TJ vs JK
07-18-2007, 11:42 PM
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TJ vs JK
I have been reading some of the specs on the JK Rubicon
Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
tow over 2000 lbs!
As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
"the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
like an offroader's dream!
I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
when compared to the ******.
So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?
Unlimited.... front and rear lockers you can activate with the
flick of a switch? dana 44s front and rear? 32" tires standard, no
lift kit needed?? 4.10 gear ratio, 4:1 compression, and a six speed
manual? And all with a factory warranty!!! Sounds like the most
capable stock jeep EVER. You might even be able to stick 33s or 34s
on it straight out of the showroom! Not to mention, it can tow 3500
pounds.... I might finally be able to get rid of the separate tow
vehicle I had to keep for my jet skis and ATVs because my TJ couldn't
tow over 2000 lbs!
As soon as I saw the photos and read the first specs, my heart has
been racing with desire. Pamela Anderson move over, all my lust is
for the latest and greatest off the Chrysler assembly line!
But wait. There seems to be a derisive undercurrent of scorn and
disappointment here on the jeep group. People are saying things like
"the TJ is the last wrangler I'll ever buy."
Why?????? What am I missing? What's wrong with the JK... it sounds
like an offroader's dream!
I remember when the TJ came out, people scoffed and said it would
never be as good as the YJ. And when the YJ came out, people swore
they'd never give up the CJ. I'm too young to remember when the CJ
first hit the market, but I'm willing to bet people were dissing it
when compared to the ******.
So... is all this anti-JK sentiment just "sour grapes" by people who
are slow to change (and perhaps a bit unhappy/jealous that they bought
a TJ and now something has eclipsed it)? Or is there some real,
material failing in the JK that I need to be aware of before trekking
to a dealership to lay down my cash for one?
07-19-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: TJ vs JK
everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)
The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.
(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)
The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.
07-19-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: TJ vs JK
everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)
The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.
(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)
The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.
07-19-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: TJ vs JK
everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)
The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.
(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)
The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.
07-19-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: TJ vs JK
everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)
The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.
(...easy to fix w/ aftermarket parts I guess)
The only other thing I have against the new one is that it's too big.
The TJ and its predecessors were small trucks, and this one is
freaking too huge for my taste (even the two door). But it's all good,
I wouldn't mind the JK but the bumpers would be the first thing I'd
upgrade.
07-19-2007, 09:38 PM
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Re: Re: TJ vs JK
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:
>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
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TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
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TheSnoMan.com
07-19-2007, 09:38 PM
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Re: Re: TJ vs JK
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:
>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
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TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
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TheSnoMan.com
07-19-2007, 09:38 PM
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Re: Re: TJ vs JK
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:
>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
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TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
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TheSnoMan.com
07-19-2007, 09:38 PM
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Re: Re: TJ vs JK
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
wrote:
>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
truck.
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TheSnoMan.com
07-19-2007, 09:51 PM
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Re: Re: TJ vs JK
SnoMan wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.
Back in 93 when I got the ZJ, I was also looking at some trucks.
Went and put a foot up on a ford front bumper and the darn thing
bent down. Upon closer examination it was just body thin metal
over some foam and steel backing.
My old Chevy C-10 you could pull stumps with the bumper or jack
the vehicle out of the mud.
Of course the ZJ has the same problem, but at least the bumpers
_are_ plastic and not something made to look stronger than it is.
--
DougW
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:51 -0700, 97tjMike <MichaelJunior@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> everyone knows that real jeeps have metal bumpers
>
>
> Kinda like real trucks are supposed to too. The new Chevy 07 trucks
> have chrome plated plastic wings that at a glance look like massive
> metal bumbers in front of front wheels. I guess I am old fashioned as
> I beleive 4x4's should have real metal bumbers be it a Jeep, SUV or a
> truck.
Back in 93 when I got the ZJ, I was also looking at some trucks.
Went and put a foot up on a ford front bumper and the darn thing
bent down. Upon closer examination it was just body thin metal
over some foam and steel backing.
My old Chevy C-10 you could pull stumps with the bumper or jack
the vehicle out of the mud.
Of course the ZJ has the same problem, but at least the bumpers
_are_ plastic and not something made to look stronger than it is.
--
DougW