TJ vs JK
 

I have been reading some of the specs on the JK Rubicon
Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
tow over 2000 lbs!

As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!

But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
"the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."

Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
like an offroader's dream!

I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
when compared to the Willys.

So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?

Re: TJ vs JK
 

everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers

(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)

The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.

Re: TJ vs JK
 

everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers

(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)

The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.

Re: TJ vs JK
 

everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers

(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)

The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.

Re: TJ vs JK
 

everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers

(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)

The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:

>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers


Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:

>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers


Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:

>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers


Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:

>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers


Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.

Back in 93 when I got the ZJ, I was also looking at some trucks.
Went and put a foot up on a ford front bumper and the darn thing
bent down. Upon closer examination it was just body thin metal
over some foam and steel backing.

My old Chevy C-10 you could pull stumps with the bumper or jack
the vehicle out of the mud.

Of course the ZJ has the same problem, but at least the bumpers
_are_ plastic and not something made to look stronger than it is.

--
DougW

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.

Back in 93 when I got the ZJ, I was also looking at some trucks.
Went and put a foot up on a ford front bumper and the darn thing
bent down. Upon closer examination it was just body thin metal
over some foam and steel backing.

My old Chevy C-10 you could pull stumps with the bumper or jack
the vehicle out of the mud.

Of course the ZJ has the same problem, but at least the bumpers
_are_ plastic and not something made to look stronger than it is.

--
DougW

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.

Back in 93 when I got the ZJ, I was also looking at some trucks.
Went and put a foot up on a ford front bumper and the darn thing
bent down. Upon closer examination it was just body thin metal
over some foam and steel backing.

My old Chevy C-10 you could pull stumps with the bumper or jack
the vehicle out of the mud.

Of course the ZJ has the same problem, but at least the bumpers
_are_ plastic and not something made to look stronger than it is.

--
DougW

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.

Back in 93 when I got the ZJ, I was also looking at some trucks.
Went and put a foot up on a ford front bumper and the darn thing
bent down. Upon closer examination it was just body thin metal
over some foam and steel backing.

My old Chevy C-10 you could pull stumps with the bumper or jack
the vehicle out of the mud.

Of course the ZJ has the same problem, but at least the bumpers
_are_ plastic and not something made to look stronger than it is.

--
DougW

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.

Paul Nelson


in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike at
MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:

> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.

Paul Nelson


in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike at
MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:

> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.

Paul Nelson


in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike at
MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:

> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.

Paul Nelson


in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike at
MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:

> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers

Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Jul 19, 9:38 pm, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

yea but at least the bumper piece in the middle is actually metal.
that's what counts

Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Jul 19, 9:38 pm, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

yea but at least the bumper piece in the middle is actually metal.
that's what counts

Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Jul 19, 9:38 pm, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

yea but at least the bumper piece in the middle is actually metal.
that's what counts

Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Jul 19, 9:38 pm, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJun...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

yea but at least the bumper piece in the middle is actually metal.
that's what counts

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Bumpers?

I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a bumper?
Me thinks not.






"Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
> Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
>
> Paul Nelson
>
>
> in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
> at
> MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Bumpers?

I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a bumper?
Me thinks not.






"Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
> Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
>
> Paul Nelson
>
>
> in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
> at
> MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Bumpers?

I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a bumper?
Me thinks not.






"Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
> Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
>
> Paul Nelson
>
>
> in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
> at
> MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Bumpers?

I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a bumper?
Me thinks not.






"Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
> Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
>
> Paul Nelson
>
>
> in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
> at
> MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
but it's bent too. Doesn't look like a factory bend...

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fGVni.6710$2o5.301@trnddc03...
>
> Bumpers?
>
> I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a
bumper?
> Me thinks not.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
> > Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> >
> >
> > in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
> > at
> > MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
> >
> >> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
> >
>



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Re: TJ vs JK
 

Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
but it's bent too. Doesn't look like a factory bend...

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fGVni.6710$2o5.301@trnddc03...
>
> Bumpers?
>
> I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a
bumper?
> Me thinks not.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
> > Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> >
> >
> > in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
> > at
> > MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
> >
> >> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
> >
>



--
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Re: TJ vs JK
 

Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
but it's bent too. Doesn't look like a factory bend...

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fGVni.6710$2o5.301@trnddc03...
>
> Bumpers?
>
> I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a
bumper?
> Me thinks not.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
> > Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> >
> >
> > in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
> > at
> > MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
> >
> >> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
> >
>



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Re: TJ vs JK
 

Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
but it's bent too. Doesn't look like a factory bend...

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fGVni.6710$2o5.301@trnddc03...
>
> Bumpers?
>
> I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a
bumper?
> Me thinks not.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
> > Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> >
> >
> > in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
> > at
> > MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
> >
> >> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
> >
>



--
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Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:36:31 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:

>yea but at least the bumper piece in the middle is actually metal.
>that's what counts


The middle helps but the sides are important too because you do not
want some brush to rip them off.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:36:31 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:

>yea but at least the bumper piece in the middle is actually metal.
>that's what counts


The middle helps but the sides are important too because you do not
want some brush to rip them off.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:36:31 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:

>yea but at least the bumper piece in the middle is actually metal.
>that's what counts


The middle helps but the sides are important too because you do not
want some brush to rip them off.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:36:31 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:

>yea but at least the bumper piece in the middle is actually metal.
>that's what counts


The middle helps but the sides are important too because you do not
want some brush to rip them off.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:36:23 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:

>Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
>but it's bent too.


But it is still there and not broken off and missing.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:36:23 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:

>Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
>but it's bent too.


But it is still there and not broken off and missing.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:36:23 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:

>Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
>but it's bent too.


But it is still there and not broken off and missing.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: TJ vs JK
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:36:23 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote:

>Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
>but it's bent too.


But it is still there and not broken off and missing.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Must be catching... I have straightened mine 3 times, then I gave up.
Funny enough it only seems to have fights with trees and river banks
when it is straight....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
> but it's bent too. Doesn't look like a factory bend...
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:fGVni.6710$2o5.301@trnddc03...
>> Bumpers?
>>
>> I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a
> bumper?
>> Me thinks not.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
>>> Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
>>>
>>> Paul Nelson
>>>
>>>
>>> in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
>>> at
>>> MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
>>>
>>>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
>
>

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Must be catching... I have straightened mine 3 times, then I gave up.
Funny enough it only seems to have fights with trees and river banks
when it is straight....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Earle Horton wrote:
> Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
> but it's bent too. Doesn't look like a factory bend...
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:fGVni.6710$2o5.301@trnddc03...
>> Bumpers?
>>
>> I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a
> bumper?
>> Me thinks not.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
>>> Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
>>>
>>> Paul Nelson
>>>
>>>
>>> in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
>>> at
>>> MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
>>>
>>>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
>
>

Re: TJ vs JK
 

Must be catching... I have straightened mine 3 times, then I gave up.
Funny enough it only seems to have fights with trees and river banks
when it is straight....

Mike
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Earle Horton wrote:
> Heh, I have something across the front of my YJ, and it is definitely metal,
> but it's bent too. Doesn't look like a factory bend...
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Earle
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:fGVni.6710$2o5.301@trnddc03...
>> Bumpers?
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>> I have something across the front, and it's bent, but is it really a
> bumper?
>> Me thinks not.
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>> "Paul Nelson" <paulnelsontx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:C2C58798.684BB%paulnelsontx@gmail.com...
>>> Er. Real Jeeps have 'bent' metal bumpers.
>>>
>>> Paul Nelson
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>>> in article 1184893671.998847.47600@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.co m, 97tjMike
>>> at
>>> MichaelJunior@gmail.com wrote on 7/19/07 8:07 PM:
>>>
>>>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
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