from TJ to ZJ?
11-10-2005, 09:23 AM
#11
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
There are people where I live, who can fix the open top thing too. One tour
company has a bunch of Suburbans with canvas roofs with snaps...
Earle
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ..the only difference is the wheel
> base...it has the exact same suspension... as long as you don't mind
missing
> your open top Jeep during the summer you will love the ZJ.
>
> Jeff
> '95 ZJ & '03 TJ
>
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:7e800$437175c9$4831b233$7253@FUSE.NET...
> > There is a price to pay for the additional wheelbase as far as
off-roading
> > is concerned but in my opinion the trade off is well worth while. In
> > addition to improving your daily drive immensely you will increase your
> > off-road vehicle's comfort, cargo capacity, and, if need arises, you can
> > sleep comfortably in the back during torrential rains or weather
extremes.
> >
> > A stock ZJ with good tires is more capable than you might think. If new
> > tires are in the near future you might consider a mild 'budget boost" A
> > 2" coil spacer budget boost + 31" tires will give you quite a bit more
> > ground clearance to the body (up to 3.5 inches if you have 215-75x 15
> > tires now)
> >
> > Coil spacer lifts of 2 inches or less can be done without the need of
> > replacing your stock shock absorbers.
> >
> > Complete kits with polyurethane spacers (2 pair) generally retail from
> > $100-$250
> >
> > For additional information see:
> > http://www.4lo.com/94jeep/2inch/boost.html
> > http://www.jeepzj.com/robert/JeepZJ.htm
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/tera/boost.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> > .
> > "mokordo" <mokordo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ogp2n152uqqmfgqi98kg9dsm9r9hg3b4pn@4ax.com...
> >> My daily driver is a TJ which I ocasionally use for off road
> >> adventures - nothing really extreme, I carry a Black Rat recovery
> >> winch but I've never had to use it (and hope that I never have to use
> >> it). I have been thinking about trading for a ZJ in order to have a
> >> more quiet and comfortable drive on my daily drive but I would hate to
> >> give up off road capability. Would I be really giving up a lot of
> >> capabilities with this switch?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
company has a bunch of Suburbans with canvas roofs with snaps...
Earle
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ..the only difference is the wheel
> base...it has the exact same suspension... as long as you don't mind
missing
> your open top Jeep during the summer you will love the ZJ.
>
> Jeff
> '95 ZJ & '03 TJ
>
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:7e800$437175c9$4831b233$7253@FUSE.NET...
> > There is a price to pay for the additional wheelbase as far as
off-roading
> > is concerned but in my opinion the trade off is well worth while. In
> > addition to improving your daily drive immensely you will increase your
> > off-road vehicle's comfort, cargo capacity, and, if need arises, you can
> > sleep comfortably in the back during torrential rains or weather
extremes.
> >
> > A stock ZJ with good tires is more capable than you might think. If new
> > tires are in the near future you might consider a mild 'budget boost" A
> > 2" coil spacer budget boost + 31" tires will give you quite a bit more
> > ground clearance to the body (up to 3.5 inches if you have 215-75x 15
> > tires now)
> >
> > Coil spacer lifts of 2 inches or less can be done without the need of
> > replacing your stock shock absorbers.
> >
> > Complete kits with polyurethane spacers (2 pair) generally retail from
> > $100-$250
> >
> > For additional information see:
> > http://www.4lo.com/94jeep/2inch/boost.html
> > http://www.jeepzj.com/robert/JeepZJ.htm
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/tera/boost.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> > .
> > "mokordo" <mokordo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ogp2n152uqqmfgqi98kg9dsm9r9hg3b4pn@4ax.com...
> >> My daily driver is a TJ which I ocasionally use for off road
> >> adventures - nothing really extreme, I carry a Black Rat recovery
> >> winch but I've never had to use it (and hope that I never have to use
> >> it). I have been thinking about trading for a ZJ in order to have a
> >> more quiet and comfortable drive on my daily drive but I would hate to
> >> give up off road capability. Would I be really giving up a lot of
> >> capabilities with this switch?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
11-10-2005, 09:23 AM
#12
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
There are people where I live, who can fix the open top thing too. One tour
company has a bunch of Suburbans with canvas roofs with snaps...
Earle
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ..the only difference is the wheel
> base...it has the exact same suspension... as long as you don't mind
missing
> your open top Jeep during the summer you will love the ZJ.
>
> Jeff
> '95 ZJ & '03 TJ
>
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:7e800$437175c9$4831b233$7253@FUSE.NET...
> > There is a price to pay for the additional wheelbase as far as
off-roading
> > is concerned but in my opinion the trade off is well worth while. In
> > addition to improving your daily drive immensely you will increase your
> > off-road vehicle's comfort, cargo capacity, and, if need arises, you can
> > sleep comfortably in the back during torrential rains or weather
extremes.
> >
> > A stock ZJ with good tires is more capable than you might think. If new
> > tires are in the near future you might consider a mild 'budget boost" A
> > 2" coil spacer budget boost + 31" tires will give you quite a bit more
> > ground clearance to the body (up to 3.5 inches if you have 215-75x 15
> > tires now)
> >
> > Coil spacer lifts of 2 inches or less can be done without the need of
> > replacing your stock shock absorbers.
> >
> > Complete kits with polyurethane spacers (2 pair) generally retail from
> > $100-$250
> >
> > For additional information see:
> > http://www.4lo.com/94jeep/2inch/boost.html
> > http://www.jeepzj.com/robert/JeepZJ.htm
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/tera/boost.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> > .
> > "mokordo" <mokordo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ogp2n152uqqmfgqi98kg9dsm9r9hg3b4pn@4ax.com...
> >> My daily driver is a TJ which I ocasionally use for off road
> >> adventures - nothing really extreme, I carry a Black Rat recovery
> >> winch but I've never had to use it (and hope that I never have to use
> >> it). I have been thinking about trading for a ZJ in order to have a
> >> more quiet and comfortable drive on my daily drive but I would hate to
> >> give up off road capability. Would I be really giving up a lot of
> >> capabilities with this switch?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
company has a bunch of Suburbans with canvas roofs with snaps...
Earle
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ..the only difference is the wheel
> base...it has the exact same suspension... as long as you don't mind
missing
> your open top Jeep during the summer you will love the ZJ.
>
> Jeff
> '95 ZJ & '03 TJ
>
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:7e800$437175c9$4831b233$7253@FUSE.NET...
> > There is a price to pay for the additional wheelbase as far as
off-roading
> > is concerned but in my opinion the trade off is well worth while. In
> > addition to improving your daily drive immensely you will increase your
> > off-road vehicle's comfort, cargo capacity, and, if need arises, you can
> > sleep comfortably in the back during torrential rains or weather
extremes.
> >
> > A stock ZJ with good tires is more capable than you might think. If new
> > tires are in the near future you might consider a mild 'budget boost" A
> > 2" coil spacer budget boost + 31" tires will give you quite a bit more
> > ground clearance to the body (up to 3.5 inches if you have 215-75x 15
> > tires now)
> >
> > Coil spacer lifts of 2 inches or less can be done without the need of
> > replacing your stock shock absorbers.
> >
> > Complete kits with polyurethane spacers (2 pair) generally retail from
> > $100-$250
> >
> > For additional information see:
> > http://www.4lo.com/94jeep/2inch/boost.html
> > http://www.jeepzj.com/robert/JeepZJ.htm
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/tera/boost.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> > .
> > "mokordo" <mokordo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ogp2n152uqqmfgqi98kg9dsm9r9hg3b4pn@4ax.com...
> >> My daily driver is a TJ which I ocasionally use for off road
> >> adventures - nothing really extreme, I carry a Black Rat recovery
> >> winch but I've never had to use it (and hope that I never have to use
> >> it). I have been thinking about trading for a ZJ in order to have a
> >> more quiet and comfortable drive on my daily drive but I would hate to
> >> give up off road capability. Would I be really giving up a lot of
> >> capabilities with this switch?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
11-10-2005, 09:23 AM
#13
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
There are people where I live, who can fix the open top thing too. One tour
company has a bunch of Suburbans with canvas roofs with snaps...
Earle
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ..the only difference is the wheel
> base...it has the exact same suspension... as long as you don't mind
missing
> your open top Jeep during the summer you will love the ZJ.
>
> Jeff
> '95 ZJ & '03 TJ
>
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:7e800$437175c9$4831b233$7253@FUSE.NET...
> > There is a price to pay for the additional wheelbase as far as
off-roading
> > is concerned but in my opinion the trade off is well worth while. In
> > addition to improving your daily drive immensely you will increase your
> > off-road vehicle's comfort, cargo capacity, and, if need arises, you can
> > sleep comfortably in the back during torrential rains or weather
extremes.
> >
> > A stock ZJ with good tires is more capable than you might think. If new
> > tires are in the near future you might consider a mild 'budget boost" A
> > 2" coil spacer budget boost + 31" tires will give you quite a bit more
> > ground clearance to the body (up to 3.5 inches if you have 215-75x 15
> > tires now)
> >
> > Coil spacer lifts of 2 inches or less can be done without the need of
> > replacing your stock shock absorbers.
> >
> > Complete kits with polyurethane spacers (2 pair) generally retail from
> > $100-$250
> >
> > For additional information see:
> > http://www.4lo.com/94jeep/2inch/boost.html
> > http://www.jeepzj.com/robert/JeepZJ.htm
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/tera/boost.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> > .
> > "mokordo" <mokordo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ogp2n152uqqmfgqi98kg9dsm9r9hg3b4pn@4ax.com...
> >> My daily driver is a TJ which I ocasionally use for off road
> >> adventures - nothing really extreme, I carry a Black Rat recovery
> >> winch but I've never had to use it (and hope that I never have to use
> >> it). I have been thinking about trading for a ZJ in order to have a
> >> more quiet and comfortable drive on my daily drive but I would hate to
> >> give up off road capability. Would I be really giving up a lot of
> >> capabilities with this switch?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
company has a bunch of Suburbans with canvas roofs with snaps...
Earle
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ..the only difference is the wheel
> base...it has the exact same suspension... as long as you don't mind
missing
> your open top Jeep during the summer you will love the ZJ.
>
> Jeff
> '95 ZJ & '03 TJ
>
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:7e800$437175c9$4831b233$7253@FUSE.NET...
> > There is a price to pay for the additional wheelbase as far as
off-roading
> > is concerned but in my opinion the trade off is well worth while. In
> > addition to improving your daily drive immensely you will increase your
> > off-road vehicle's comfort, cargo capacity, and, if need arises, you can
> > sleep comfortably in the back during torrential rains or weather
extremes.
> >
> > A stock ZJ with good tires is more capable than you might think. If new
> > tires are in the near future you might consider a mild 'budget boost" A
> > 2" coil spacer budget boost + 31" tires will give you quite a bit more
> > ground clearance to the body (up to 3.5 inches if you have 215-75x 15
> > tires now)
> >
> > Coil spacer lifts of 2 inches or less can be done without the need of
> > replacing your stock shock absorbers.
> >
> > Complete kits with polyurethane spacers (2 pair) generally retail from
> > $100-$250
> >
> > For additional information see:
> > http://www.4lo.com/94jeep/2inch/boost.html
> > http://www.jeepzj.com/robert/JeepZJ.htm
> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/grand/tera/boost.htm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> > .
> > "mokordo" <mokordo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ogp2n152uqqmfgqi98kg9dsm9r9hg3b4pn@4ax.com...
> >> My daily driver is a TJ which I ocasionally use for off road
> >> adventures - nothing really extreme, I carry a Black Rat recovery
> >> winch but I've never had to use it (and hope that I never have to use
> >> it). I have been thinking about trading for a ZJ in order to have a
> >> more quiet and comfortable drive on my daily drive but I would hate to
> >> give up off road capability. Would I be really giving up a lot of
> >> capabilities with this switch?
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
11-10-2005, 02:31 PM
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
youve never found the limitations of your tj.
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
youve never found the limitations of your tj.
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
11-10-2005, 02:31 PM
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
youve never found the limitations of your tj.
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
youve never found the limitations of your tj.
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
11-10-2005, 02:31 PM
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
youve never found the limitations of your tj.
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
youve never found the limitations of your tj.
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
11-11-2005, 08:54 AM
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
"youve never found the limitations of your tj."
?????
I'm not sure what you mean...
Jeff
"Nathan W. Collier" <Invalid@Email.com> wrote in message
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> "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
>> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
>
> youve never found the limitations of your tj.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
?????
I'm not sure what you mean...
Jeff
"Nathan W. Collier" <Invalid@Email.com> wrote in message
news:zeNcf.39$9L.4809@news.uswest.net...
> "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
>> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
>
> youve never found the limitations of your tj.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
11-11-2005, 08:54 AM
#18
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
"youve never found the limitations of your tj."
?????
I'm not sure what you mean...
Jeff
"Nathan W. Collier" <Invalid@Email.com> wrote in message
news:zeNcf.39$9L.4809@news.uswest.net...
> "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
>> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
>
> youve never found the limitations of your tj.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
?????
I'm not sure what you mean...
Jeff
"Nathan W. Collier" <Invalid@Email.com> wrote in message
news:zeNcf.39$9L.4809@news.uswest.net...
> "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
>> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
>
> youve never found the limitations of your tj.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
11-11-2005, 08:54 AM
#19
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
"youve never found the limitations of your tj."
?????
I'm not sure what you mean...
Jeff
"Nathan W. Collier" <Invalid@Email.com> wrote in message
news:zeNcf.39$9L.4809@news.uswest.net...
> "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
>> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
>
> youve never found the limitations of your tj.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
?????
I'm not sure what you mean...
Jeff
"Nathan W. Collier" <Invalid@Email.com> wrote in message
news:zeNcf.39$9L.4809@news.uswest.net...
> "4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
> news:viHcf.106165$y_1.64925@edtnps89...
>> The ZJ is every bit as capable as a TJ
>
> youve never found the limitations of your tj.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
11-11-2005, 12:07 PM
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Re: from TJ to ZJ?
"4X4PLAY" <jrhiltz@eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> "youve never found the limitations of your tj."
>
> ?????
>
> I'm not sure what you mean...
if you believe that the zj is "just as capable" as a tj (your words) then
you havent pushed your tj to its true limits. a zj is a _very_ capable
utility vehicle indeed.....probably 95% as capable as a tj but so is a
toyota tacoma and that extra 5-10% or so difference is what built the jeep
legend. as i said, if the original poster doesnt use his tj to its full
potential then he wont notice any difference, but stock for stock or mod for
mod, the zj is not "just as capable" as a tj.
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:Ho1df.106340$y_1.63683@edtnps89...
> "youve never found the limitations of your tj."
>
> ?????
>
> I'm not sure what you mean...
if you believe that the zj is "just as capable" as a tj (your words) then
you havent pushed your tj to its true limits. a zj is a _very_ capable
utility vehicle indeed.....probably 95% as capable as a tj but so is a
toyota tacoma and that extra 5-10% or so difference is what built the jeep
legend. as i said, if the original poster doesnt use his tj to its full
potential then he wont notice any difference, but stock for stock or mod for
mod, the zj is not "just as capable" as a tj.
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com