
--
DougW
05-19-2004, 08:42 PM
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
You will spend $80 on the tornado, after about 7 years it will have paid for
itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
within 5 years.
Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
$1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
within 5 years.
Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
$1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
05-19-2004, 08:42 PM
#27
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
You will spend $80 on the tornado, after about 7 years it will have paid for
itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
within 5 years.
Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
$1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
within 5 years.
Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
$1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
05-19-2004, 08:42 PM
#28
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
You will spend $80 on the tornado, after about 7 years it will have paid for
itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
within 5 years.
Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
$1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
within 5 years.
Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
$1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
05-19-2004, 08:42 PM
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
You will spend $80 on the tornado, after about 7 years it will have paid for
itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
within 5 years.
Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
$1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
within 5 years.
Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
$1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
05-19-2004, 09:23 PM
#30
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Re: "TORNADO" in the air intake "to try or not to try"
You are implying the piece of junk actually 'does something'!!!
LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Mark12211 wrote:
>
> You will spend $80 on the tornado, after about 7 years it will have paid for
> itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
>
> So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
> within 5 years.
>
> Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
> $1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.
LOL!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Mark12211 wrote:
>
> You will spend $80 on the tornado, after about 7 years it will have paid for
> itself in gas savings. How long do plan to keep your Jeep?
>
> So far there is no gadget that saves you enough gas that it pays for itself
> within 5 years.
>
> Until then, just drive and have fun. If you want to save money on gas, spend
> $1500 and get a used Chevy Metro.