Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
>>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
>>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
>>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
>>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
>>>>two options I am considering:
>>
>>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
>>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
>>>>mentioned
>>>>tires with that setup?
>>
>>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
>>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
>>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>>
>>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
>>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
>>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
>>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
>>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
>>>>lift and the body lift?
>>
>>>>THANKS
>>
>>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
>>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
>>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
>>>at wheels and rims. :)
>>
>>>don't go with body lift.
>>
>>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
>>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
>>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
>>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
>>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
>>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
>>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
>>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
>>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
>>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
>>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
>>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
>>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
>>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
>>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
>>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
>>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>>
>>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
>>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
>>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
>>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
>>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
>>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
>>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
> originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>

Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)

tw

Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

On Jul 31, 1:25 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
> >>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
> >>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
> >>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
> >>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
> >>>>two options I am considering:
>
> >>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
> >>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
> >>>>mentioned
> >>>>tires with that setup?
>
> >>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
> >>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
> >>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>
> >>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
> >>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
> >>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
> >>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
> >>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
> >>>>lift and the body lift?
>
> >>>>THANKS
>
> >>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
> >>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
> >>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
> >>>at wheels and rims. :)
>
> >>>don't go with body lift.
>
> >>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
> >>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
> >>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
> >>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>- Show quoted text -
>
> >>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
> >>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
> >>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
> >>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
> >>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
> >>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
> >>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
> >>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
> >>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
> >>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
> >>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
> >>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
> >>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
> >>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>
> >>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
> >>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
> >>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
> >>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
> >>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
> >>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
> >>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>- Show quoted text -
>
> > OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
> > originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>
> Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
> BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
> backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
> of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
> 12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
> appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)
>
> tw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Skinny look is not appealing to me either. Now how about the CV
driveshaft and the SYE....will they need to be replaced with the 4
inch suspension lift? As previously mentioned, 95% of my driving will
be highway. I have been told that I will NOT need to replace them if
I am NOT doing any extreme off-roading. Then, others that I have
talked to have told me I will need to have them replaced. Any light
on this topic?

Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

On Jul 31, 1:25 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
> >>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
> >>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
> >>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
> >>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
> >>>>two options I am considering:
>
> >>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
> >>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
> >>>>mentioned
> >>>>tires with that setup?
>
> >>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
> >>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
> >>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>
> >>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
> >>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
> >>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
> >>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
> >>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
> >>>>lift and the body lift?
>
> >>>>THANKS
>
> >>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
> >>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
> >>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
> >>>at wheels and rims. :)
>
> >>>don't go with body lift.
>
> >>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
> >>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
> >>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
> >>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>- Show quoted text -
>
> >>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
> >>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
> >>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
> >>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
> >>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
> >>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
> >>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
> >>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
> >>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
> >>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
> >>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
> >>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
> >>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
> >>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>
> >>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
> >>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
> >>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
> >>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
> >>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
> >>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
> >>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>- Show quoted text -
>
> > OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
> > originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>
> Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
> BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
> backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
> of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
> 12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
> appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)
>
> tw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Skinny look is not appealing to me either. Now how about the CV
driveshaft and the SYE....will they need to be replaced with the 4
inch suspension lift? As previously mentioned, 95% of my driving will
be highway. I have been told that I will NOT need to replace them if
I am NOT doing any extreme off-roading. Then, others that I have
talked to have told me I will need to have them replaced. Any light
on this topic?

Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

On Jul 31, 1:25 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
> >>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
> >>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
> >>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
> >>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
> >>>>two options I am considering:
>
> >>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
> >>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
> >>>>mentioned
> >>>>tires with that setup?
>
> >>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
> >>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
> >>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>
> >>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
> >>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
> >>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
> >>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
> >>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
> >>>>lift and the body lift?
>
> >>>>THANKS
>
> >>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
> >>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
> >>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
> >>>at wheels and rims. :)
>
> >>>don't go with body lift.
>
> >>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
> >>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
> >>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
> >>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>- Show quoted text -
>
> >>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
> >>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
> >>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
> >>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
> >>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
> >>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
> >>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
> >>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
> >>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
> >>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
> >>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
> >>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
> >>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
> >>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>
> >>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
> >>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
> >>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
> >>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
> >>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
> >>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
> >>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>- Show quoted text -
>
> > OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
> > originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>
> Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
> BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
> backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
> of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
> 12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
> appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)
>
> tw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Skinny look is not appealing to me either. Now how about the CV
driveshaft and the SYE....will they need to be replaced with the 4
inch suspension lift? As previously mentioned, 95% of my driving will
be highway. I have been told that I will NOT need to replace them if
I am NOT doing any extreme off-roading. Then, others that I have
talked to have told me I will need to have them replaced. Any light
on this topic?

Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

On Jul 31, 1:25 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
> >>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
> >>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
> >>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
> >>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
> >>>>two options I am considering:
>
> >>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
> >>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
> >>>>mentioned
> >>>>tires with that setup?
>
> >>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
> >>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
> >>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>
> >>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
> >>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
> >>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
> >>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
> >>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
> >>>>lift and the body lift?
>
> >>>>THANKS
>
> >>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
> >>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
> >>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
> >>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
> >>>at wheels and rims. :)
>
> >>>don't go with body lift.
>
> >>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
> >>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
> >>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
> >>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>- Show quoted text -
>
> >>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
> >>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
> >>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
> >>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
> >>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
> >>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
> >>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
> >>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
> >>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
> >>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
> >>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
> >>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
> >>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
> >>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>
> >>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
> >>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
> >>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
> >>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
> >>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
> >>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
> >>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>- Show quoted text -
>
> > OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
> > originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>
> Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
> BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
> backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
> of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
> 12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
> appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)
>
> tw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Skinny look is not appealing to me either. Now how about the CV
driveshaft and the SYE....will they need to be replaced with the 4
inch suspension lift? As previously mentioned, 95% of my driving will
be highway. I have been told that I will NOT need to replace them if
I am NOT doing any extreme off-roading. Then, others that I have
talked to have told me I will need to have them replaced. Any light
on this topic?

Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 31, 1:25 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>>Tracie wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
>>>>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
>>>>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
>>>>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
>>>>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
>>>>>>two options I am considering:
>>
>>>>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
>>>>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
>>>>>>mentioned
>>>>>>tires with that setup?
>>
>>>>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
>>>>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
>>>>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>>
>>>>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
>>>>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
>>>>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
>>>>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
>>>>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
>>>>>>lift and the body lift?
>>
>>>>>>THANKS
>>
>>>>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
>>>>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
>>>>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
>>>>>at wheels and rims. :)
>>
>>>>>don't go with body lift.
>>
>>>>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
>>>>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
>>>>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
>>>>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
>>>>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
>>>>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
>>>>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
>>>>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
>>>>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
>>>>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
>>>>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
>>>>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
>>>>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
>>>>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
>>>>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
>>>>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
>>>>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>>
>>>>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
>>>>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
>>>>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
>>>>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
>>>>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
>>>>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
>>>>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
>>>originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>>
>>Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
>>BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
>>backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
>>of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
>>12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
>>appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)
>>
>>tw- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> Skinny look is not appealing to me either. Now how about the CV
> driveshaft and the SYE....will they need to be replaced with the 4
> inch suspension lift? As previously mentioned, 95% of my driving will
> be highway. I have been told that I will NOT need to replace them if
> I am NOT doing any extreme off-roading. Then, others that I have
> talked to have told me I will need to have them replaced. Any light
> on this topic?
>

Offroading has _NO_ affect on whether or not you need a CV driveshaft or
not. What happens when you lift the Jeep up is that it pulls the body,
motor, transfer case, etc. away from your axles and increases the angle
of the driveshaft which creates vibrations when it rotates (driving). CV
shaft are specifically designed for this acute angling and are the best
method of eliminating this issue. Whether or not you will need one will
depend on your specific Jeep. Odds are you will need one above 2". Now,
some people get away with lowering the transfer case to lessen this
angle, and you can try this first, but do not drive with these vibes as
your driveshaft will decide on it's own when it will let go from your
Jeep. Plan on the expense.

I think your choice in the 4" lift & 33s is a good one. I think it is a
very nice look for the TJ. Cutting corners may cause you problems down
the road, but some Jeepers get lucky. Expect vibes on any lift over 2"
and don't be surprised if they rear their ugliness at 2" as well.

Again, my advice is to save your pennies and don't get into a rush to
lift. Do it right, do it once.

tw

Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 31, 1:25 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>>Tracie wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
>>>>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
>>>>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
>>>>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
>>>>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
>>>>>>two options I am considering:
>>
>>>>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
>>>>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
>>>>>>mentioned
>>>>>>tires with that setup?
>>
>>>>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
>>>>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
>>>>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>>
>>>>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
>>>>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
>>>>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
>>>>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
>>>>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
>>>>>>lift and the body lift?
>>
>>>>>>THANKS
>>
>>>>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
>>>>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
>>>>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
>>>>>at wheels and rims. :)
>>
>>>>>don't go with body lift.
>>
>>>>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
>>>>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
>>>>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
>>>>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
>>>>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
>>>>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
>>>>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
>>>>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
>>>>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
>>>>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
>>>>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
>>>>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
>>>>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
>>>>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
>>>>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
>>>>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
>>>>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>>
>>>>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
>>>>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
>>>>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
>>>>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
>>>>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
>>>>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
>>>>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
>>>originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>>
>>Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
>>BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
>>backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
>>of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
>>12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
>>appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)
>>
>>tw- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> Skinny look is not appealing to me either. Now how about the CV
> driveshaft and the SYE....will they need to be replaced with the 4
> inch suspension lift? As previously mentioned, 95% of my driving will
> be highway. I have been told that I will NOT need to replace them if
> I am NOT doing any extreme off-roading. Then, others that I have
> talked to have told me I will need to have them replaced. Any light
> on this topic?
>

Offroading has _NO_ affect on whether or not you need a CV driveshaft or
not. What happens when you lift the Jeep up is that it pulls the body,
motor, transfer case, etc. away from your axles and increases the angle
of the driveshaft which creates vibrations when it rotates (driving). CV
shaft are specifically designed for this acute angling and are the best
method of eliminating this issue. Whether or not you will need one will
depend on your specific Jeep. Odds are you will need one above 2". Now,
some people get away with lowering the transfer case to lessen this
angle, and you can try this first, but do not drive with these vibes as
your driveshaft will decide on it's own when it will let go from your
Jeep. Plan on the expense.

I think your choice in the 4" lift & 33s is a good one. I think it is a
very nice look for the TJ. Cutting corners may cause you problems down
the road, but some Jeepers get lucky. Expect vibes on any lift over 2"
and don't be surprised if they rear their ugliness at 2" as well.

Again, my advice is to save your pennies and don't get into a rush to
lift. Do it right, do it once.

tw

Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 31, 1:25 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>>Tracie wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
>>>>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
>>>>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
>>>>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
>>>>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
>>>>>>two options I am considering:
>>
>>>>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
>>>>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
>>>>>>mentioned
>>>>>>tires with that setup?
>>
>>>>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
>>>>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
>>>>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>>
>>>>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
>>>>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
>>>>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
>>>>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
>>>>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
>>>>>>lift and the body lift?
>>
>>>>>>THANKS
>>
>>>>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
>>>>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
>>>>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
>>>>>at wheels and rims. :)
>>
>>>>>don't go with body lift.
>>
>>>>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
>>>>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
>>>>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
>>>>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
>>>>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
>>>>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
>>>>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
>>>>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
>>>>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
>>>>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
>>>>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
>>>>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
>>>>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
>>>>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
>>>>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
>>>>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
>>>>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>>
>>>>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
>>>>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
>>>>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
>>>>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
>>>>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
>>>>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
>>>>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
>>>originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>>
>>Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
>>BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
>>backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
>>of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
>>12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
>>appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)
>>
>>tw- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> Skinny look is not appealing to me either. Now how about the CV
> driveshaft and the SYE....will they need to be replaced with the 4
> inch suspension lift? As previously mentioned, 95% of my driving will
> be highway. I have been told that I will NOT need to replace them if
> I am NOT doing any extreme off-roading. Then, others that I have
> talked to have told me I will need to have them replaced. Any light
> on this topic?
>

Offroading has _NO_ affect on whether or not you need a CV driveshaft or
not. What happens when you lift the Jeep up is that it pulls the body,
motor, transfer case, etc. away from your axles and increases the angle
of the driveshaft which creates vibrations when it rotates (driving). CV
shaft are specifically designed for this acute angling and are the best
method of eliminating this issue. Whether or not you will need one will
depend on your specific Jeep. Odds are you will need one above 2". Now,
some people get away with lowering the transfer case to lessen this
angle, and you can try this first, but do not drive with these vibes as
your driveshaft will decide on it's own when it will let go from your
Jeep. Plan on the expense.

I think your choice in the 4" lift & 33s is a good one. I think it is a
very nice look for the TJ. Cutting corners may cause you problems down
the road, but some Jeepers get lucky. Expect vibes on any lift over 2"
and don't be surprised if they rear their ugliness at 2" as well.

Again, my advice is to save your pennies and don't get into a rush to
lift. Do it right, do it once.

tw

Re: TJ LIFT KIT -- HELP PLEASE
 

Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 31, 1:25 pm, twaldron <d...@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>>Tracie wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 31, 11:05 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>On Jul 30, 11:58 pm, ULB <ultralightbackpac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Jul 30, 8:18 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Hello all. I know you've probably heard this question a million
>>>>>>times, but here goes. I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed
>>>>>>manual tranny and A/C. I want to lift my jeep, but I don't want to
>>>>>>spend a lot of money on replacing the CV driveshaft and SYE kit. My
>>>>>>goal is to fit 33 X 10.5 or 33 X 11.5 tires on my jeep. Here are the
>>>>>>two options I am considering:
>>
>>>>>>1. If I get a 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift, would I
>>>>>>need to replace the driveshaft and SYE? Can I fit the above
>>>>>>mentioned
>>>>>>tires with that setup?
>>
>>>>>>2. I am also considering a 3 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body
>>>>>>lift. Would I need to replace the driveshaft or SYE if I go this
>>>>>>route? Can I still fit the above mentioned tires?
>>
>>>>>>What parts do I absolutely need to have in the lift kits to prevent
>>>>>>future problems with either lift? I do NOT plan on doing extreme
>>>>>>wheeling -- just a splash in the mud and some occasional trails. This
>>>>>>is my daily driver, and I do a lot of highway driving. Can someone
>>>>>>recommend a good reliable lift kit that includes both the suspension
>>>>>>lift and the body lift?
>>
>>>>>>THANKS
>>
>>>>>Go with what TWaldron is stating. I have the Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>>>>short arm with OME nitro chargers, 33x12.5 (3.75" back space). Loving
>>>>>it. Of course I do have the double cardan shaft. Its only a few
>>>>>hundred more, worth the money IMHO. Drop in the bucket when looking
>>>>>at wheels and rims. :)
>>
>>>>>don't go with body lift.
>>
>>>>>No worries on the ride quality, mine is way better than stock other
>>>>>than cornering. I currently have 4.11 gearing. No idea what you have
>>>>>but keep that in mind. You don't want a dog on the road. Anyway,
>>>>>take care,- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>OK. I have decided to go with a 4 inch suspension lift with springs
>>>>not spacers. The only reason I would like to add a 1 inch body lift
>>>>on top of the 4 inch suspension lift is to be able to clear 33 X 11.5
>>>>X 15 tires. Will I be able to do this with just the 4 inch suspension
>>>>lift without the 1 inch body lift and not have to worry about
>>>>rubbing? My only concern is when I go with the 4 inch suspension
>>>>lift, do I also need to replace the CV driveshaft and the SYE? I am
>>>>only willing to spend about 500-600 dollars on a lift kit (prior to
>>>>labor expense), and I have a wonderful knowlegeable mechanic that is
>>>>very inexpensive who will put the lift on for me ($45/hr). The reason
>>>>I want the lift is mainly for looks. Stock look is just not doing it
>>>>for me. I like the "beefy" stance, hence the lift and bigger tires.
>>>>As for spring rate, I am not going to load down my jeep, and I do not
>>>>have a hardtop. I have the soft top.
>>
>>>>Now....the question I have is this: Will a 4 inch suspension lift and
>>>>33 X 11.5 X 15(or even 10.5) tires make a big difference in the
>>>>overall look of the jeep? The tires I want are the BF Goodrich All
>>>>Terrain Mud Tires. According to some info I found on the internet, I
>>>>shouldn't have to buy new wheels as my stock are 15 X 8, and the 33 X
>>>>10.5 X 15 will fit anything from a 15 X 7 to a 15 X 9 rim. Can
>>>>someone tell me what brands of lift to stay away from?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>- Show quoted text -
>>
>>>OK....well as far as budget goes, I am able to spend more than I
>>>originally thought. I can go as high as $700.
>>
>>Yes, a 4" lift is perfect for 33s. Now, you also have to take wheel
>>BACKSPACING into consideration when mounting larger tires. A good
>>backspacing for 33x12.50s is about 4", give or take a quarter inch. Most
>>of the Jeep factory wheels have about 5-5.25" which is too much for the
>>12.50s. 10.50s will buy you an inch, but the skinny look is not
>>appealing to me. Lifting is never a cheap endeavor, it's a can of worms. :)
>>
>>tw- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> Skinny look is not appealing to me either. Now how about the CV
> driveshaft and the SYE....will they need to be replaced with the 4
> inch suspension lift? As previously mentioned, 95% of my driving will
> be highway. I have been told that I will NOT need to replace them if
> I am NOT doing any extreme off-roading. Then, others that I have
> talked to have told me I will need to have them replaced. Any light
> on this topic?
>

Offroading has _NO_ affect on whether or not you need a CV driveshaft or
not. What happens when you lift the Jeep up is that it pulls the body,
motor, transfer case, etc. away from your axles and increases the angle
of the driveshaft which creates vibrations when it rotates (driving). CV
shaft are specifically designed for this acute angling and are the best
method of eliminating this issue. Whether or not you will need one will
depend on your specific Jeep. Odds are you will need one above 2". Now,
some people get away with lowering the transfer case to lessen this
angle, and you can try this first, but do not drive with these vibes as
your driveshaft will decide on it's own when it will let go from your
Jeep. Plan on the expense.

I think your choice in the 4" lift & 33s is a good one. I think it is a
very nice look for the TJ. Cutting corners may cause you problems down
the road, but some Jeepers get lucky. Expect vibes on any lift over 2"
and don't be surprised if they rear their ugliness at 2" as well.

Again, my advice is to save your pennies and don't get into a rush to
lift. Do it right, do it once.

tw