TJ Tire Size
#61
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Re: TJ Tire Size
Well, 75 is a percent so you really use .75, so 225 * .75 = 168.75 x 2 =
337.5 / 25.4 = 13.29 + 15 = 28.29
Sorry, I thought everybody knew that an aspect ratio was a percent. Maybe
that's because I think that any ratio is a percent.
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
> 1343.74
> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
> ?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>> I got it.
>>
>> I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions and
>> arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of the
>> Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>>
>> Try this formula with your calculator
>> <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>>
>> If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column as
>> Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
>> =((A2*B2)*2
> /
>> 25.4 + C2)
>>
>> The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> interested in.
>>
>> TIP
>> Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply the
>> formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>> > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
> width.
>> >
>> > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>> >
>> > --
>> > .
>> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> > .
>> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>> >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
>> >>> MTR's:
>> >>>
>> >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
> sidewalls,
>> >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else they
>> >>> can
>> >>> sink their claws into."
>> >>>
>> >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about 30.75"
>> >>> diameter.
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>> >>>> Rubis get a 32.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>> >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>> >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>> >>>>>> Safari.
>> >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest tire
> I
>> >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>> >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> BM
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
337.5 / 25.4 = 13.29 + 15 = 28.29
Sorry, I thought everybody knew that an aspect ratio was a percent. Maybe
that's because I think that any ratio is a percent.
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
> 1343.74
> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
> ?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>> I got it.
>>
>> I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions and
>> arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of the
>> Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>>
>> Try this formula with your calculator
>> <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>>
>> If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column as
>> Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
>> =((A2*B2)*2
> /
>> 25.4 + C2)
>>
>> The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> interested in.
>>
>> TIP
>> Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply the
>> formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>> > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
> width.
>> >
>> > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>> >
>> > --
>> > .
>> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> > .
>> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>> >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
>> >>> MTR's:
>> >>>
>> >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
> sidewalls,
>> >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else they
>> >>> can
>> >>> sink their claws into."
>> >>>
>> >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about 30.75"
>> >>> diameter.
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>> >>>> Rubis get a 32.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>> >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>> >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>> >>>>>> Safari.
>> >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest tire
> I
>> >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>> >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
>> >>>>>> with
>> >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> BM
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
#62
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Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Tire Size
Where did you come up with 1270?
The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might not
be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if you
expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't get
to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
A * (B / 100) ...
In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
multiplied by the size.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Tomes,
>
> You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect ratio
> without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions coming
> up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of .75).
>
> Chris
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
>> 1343.74
>> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
>> ?
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>> > I got it.
>> >
>> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
>> > and
>> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
>> > the
>> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>> >
>> > Try this formula with your calculator
>> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>> >
>> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
>> > as
>> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> =((A2*B2)*2
>> /
>> > 25.4 + C2)
>> >
>> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> > interested in.
>> >
>> > TIP
>> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
>> > the
>> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> involved.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>> width.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > .
>> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> > > .
>> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> MTR's:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>> sidewalls,
>> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else they
> can
>> > >>> sink their claws into."
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> 30.75"
>> > >>> diameter.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what
> is
>> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>> > >>>>>> Safari.
>> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> tire
>> I
>> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> with
>> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> BM
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might not
be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if you
expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't get
to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
A * (B / 100) ...
In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
multiplied by the size.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Tomes,
>
> You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect ratio
> without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions coming
> up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of .75).
>
> Chris
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
>> 1343.74
>> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
>> ?
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>> > I got it.
>> >
>> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
>> > and
>> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
>> > the
>> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>> >
>> > Try this formula with your calculator
>> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>> >
>> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
>> > as
>> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> =((A2*B2)*2
>> /
>> > 25.4 + C2)
>> >
>> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> > interested in.
>> >
>> > TIP
>> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
>> > the
>> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> involved.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>> width.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > .
>> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> > > .
>> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> MTR's:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>> sidewalls,
>> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else they
> can
>> > >>> sink their claws into."
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> 30.75"
>> > >>> diameter.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what
> is
>> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>> > >>>>>> Safari.
>> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> tire
>> I
>> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> with
>> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> BM
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#63
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Tire Size
Where did you come up with 1270?
The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might not
be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if you
expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't get
to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
A * (B / 100) ...
In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
multiplied by the size.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Tomes,
>
> You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect ratio
> without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions coming
> up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of .75).
>
> Chris
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
>> 1343.74
>> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
>> ?
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>> > I got it.
>> >
>> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
>> > and
>> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
>> > the
>> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>> >
>> > Try this formula with your calculator
>> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>> >
>> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
>> > as
>> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> =((A2*B2)*2
>> /
>> > 25.4 + C2)
>> >
>> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> > interested in.
>> >
>> > TIP
>> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
>> > the
>> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> involved.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>> width.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > .
>> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> > > .
>> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> MTR's:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>> sidewalls,
>> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else they
> can
>> > >>> sink their claws into."
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> 30.75"
>> > >>> diameter.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what
> is
>> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>> > >>>>>> Safari.
>> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> tire
>> I
>> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> with
>> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> BM
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might not
be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if you
expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't get
to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
A * (B / 100) ...
In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
multiplied by the size.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Tomes,
>
> You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect ratio
> without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions coming
> up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of .75).
>
> Chris
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
>> 1343.74
>> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
>> ?
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>> > I got it.
>> >
>> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
>> > and
>> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
>> > the
>> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>> >
>> > Try this formula with your calculator
>> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>> >
>> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
>> > as
>> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> =((A2*B2)*2
>> /
>> > 25.4 + C2)
>> >
>> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> > interested in.
>> >
>> > TIP
>> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
>> > the
>> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> involved.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>> width.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > .
>> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> > > .
>> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> MTR's:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>> sidewalls,
>> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else they
> can
>> > >>> sink their claws into."
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> 30.75"
>> > >>> diameter.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what
> is
>> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>> > >>>>>> Safari.
>> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> tire
>> I
>> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> with
>> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> BM
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#64
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Tire Size
Where did you come up with 1270?
The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might not
be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if you
expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't get
to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
A * (B / 100) ...
In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
multiplied by the size.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Tomes,
>
> You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect ratio
> without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions coming
> up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of .75).
>
> Chris
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
>> 1343.74
>> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
>> ?
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>> > I got it.
>> >
>> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
>> > and
>> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
>> > the
>> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>> >
>> > Try this formula with your calculator
>> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>> >
>> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
>> > as
>> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> =((A2*B2)*2
>> /
>> > 25.4 + C2)
>> >
>> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> > interested in.
>> >
>> > TIP
>> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
>> > the
>> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> involved.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>> width.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > .
>> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> > > .
>> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> MTR's:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>> sidewalls,
>> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else they
> can
>> > >>> sink their claws into."
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> 30.75"
>> > >>> diameter.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what
> is
>> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>> > >>>>>> Safari.
>> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> tire
>> I
>> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> with
>> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> BM
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might not
be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if you
expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't get
to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
A * (B / 100) ...
In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
multiplied by the size.
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Tomes,
>
> You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect ratio
> without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions coming
> up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of .75).
>
> Chris
>
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
>> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
>> 1343.74
>> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
>> ?
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>> > I got it.
>> >
>> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
>> > and
>> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
>> > the
>> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>> >
>> > Try this formula with your calculator
>> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>> >
>> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
>> > as
>> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> =((A2*B2)*2
>> /
>> > 25.4 + C2)
>> >
>> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> > interested in.
>> >
>> > TIP
>> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
>> > the
>> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> involved.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>> width.
>> > >
>> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > .
>> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> > > .
>> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> MTR's:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>> sidewalls,
>> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else they
> can
>> > >>> sink their claws into."
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> 30.75"
>> > >>> diameter.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what
> is
>> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>> > >>>>>> Safari.
>> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> tire
>> I
>> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> with
>> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> BM
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#65
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Tire Size
=(((B4*(C4/100))/25.4)*2+D4)
Open a new ------sheet.
Label B3, Width, C3, Ratio, and D3 Rim, then in B4, enter 225, in C4, 75,
and in D4, 15, then in E4, insert the formula above, and label E3 Overall
Diameter, if you want to. The data shown in E4 will be the result of the
formula having been applied to the other cells.
Now, select cell E4 and drag the bottom right corner straight down. The
formula will automatically change B4 to B5, then B6, etc., as is appropriate
and you can enter lots of sizes to see what happens as you play with the
numbers. The calculator is especially handy with changing from a 15" rim to
a 17" or 18" rim and you want to find the new aspect ratio that will leave
you with the same size tire so that you don't have to mess with the
speedometer or the gearing.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8fda7$4330ba29$d8449845$13277@FUSE.NET...
> Can you e-mail me the excel sheet?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>>I got it.
>>
>> I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions and
>> arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of the
>> Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>>
>> Try this formula with your calculator
>> <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>>
>> If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column as
>> Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
>> =((A2*B2)*2 / 25.4 + C2)
>>
>> The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> interested in.
>>
>> TIP
>> Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply the
>> formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>>> 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>>> width.
>>>
>>> http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>>>
>>> --
>>> .
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> .
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>>>> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>>>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear MTR's:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>>>>> sidewalls, these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything
>>>>> else they can sink their claws into."
>>>>>
>>>>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about 30.75"
>>>>> diameter.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Rubis get a 32.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what is
>>>>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>>>>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>>>>>>>> Safari.
>>>>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest tire
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>>>>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading with
>>>>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
#66
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Tire Size
=(((B4*(C4/100))/25.4)*2+D4)
Open a new ------sheet.
Label B3, Width, C3, Ratio, and D3 Rim, then in B4, enter 225, in C4, 75,
and in D4, 15, then in E4, insert the formula above, and label E3 Overall
Diameter, if you want to. The data shown in E4 will be the result of the
formula having been applied to the other cells.
Now, select cell E4 and drag the bottom right corner straight down. The
formula will automatically change B4 to B5, then B6, etc., as is appropriate
and you can enter lots of sizes to see what happens as you play with the
numbers. The calculator is especially handy with changing from a 15" rim to
a 17" or 18" rim and you want to find the new aspect ratio that will leave
you with the same size tire so that you don't have to mess with the
speedometer or the gearing.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8fda7$4330ba29$d8449845$13277@FUSE.NET...
> Can you e-mail me the excel sheet?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>>I got it.
>>
>> I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions and
>> arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of the
>> Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>>
>> Try this formula with your calculator
>> <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>>
>> If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column as
>> Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
>> =((A2*B2)*2 / 25.4 + C2)
>>
>> The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> interested in.
>>
>> TIP
>> Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply the
>> formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>>> 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>>> width.
>>>
>>> http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>>>
>>> --
>>> .
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> .
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>>>> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>>>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear MTR's:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>>>>> sidewalls, these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything
>>>>> else they can sink their claws into."
>>>>>
>>>>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about 30.75"
>>>>> diameter.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Rubis get a 32.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what is
>>>>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>>>>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>>>>>>>> Safari.
>>>>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest tire
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>>>>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading with
>>>>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Tire Size
=(((B4*(C4/100))/25.4)*2+D4)
Open a new ------sheet.
Label B3, Width, C3, Ratio, and D3 Rim, then in B4, enter 225, in C4, 75,
and in D4, 15, then in E4, insert the formula above, and label E3 Overall
Diameter, if you want to. The data shown in E4 will be the result of the
formula having been applied to the other cells.
Now, select cell E4 and drag the bottom right corner straight down. The
formula will automatically change B4 to B5, then B6, etc., as is appropriate
and you can enter lots of sizes to see what happens as you play with the
numbers. The calculator is especially handy with changing from a 15" rim to
a 17" or 18" rim and you want to find the new aspect ratio that will leave
you with the same size tire so that you don't have to mess with the
speedometer or the gearing.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8fda7$4330ba29$d8449845$13277@FUSE.NET...
> Can you e-mail me the excel sheet?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
>>I got it.
>>
>> I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions and
>> arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of the
>> Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
>>
>> Try this formula with your calculator
>> <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 + <rim
>> diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
>>
>> If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column as
>> Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the D
>> column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
>> =((A2*B2)*2 / 25.4 + C2)
>>
>> The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
>> interested in.
>>
>> TIP
>> Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply the
>> formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
>>> 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
>>> width.
>>>
>>> http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
>>>
>>> --
>>> .
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>>> .
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
>>>> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>>>>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear MTR's:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
>>>>> sidewalls, these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything
>>>>> else they can sink their claws into."
>>>>>
>>>>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about 30.75"
>>>>> diameter.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Rubis get a 32.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats what is
>>>>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
>>>>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
>>>>>>>> Safari.
>>>>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest tire
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience any
>>>>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading with
>>>>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Tire Size
Our formulas end up doing the same thing. I just eliminated a few steps.
Your formula divides by 100 to convert the ratio to a whole number,
multiplies by 2 for the sidewalls, and divides by 25.4 to convert mm to
inches. This is the same as dividing by 1270. ;-)
Chris
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4amdnUSAFJQmrq7eRVn-uw@ez2.net...
> Where did you come up with 1270?
>
> The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
> where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
> row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
>
> The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
> applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might
not
> be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if
you
> expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
> don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't
get
> to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
>
> An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
> A * (B / 100) ...
>
> In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
> multiplied by the size.
>
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Tomes,
> >
> > You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> > need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect
ratio
> > without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions
coming
> > up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> > enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of
..75).
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> >> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
> >> 1343.74
> >> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
> >> ?
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
> >> > I got it.
> >> >
> >> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
> >> > and
> >> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
> >> > the
> >> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
> >> >
> >> > Try this formula with your calculator
> >> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 +
<rim
> >> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
> >> >
> >> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
> >> > as
> >> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the
D
> >> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> > =((A2*B2)*2
> >> /
> >> > 25.4 + C2)
> >> >
> >> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
> >> > interested in.
> >> >
> >> > TIP
> >> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
> >> > the
> >> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> > involved.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
> >> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
> >> width.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > .
> >> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> > > .
> >> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> >> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> > MTR's:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
> >> sidewalls,
> >> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else
they
> > can
> >> > >>> sink their claws into."
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> > 30.75"
> >> > >>> diameter.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
> >> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
> >> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats
what
> > is
> >> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
> >> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
> >> > >>>>>> Safari.
> >> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> > tire
> >> I
> >> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience
any
> >> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> > with
> >> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> BM
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Your formula divides by 100 to convert the ratio to a whole number,
multiplies by 2 for the sidewalls, and divides by 25.4 to convert mm to
inches. This is the same as dividing by 1270. ;-)
Chris
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4amdnUSAFJQmrq7eRVn-uw@ez2.net...
> Where did you come up with 1270?
>
> The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
> where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
> row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
>
> The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
> applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might
not
> be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if
you
> expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
> don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't
get
> to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
>
> An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
> A * (B / 100) ...
>
> In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
> multiplied by the size.
>
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Tomes,
> >
> > You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> > need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect
ratio
> > without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions
coming
> > up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> > enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of
..75).
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> >> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
> >> 1343.74
> >> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
> >> ?
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
> >> > I got it.
> >> >
> >> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
> >> > and
> >> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
> >> > the
> >> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
> >> >
> >> > Try this formula with your calculator
> >> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 +
<rim
> >> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
> >> >
> >> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
> >> > as
> >> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the
D
> >> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> > =((A2*B2)*2
> >> /
> >> > 25.4 + C2)
> >> >
> >> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
> >> > interested in.
> >> >
> >> > TIP
> >> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
> >> > the
> >> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> > involved.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
> >> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
> >> width.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > .
> >> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> > > .
> >> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> >> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> > MTR's:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
> >> sidewalls,
> >> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else
they
> > can
> >> > >>> sink their claws into."
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> > 30.75"
> >> > >>> diameter.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
> >> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
> >> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats
what
> > is
> >> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
> >> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
> >> > >>>>>> Safari.
> >> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> > tire
> >> I
> >> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience
any
> >> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> > with
> >> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> BM
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Tire Size
Our formulas end up doing the same thing. I just eliminated a few steps.
Your formula divides by 100 to convert the ratio to a whole number,
multiplies by 2 for the sidewalls, and divides by 25.4 to convert mm to
inches. This is the same as dividing by 1270. ;-)
Chris
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4amdnUSAFJQmrq7eRVn-uw@ez2.net...
> Where did you come up with 1270?
>
> The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
> where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
> row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
>
> The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
> applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might
not
> be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if
you
> expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
> don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't
get
> to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
>
> An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
> A * (B / 100) ...
>
> In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
> multiplied by the size.
>
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Tomes,
> >
> > You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> > need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect
ratio
> > without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions
coming
> > up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> > enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of
..75).
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> >> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
> >> 1343.74
> >> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
> >> ?
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
> >> > I got it.
> >> >
> >> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
> >> > and
> >> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
> >> > the
> >> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
> >> >
> >> > Try this formula with your calculator
> >> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 +
<rim
> >> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
> >> >
> >> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
> >> > as
> >> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the
D
> >> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> > =((A2*B2)*2
> >> /
> >> > 25.4 + C2)
> >> >
> >> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
> >> > interested in.
> >> >
> >> > TIP
> >> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
> >> > the
> >> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> > involved.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
> >> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
> >> width.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > .
> >> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> > > .
> >> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> >> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> > MTR's:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
> >> sidewalls,
> >> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else
they
> > can
> >> > >>> sink their claws into."
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> > 30.75"
> >> > >>> diameter.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
> >> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
> >> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats
what
> > is
> >> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
> >> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
> >> > >>>>>> Safari.
> >> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> > tire
> >> I
> >> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience
any
> >> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> > with
> >> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> BM
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Your formula divides by 100 to convert the ratio to a whole number,
multiplies by 2 for the sidewalls, and divides by 25.4 to convert mm to
inches. This is the same as dividing by 1270. ;-)
Chris
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4amdnUSAFJQmrq7eRVn-uw@ez2.net...
> Where did you come up with 1270?
>
> The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
> where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
> row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
>
> The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
> applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might
not
> be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if
you
> expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
> don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't
get
> to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
>
> An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
> A * (B / 100) ...
>
> In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
> multiplied by the size.
>
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Tomes,
> >
> > You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> > need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect
ratio
> > without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions
coming
> > up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> > enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of
..75).
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> >> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
> >> 1343.74
> >> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
> >> ?
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
> >> > I got it.
> >> >
> >> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
> >> > and
> >> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
> >> > the
> >> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
> >> >
> >> > Try this formula with your calculator
> >> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 +
<rim
> >> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
> >> >
> >> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
> >> > as
> >> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the
D
> >> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> > =((A2*B2)*2
> >> /
> >> > 25.4 + C2)
> >> >
> >> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
> >> > interested in.
> >> >
> >> > TIP
> >> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
> >> > the
> >> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> > involved.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
> >> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
> >> width.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > .
> >> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> > > .
> >> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> >> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> > MTR's:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
> >> sidewalls,
> >> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else
they
> > can
> >> > >>> sink their claws into."
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> > 30.75"
> >> > >>> diameter.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
> >> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
> >> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats
what
> > is
> >> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
> >> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
> >> > >>>>>> Safari.
> >> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> > tire
> >> I
> >> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience
any
> >> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> > with
> >> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> BM
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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Re: TJ Tire Size
Our formulas end up doing the same thing. I just eliminated a few steps.
Your formula divides by 100 to convert the ratio to a whole number,
multiplies by 2 for the sidewalls, and divides by 25.4 to convert mm to
inches. This is the same as dividing by 1270. ;-)
Chris
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4amdnUSAFJQmrq7eRVn-uw@ez2.net...
> Where did you come up with 1270?
>
> The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
> where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
> row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
>
> The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
> applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might
not
> be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if
you
> expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
> don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't
get
> to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
>
> An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
> A * (B / 100) ...
>
> In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
> multiplied by the size.
>
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Tomes,
> >
> > You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> > need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect
ratio
> > without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions
coming
> > up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> > enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of
..75).
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> >> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
> >> 1343.74
> >> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
> >> ?
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
> >> > I got it.
> >> >
> >> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
> >> > and
> >> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
> >> > the
> >> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
> >> >
> >> > Try this formula with your calculator
> >> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 +
<rim
> >> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
> >> >
> >> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
> >> > as
> >> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the
D
> >> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> > =((A2*B2)*2
> >> /
> >> > 25.4 + C2)
> >> >
> >> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
> >> > interested in.
> >> >
> >> > TIP
> >> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
> >> > the
> >> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> > involved.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
> >> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
> >> width.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > .
> >> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> > > .
> >> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> >> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> > MTR's:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
> >> sidewalls,
> >> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else
they
> > can
> >> > >>> sink their claws into."
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> > 30.75"
> >> > >>> diameter.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
> >> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
> >> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats
what
> > is
> >> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
> >> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
> >> > >>>>>> Safari.
> >> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> > tire
> >> I
> >> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience
any
> >> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> > with
> >> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> BM
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
Your formula divides by 100 to convert the ratio to a whole number,
multiplies by 2 for the sidewalls, and divides by 25.4 to convert mm to
inches. This is the same as dividing by 1270. ;-)
Chris
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4amdnUSAFJQmrq7eRVn-uw@ez2.net...
> Where did you come up with 1270?
>
> The correct way to express the formula is ((((A* B)/100) * 2) / 25.4 + C),
> where A = Size, B = Ratio, and C = Rim, and A, B, and C all have the same
> row number, A1, B1, C1, or A2, B2, C2, etc.
>
> The beauty of Excel is that it starts on the left of any expression, and
> applies the functions it encounters as it moves to the right, this might
not
> be correct from a mathematics point of view, but it's predictable and if
you
> expect it to behave that way, then you can write your formula to fit. I
> don't know how it handles rocket science, but my guess is that you can't
get
> to the moon with a ------ sheet, so who cares?
>
> An alternate way to express the tire size calculator is
> A * (B / 100) ...
>
> In this case, it would make the Aspect Ratio into a percentage before it
> multiplied by the size.
>
>
>
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:Vh6Ye.51848$32.15958@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Tomes,
> >
> > You probably entered the aspect ratio as 75 where, with this formula you
> > need to enter it as .75. I simplified the formula to use the aspect
ratio
> > without the decimal point and also condensed all of the conversions
coming
> > up with A2*B2/1270+C2 for the formula. Remember, with this formula, you
> > enter the aspect ratio without the decimal point(i.e. 75 instead of
..75).
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:nE3Ye.1856$QE1.238@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
> >> hmmm. I do this with 225,75 and 15 plugged in and I get an answer of
> >> 1343.74
> >> Formula used: =((A2*B2)*2/25.4+C2)
> >> ?
> >>
> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:QYOdnccVMpVSKa3eRVn-pQ@ez2.net...
> >> > I got it.
> >> >
> >> > I wrote an Excel calculator that lets me plug in the tire dimensions
> >> > and
> >> > arrive at the outside diameter. I just didn't know the dimensions of
> >> > the
> >> > Rubi's tires, and I thought they worked out to 32", not 31".
> >> >
> >> > Try this formula with your calculator
> >> > <tire size, 225, etc.> * <aspect ratio, 70, 75, etc.> * 2 / 25.4 +
<rim
> >> > diameter, 15, 16, etc.> The result is the overall diameter.
> >> >
> >> > If you created a new Excel ------ sheet, you could label the A column
> >> > as
> >> > Size, the B column as Aspect Ratio, and the C column as Rim, and the
D
> >> > column as Outside Diameter. The D column would get the formula
> > =((A2*B2)*2
> >> /
> >> > 25.4 + C2)
> >> >
> >> > The result in the D cells would be the diameter of the tires you are
> >> > interested in.
> >> >
> >> > TIP
> >> > Highlight the D2 cell, and drag the handlebar straight down to apply
> >> > the
> >> > formula with the approriate alterations to account for the Rows
> > involved.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:6c83$43307a5d$d8449845$28280@FUSE.NET...
> >> > > 255-75X16s will give you a 31.1 inch tire with a 10 inch sectional
> >> width.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.4lo.com/calc/gearmetric.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > .
> >> > > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >> > > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >> > > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >> > > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> >> > > .
> >> > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:2umdndYpIr6H663eRVn-tQ@ez2.net...
> >> > >> My bad. I was sure the Rubi got 32s.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:nJqdnaEIHa6NkrLeRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> > >>> From the Jeep.com website, in reference to the Rubicon Goodyear
> > MTR's:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Built with exclusive Durawall triple-ply puncture-resistant
> >> sidewalls,
> >> > >>> these beasty 31-inch tires will grab ledges and anything else
they
> > can
> >> > >>> sink their claws into."
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> In actuality, they are LT245/75R16, which work out to be about
> > 30.75"
> >> > >>> diameter.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>> news:l7idnRDX1sUylLLeRVn-uA@ez2.net...
> >> > >>>> Rubis get a 32.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> "Steve G" <stevncin@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> > >>>> news:nj5Xe.43286$1g2.30326@fe05.lga...
> >> > >>>>> 31x10.5 was what i had on my 97 with no trouble..seems thats
what
> > is
> >> > >>>>> on the Rubicons as well.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> "BM" <smithers340@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>>>> news:432ccd6b.45487718@news.cogeco.ca...
> >> > >>>>>> I've got Goodyear Wrangler 30 x 9.5 inch tires on my stock '02
> >> > >>>>>> Safari.
> >> > >>>>>> Looks like she's due for some new rubber. What's the largest
> > tire
> >> I
> >> > >>>>>> can go to without a body or suspension lift & not experience
any
> >> > >>>>>> problems? Any good tire recommenadtions? No seroius offroading
> > with
> >> > >>>>>> lots of city & highway driving. Thanks!!
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> BM
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>