TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
04-23-2004, 08:47 PM
#1
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TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited has
basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same length
as a Scrambler.
I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging door
(I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the doors
would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't be
too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to the
hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal doesn't
have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier. Also,
since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather than
the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be fabricated
to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought of?
Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
the Unlimited?
basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same length
as a Scrambler.
I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging door
(I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the doors
would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't be
too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to the
hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal doesn't
have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier. Also,
since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather than
the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be fabricated
to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought of?
Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
the Unlimited?
04-23-2004, 09:23 PM
#2
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Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and 35"+
tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
indeed look very cool.
"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't
be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and 35"+
tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
indeed look very cool.
"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't
be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
04-23-2004, 09:23 PM
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Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and 35"+
tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
indeed look very cool.
"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't
be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and 35"+
tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
indeed look very cool.
"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't
be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
04-23-2004, 09:23 PM
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Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and 35"+
tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
indeed look very cool.
"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't
be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and 35"+
tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
indeed look very cool.
"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't
be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
04-23-2004, 09:23 PM
#5
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Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and 35"+
tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
indeed look very cool.
"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't
be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and 35"+
tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
indeed look very cool.
"Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't
be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
04-23-2004, 10:33 PM
#6
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Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
I have to agree....these new models ahve that 'forced' modern look! that
includes the Jeep prototype thing at Detroit (the rescue jeep or the humper
(hummer/jeep!).
The AEV, other than a scrambler, is an awesome lookin rig! I would've
gotten either without hesitating if available.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c6cg7q11euq@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
> very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and
35"+
> tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
>
> It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
> beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
> idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
> pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
> ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
> indeed look very cool.
>
>
> "Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
> has
> > basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> > stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
> length
> > as a Scrambler.
> >
> > I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> > quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> > lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
> >
> > I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
> door
> > (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
> doors
> > would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof
joint
> > to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This
shouldn't
> be
> > too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
> the
> > hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
> doesn't
> > have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped
window
> > opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
> Also,
> > since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
> than
> > the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
> fabricated
> > to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
> >
> > I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
> >
> > What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
> of?
> >
> > Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a
5-speed -
> > don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds
in
> > the Unlimited?
> >
> >
>
>
includes the Jeep prototype thing at Detroit (the rescue jeep or the humper
(hummer/jeep!).
The AEV, other than a scrambler, is an awesome lookin rig! I would've
gotten either without hesitating if available.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c6cg7q11euq@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
> very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and
35"+
> tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
>
> It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
> beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
> idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
> pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
> ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
> indeed look very cool.
>
>
> "Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
> has
> > basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> > stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
> length
> > as a Scrambler.
> >
> > I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> > quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> > lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
> >
> > I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
> door
> > (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
> doors
> > would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof
joint
> > to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This
shouldn't
> be
> > too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
> the
> > hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
> doesn't
> > have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped
window
> > opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
> Also,
> > since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
> than
> > the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
> fabricated
> > to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
> >
> > I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
> >
> > What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
> of?
> >
> > Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a
5-speed -
> > don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds
in
> > the Unlimited?
> >
> >
>
>
04-23-2004, 10:33 PM
#7
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
I have to agree....these new models ahve that 'forced' modern look! that
includes the Jeep prototype thing at Detroit (the rescue jeep or the humper
(hummer/jeep!).
The AEV, other than a scrambler, is an awesome lookin rig! I would've
gotten either without hesitating if available.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c6cg7q11euq@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
> very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and
35"+
> tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
>
> It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
> beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
> idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
> pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
> ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
> indeed look very cool.
>
>
> "Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
> has
> > basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> > stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
> length
> > as a Scrambler.
> >
> > I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> > quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> > lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
> >
> > I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
> door
> > (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
> doors
> > would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof
joint
> > to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This
shouldn't
> be
> > too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
> the
> > hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
> doesn't
> > have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped
window
> > opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
> Also,
> > since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
> than
> > the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
> fabricated
> > to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
> >
> > I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
> >
> > What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
> of?
> >
> > Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a
5-speed -
> > don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds
in
> > the Unlimited?
> >
> >
>
>
includes the Jeep prototype thing at Detroit (the rescue jeep or the humper
(hummer/jeep!).
The AEV, other than a scrambler, is an awesome lookin rig! I would've
gotten either without hesitating if available.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c6cg7q11euq@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
> very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and
35"+
> tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
>
> It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
> beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
> idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
> pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
> ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
> indeed look very cool.
>
>
> "Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
> has
> > basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> > stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
> length
> > as a Scrambler.
> >
> > I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> > quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> > lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
> >
> > I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
> door
> > (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
> doors
> > would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof
joint
> > to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This
shouldn't
> be
> > too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
> the
> > hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
> doesn't
> > have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped
window
> > opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
> Also,
> > since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
> than
> > the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
> fabricated
> > to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
> >
> > I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
> >
> > What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
> of?
> >
> > Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a
5-speed -
> > don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds
in
> > the Unlimited?
> >
> >
>
>
04-23-2004, 10:33 PM
#8
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
I have to agree....these new models ahve that 'forced' modern look! that
includes the Jeep prototype thing at Detroit (the rescue jeep or the humper
(hummer/jeep!).
The AEV, other than a scrambler, is an awesome lookin rig! I would've
gotten either without hesitating if available.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c6cg7q11euq@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
> very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and
35"+
> tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
>
> It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
> beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
> idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
> pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
> ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
> indeed look very cool.
>
>
> "Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
> has
> > basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> > stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
> length
> > as a Scrambler.
> >
> > I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> > quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> > lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
> >
> > I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
> door
> > (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
> doors
> > would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof
joint
> > to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This
shouldn't
> be
> > too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
> the
> > hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
> doesn't
> > have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped
window
> > opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
> Also,
> > since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
> than
> > the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
> fabricated
> > to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
> >
> > I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
> >
> > What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
> of?
> >
> > Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a
5-speed -
> > don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds
in
> > the Unlimited?
> >
> >
>
>
includes the Jeep prototype thing at Detroit (the rescue jeep or the humper
(hummer/jeep!).
The AEV, other than a scrambler, is an awesome lookin rig! I would've
gotten either without hesitating if available.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c6cg7q11euq@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
> very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and
35"+
> tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
>
> It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
> beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
> idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
> pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
> ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
> indeed look very cool.
>
>
> "Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
> has
> > basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> > stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
> length
> > as a Scrambler.
> >
> > I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> > quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> > lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
> >
> > I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
> door
> > (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
> doors
> > would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof
joint
> > to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This
shouldn't
> be
> > too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
> the
> > hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
> doesn't
> > have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped
window
> > opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
> Also,
> > since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
> than
> > the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
> fabricated
> > to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
> >
> > I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
> >
> > What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
> of?
> >
> > Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a
5-speed -
> > don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds
in
> > the Unlimited?
> >
> >
>
>
04-23-2004, 10:33 PM
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
I have to agree....these new models ahve that 'forced' modern look! that
includes the Jeep prototype thing at Detroit (the rescue jeep or the humper
(hummer/jeep!).
The AEV, other than a scrambler, is an awesome lookin rig! I would've
gotten either without hesitating if available.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c6cg7q11euq@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
> very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and
35"+
> tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
>
> It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
> beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
> idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
> pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
> ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
> indeed look very cool.
>
>
> "Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
> has
> > basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> > stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
> length
> > as a Scrambler.
> >
> > I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> > quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> > lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
> >
> > I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
> door
> > (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
> doors
> > would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof
joint
> > to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This
shouldn't
> be
> > too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
> the
> > hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
> doesn't
> > have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped
window
> > opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
> Also,
> > since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
> than
> > the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
> fabricated
> > to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
> >
> > I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
> >
> > What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
> of?
> >
> > Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a
5-speed -
> > don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds
in
> > the Unlimited?
> >
> >
>
>
includes the Jeep prototype thing at Detroit (the rescue jeep or the humper
(hummer/jeep!).
The AEV, other than a scrambler, is an awesome lookin rig! I would've
gotten either without hesitating if available.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c6cg7q11euq@enews1.newsguy.com...
> I was just looking one of these over at my local Jeep dealer today. It's a
> very intersting vehicle, that COULD look superb with a proper lift and
35"+
> tires. But, as it was I thought it looked like $#!t!
>
> It looks like something they got half way through, and then some
> beancounters or marketing dumbasses made them change it based upon some
> idiotic focus group input. Their concept SHOULD have been the "Brute"
> pickup, instead, I'm not sure WTF that thing is. All that being said, the
> ones we saw at Moab that had been lifted and fitted with proper tires did
> indeed look very cool.
>
>
> "Jeff Scherb" <jscherb@stny.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:mOiic.82110$M3.80556@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited
> has
> > basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> > stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same
> length
> > as a Scrambler.
> >
> > I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> > quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> > lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
> >
> > I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging
> door
> > (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the
> doors
> > would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof
joint
> > to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This
shouldn't
> be
> > too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to
> the
> > hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal
> doesn't
> > have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped
window
> > opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier.
> Also,
> > since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather
> than
> > the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be
> fabricated
> > to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
> >
> > I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
> >
> > What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought
> of?
> >
> > Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a
5-speed -
> > don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds
in
> > the Unlimited?
> >
> >
>
>
04-25-2004, 01:07 PM
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Scrambler project - comments wanted
Don't think the hardtop will fit, even with a lengthened tub.
Jeff Scherb wrote:
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier. Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Jeff Scherb wrote:
> Here's a project I'm thinking about doing: since the Wrangler Unlimited has
> basically the same wheelbase as the old Scrambler, take an Unlimited,
> stretch the bed behind the rear wheels about 11" to make it the same length
> as a Scrambler.
>
> I think lengthening the bed can be done with some replacement CJ-8 rear
> quarter panels, lengthening the bed floor (not sure what with yet),
> lengthening frame rails, tailpipe and taillight wiring.
>
> I would use an Alaskan Postal World Cab steel hardtop and rear swinging door
> (I happen to have one sitting in my garage). The hardtop roof over the doors
> would need to be shortened about 1-2" as necessary at the first roof joint
> to accommodate the higher rake angle of the TJ windshield. This shouldn't be
> too hard, since the top can be disassembled. I would add side windows to the
> hardtop like the Australian Overlander hardtop - the Alaskan Postal doesn't
> have side windows. Probably can get windows made to fit the stamped window
> opening in the inside steel panel of the hardtop from an RV supplier. Also,
> since the World Cab hardtop had doors with square upper corners rather than
> the TJ door's round corners, a small gusset would also have to be fabricated
> to fill the corner so the door would seal properly.
>
> I've drawn a mock-up: http://home.stny.rr.com/jscherb/tjscrambler.jpg
>
> What do you think? Can you think of any complications I haven't thought of?
>
> Of course, I have to wait until Jeep builds an Unlimited with a 5-speed -
> don't want no stinkin' automatic :-). Anyone heard any word on 5-speeds in
> the Unlimited?
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________