TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
09-12-2006, 12:52 AM
#1
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TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
Thanks,
Cliff
splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
Thanks,
Cliff
09-12-2006, 09:20 AM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The new style 2 piece adjustment plug Saganaw uses on the steering shaft
end is very prone to seal failure. You can just buy the seal and
replace it, but a local steering and suspension shop told me that the
best fix was to use the old style single piece plug with a new seal.
They had some and gave us one for the last one I helped a friend fix.
You could just have a hose fitting loose also. A good clean and a
careful watch should tell you where it's leaking.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
CD wrote:
>
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
end is very prone to seal failure. You can just buy the seal and
replace it, but a local steering and suspension shop told me that the
best fix was to use the old style single piece plug with a new seal.
They had some and gave us one for the last one I helped a friend fix.
You could just have a hose fitting loose also. A good clean and a
careful watch should tell you where it's leaking.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
CD wrote:
>
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
09-12-2006, 09:20 AM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The new style 2 piece adjustment plug Saganaw uses on the steering shaft
end is very prone to seal failure. You can just buy the seal and
replace it, but a local steering and suspension shop told me that the
best fix was to use the old style single piece plug with a new seal.
They had some and gave us one for the last one I helped a friend fix.
You could just have a hose fitting loose also. A good clean and a
careful watch should tell you where it's leaking.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
CD wrote:
>
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
end is very prone to seal failure. You can just buy the seal and
replace it, but a local steering and suspension shop told me that the
best fix was to use the old style single piece plug with a new seal.
They had some and gave us one for the last one I helped a friend fix.
You could just have a hose fitting loose also. A good clean and a
careful watch should tell you where it's leaking.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
CD wrote:
>
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
09-12-2006, 09:20 AM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The new style 2 piece adjustment plug Saganaw uses on the steering shaft
end is very prone to seal failure. You can just buy the seal and
replace it, but a local steering and suspension shop told me that the
best fix was to use the old style single piece plug with a new seal.
They had some and gave us one for the last one I helped a friend fix.
You could just have a hose fitting loose also. A good clean and a
careful watch should tell you where it's leaking.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
CD wrote:
>
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
end is very prone to seal failure. You can just buy the seal and
replace it, but a local steering and suspension shop told me that the
best fix was to use the old style single piece plug with a new seal.
They had some and gave us one for the last one I helped a friend fix.
You could just have a hose fitting loose also. A good clean and a
careful watch should tell you where it's leaking.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
CD wrote:
>
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
09-12-2006, 07:40 PM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The symptom where you have splatter on the hood indicates the leak is in the
area near the fan, like around the pump. Look at the back side of the pump
where the hoses connect. Although Mike is correct on the "prone to seal
failure", input shaft leaks typically just soak the gear box and drip to the
ground (I just replaced my TJ gear box a few months ago). The pump is much
easier to repair than the box.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"CD" <cd@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
>
>
area near the fan, like around the pump. Look at the back side of the pump
where the hoses connect. Although Mike is correct on the "prone to seal
failure", input shaft leaks typically just soak the gear box and drip to the
ground (I just replaced my TJ gear box a few months ago). The pump is much
easier to repair than the box.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"CD" <cd@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42rNg.950$7I1.526@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net. ..
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
>
>
09-12-2006, 07:40 PM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The symptom where you have splatter on the hood indicates the leak is in the
area near the fan, like around the pump. Look at the back side of the pump
where the hoses connect. Although Mike is correct on the "prone to seal
failure", input shaft leaks typically just soak the gear box and drip to the
ground (I just replaced my TJ gear box a few months ago). The pump is much
easier to repair than the box.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"CD" <cd@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42rNg.950$7I1.526@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net. ..
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
>
>
area near the fan, like around the pump. Look at the back side of the pump
where the hoses connect. Although Mike is correct on the "prone to seal
failure", input shaft leaks typically just soak the gear box and drip to the
ground (I just replaced my TJ gear box a few months ago). The pump is much
easier to repair than the box.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"CD" <cd@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42rNg.950$7I1.526@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net. ..
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
>
>
09-12-2006, 07:40 PM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The symptom where you have splatter on the hood indicates the leak is in the
area near the fan, like around the pump. Look at the back side of the pump
where the hoses connect. Although Mike is correct on the "prone to seal
failure", input shaft leaks typically just soak the gear box and drip to the
ground (I just replaced my TJ gear box a few months ago). The pump is much
easier to repair than the box.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"CD" <cd@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42rNg.950$7I1.526@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net. ..
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
>
>
area near the fan, like around the pump. Look at the back side of the pump
where the hoses connect. Although Mike is correct on the "prone to seal
failure", input shaft leaks typically just soak the gear box and drip to the
ground (I just replaced my TJ gear box a few months ago). The pump is much
easier to repair than the box.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
Warn X8000i
"CD" <cd@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:42rNg.950$7I1.526@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net. ..
> I've got new marks on the ground, just below the steering gear box; and
> splatter marks on the underside of the hood just above the power steering
> fluid reservoir. I see no obvious leak points in this area (but the bottom
> of the gear box is wet). The fluid level was a little low (not dry). I
> added some fluid and it seems to steer as always. But, I'm still getting
> dripping - not exactly sure of the leak point.
>
> It's a stock 2000 TJ with 70k miles. It is driven on the weekends. It was
> out for a few hours of off-roading last weekend in very hot weather. I
> noticed no problems at that time. Any ideas on the likely problem - bad
> pump, seals, gear box problem? How difficult to fix?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cliff
>
>
09-12-2006, 08:10 PM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The power steering pump shaft takes a special puller to remove the
pulley: http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/...pspulley-1.htm
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pulley: http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/...pspulley-1.htm
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09-12-2006, 08:10 PM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The power steering pump shaft takes a special puller to remove the
pulley: http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/...pspulley-1.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
pulley: http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/...pspulley-1.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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09-12-2006, 08:10 PM
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Re: TJ Power Steering Fluid Leak
The power steering pump shaft takes a special puller to remove the
pulley: http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/...pspulley-1.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
pulley: http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/...pspulley-1.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/