TJ vs JK
07-23-2007, 03:12 PM
#91
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Re: TJ vs JK
Mike Romain wrote:
> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
> became hard and brittle.
>
Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
remember that experience!
--
Will Honea
> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
> became hard and brittle.
>
Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
remember that experience!
--
Will Honea
07-23-2007, 03:12 PM
#92
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Re: TJ vs JK
Mike Romain wrote:
> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
> became hard and brittle.
>
Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
remember that experience!
--
Will Honea
> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
> became hard and brittle.
>
Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
remember that experience!
--
Will Honea
07-23-2007, 03:12 PM
#93
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Re: TJ vs JK
Mike Romain wrote:
> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
> became hard and brittle.
>
Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
remember that experience!
--
Will Honea
> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
> became hard and brittle.
>
Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
remember that experience!
--
Will Honea
07-23-2007, 03:47 PM
#94
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Re: TJ vs JK
Will Honea wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
>> became hard and brittle.
>>
>
> Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
> creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
> process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
> is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
> remember that experience!
>
Blister eh? ;-)
Mike
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
>> became hard and brittle.
>>
>
> Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
> creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
> process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
> is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
> remember that experience!
>
Blister eh? ;-)
Mike
07-23-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: TJ vs JK
Will Honea wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
>> became hard and brittle.
>>
>
> Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
> creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
> process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
> is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
> remember that experience!
>
Blister eh? ;-)
Mike
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
>> became hard and brittle.
>>
>
> Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
> creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
> process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
> is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
> remember that experience!
>
Blister eh? ;-)
Mike
07-23-2007, 03:47 PM
#96
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Re: TJ vs JK
Will Honea wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
>> became hard and brittle.
>>
>
> Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
> creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
> process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
> is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
> remember that experience!
>
Blister eh? ;-)
Mike
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
>> became hard and brittle.
>>
>
> Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
> creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
> process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
> is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
> remember that experience!
>
Blister eh? ;-)
Mike
07-23-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: TJ vs JK
Will Honea wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
>> became hard and brittle.
>>
>
> Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
> creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
> process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
> is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
> remember that experience!
>
Blister eh? ;-)
Mike
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> But ever notice after a few straightens it cracks? That is because it
>> became hard and brittle.
>>
>
> Technically, Mike, that should be fatigued. Bending a wire to break it
> creates several interesting effects in metal, especially steel, in the
> process - that is, if you are trying to pass a metallurgy course and that
> is one of the experiments. Even with my memory these days, I can still
> remember that experience!
>
Blister eh? ;-)
Mike
07-25-2007, 09:48 AM
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Re: TJ vs JK
Looks like no one is interested in responding to your question, so I'll
give it a shot. You may have been quoting me below, but I'm sure there
are others with sentiments in that direction among the Jeep crew. Let me
qualify that statement by saying the new JK will never REPLACE my
current SWB Wrangler. I could see owning one of the 4dr models to
compliment the TJ, but one of the things I love about the TJ is that it
has largely held on to the CJ7 size which I enjoy on/offroad. The JK is
bigger and less appealing to me, but it also depends on the size of the
trails you are running as well.
tw
txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
> I have been reading some of the specs on the JK Rubicon
> Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
> flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
> lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
> manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
> capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
> on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
> pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
> vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
> tow over 2000 lbs!
>
> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>
> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>
> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
> like an offroader's dream!
>
> I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
> never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
> they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
> first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
> when compared to the ******.
>
> So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
> are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
> a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
> material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
> to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?
>
give it a shot. You may have been quoting me below, but I'm sure there
are others with sentiments in that direction among the Jeep crew. Let me
qualify that statement by saying the new JK will never REPLACE my
current SWB Wrangler. I could see owning one of the 4dr models to
compliment the TJ, but one of the things I love about the TJ is that it
has largely held on to the CJ7 size which I enjoy on/offroad. The JK is
bigger and less appealing to me, but it also depends on the size of the
trails you are running as well.
tw
txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
> I have been reading some of the specs on the JK Rubicon
> Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
> flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
> lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
> manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
> capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
> on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
> pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
> vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
> tow over 2000 lbs!
>
> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>
> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>
> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
> like an offroader's dream!
>
> I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
> never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
> they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
> first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
> when compared to the ******.
>
> So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
> are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
> a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
> material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
> to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?
>
07-25-2007, 09:48 AM
#99
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Re: TJ vs JK
Looks like no one is interested in responding to your question, so I'll
give it a shot. You may have been quoting me below, but I'm sure there
are others with sentiments in that direction among the Jeep crew. Let me
qualify that statement by saying the new JK will never REPLACE my
current SWB Wrangler. I could see owning one of the 4dr models to
compliment the TJ, but one of the things I love about the TJ is that it
has largely held on to the CJ7 size which I enjoy on/offroad. The JK is
bigger and less appealing to me, but it also depends on the size of the
trails you are running as well.
tw
txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
> I have been reading some of the specs on the JK Rubicon
> Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
> flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
> lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
> manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
> capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
> on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
> pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
> vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
> tow over 2000 lbs!
>
> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>
> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>
> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
> like an offroader's dream!
>
> I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
> never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
> they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
> first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
> when compared to the ******.
>
> So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
> are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
> a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
> material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
> to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?
>
give it a shot. You may have been quoting me below, but I'm sure there
are others with sentiments in that direction among the Jeep crew. Let me
qualify that statement by saying the new JK will never REPLACE my
current SWB Wrangler. I could see owning one of the 4dr models to
compliment the TJ, but one of the things I love about the TJ is that it
has largely held on to the CJ7 size which I enjoy on/offroad. The JK is
bigger and less appealing to me, but it also depends on the size of the
trails you are running as well.
tw
txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
> I have been reading some of the specs on the JK Rubicon
> Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
> flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
> lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
> manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
> capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
> on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
> pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
> vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
> tow over 2000 lbs!
>
> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>
> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>
> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
> like an offroader's dream!
>
> I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
> never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
> they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
> first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
> when compared to the ******.
>
> So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
> are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
> a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
> material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
> to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?
>
07-25-2007, 09:48 AM
#100
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Re: TJ vs JK
Looks like no one is interested in responding to your question, so I'll
give it a shot. You may have been quoting me below, but I'm sure there
are others with sentiments in that direction among the Jeep crew. Let me
qualify that statement by saying the new JK will never REPLACE my
current SWB Wrangler. I could see owning one of the 4dr models to
compliment the TJ, but one of the things I love about the TJ is that it
has largely held on to the CJ7 size which I enjoy on/offroad. The JK is
bigger and less appealing to me, but it also depends on the size of the
trails you are running as well.
tw
txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
> I have been reading some of the specs on the JK Rubicon
> Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
> flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
> lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
> manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
> capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
> on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
> pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
> vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
> tow over 2000 lbs!
>
> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>
> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>
> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
> like an offroader's dream!
>
> I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
> never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
> they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
> first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
> when compared to the ******.
>
> So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
> are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
> a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
> material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
> to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?
>
give it a shot. You may have been quoting me below, but I'm sure there
are others with sentiments in that direction among the Jeep crew. Let me
qualify that statement by saying the new JK will never REPLACE my
current SWB Wrangler. I could see owning one of the 4dr models to
compliment the TJ, but one of the things I love about the TJ is that it
has largely held on to the CJ7 size which I enjoy on/offroad. The JK is
bigger and less appealing to me, but it also depends on the size of the
trails you are running as well.
tw
txjeep7@gmail.com wrote:
> I have been reading some of the specs on the JK Rubicon
> Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
> flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
> lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
> manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
> capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
> on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
> pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
> vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
> tow over 2000 lbs!
>
> As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
> been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
> for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
>
> But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
> disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
> "the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
>
> Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
> like an offroader's dream!
>
> I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
> never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
> they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
> first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
> when compared to the ******.
>
> So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
> are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
> a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
> material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
> to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?
>