Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

You may need to replace your steering box, tie rod ends, ball
joints, wheel bearings, and Universal Joints, and out of align, but it
can't shimmy without a weak steering dampener. You may need two cover up
your modifications:
http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/m...ode=sus_tj_kit
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

silberj wrote:
>
> I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

You may need to replace your steering box, tie rod ends, ball
joints, wheel bearings, and Universal Joints, and out of align, but it
can't shimmy without a weak steering dampener. You may need two cover up
your modifications:
http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/m...ode=sus_tj_kit
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

silberj wrote:
>
> I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> writes:

> You are 'soooo' lucky you didn't explode anything!!!!
>
> I have seen a transfer case blown in half from doing that......
>
> With your part time 4x4 system, the front and rear wheels are locked
> together. When you corner, the wheels travel different distances so one
> wheel has to scuff the ground or the drivetrain winds up and something
> breaks....
>
> I would for sure be looking close at the track bar bushings. You can do
> it sitting in the seat. Put your head stable and eyeball something on
> the ground that lines up with any crease or mark on your hood, the cut
> the wheels side to side and watch. If the object moves, the track bar
> has issues. That means the nose of the Jeep is moving side to side with
> the steering, not the wheels just turning left to right.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

With a TJ, you can go into 4Hi at highway speed even on the
highway. The owner's manual says as much. A shift into 4Lo requires a
speed of less than 3MPH.

If his rear diff is a limited-slip, that would account for the
reduction in "shimmy" since the LSD tends to resist a change in
direction favoring a a straight line instead.
--

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> writes:

> You are 'soooo' lucky you didn't explode anything!!!!
>
> I have seen a transfer case blown in half from doing that......
>
> With your part time 4x4 system, the front and rear wheels are locked
> together. When you corner, the wheels travel different distances so one
> wheel has to scuff the ground or the drivetrain winds up and something
> breaks....
>
> I would for sure be looking close at the track bar bushings. You can do
> it sitting in the seat. Put your head stable and eyeball something on
> the ground that lines up with any crease or mark on your hood, the cut
> the wheels side to side and watch. If the object moves, the track bar
> has issues. That means the nose of the Jeep is moving side to side with
> the steering, not the wheels just turning left to right.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

With a TJ, you can go into 4Hi at highway speed even on the
highway. The owner's manual says as much. A shift into 4Lo requires a
speed of less than 3MPH.

If his rear diff is a limited-slip, that would account for the
reduction in "shimmy" since the LSD tends to resist a change in
direction favoring a a straight line instead.
--

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> writes:

> You are 'soooo' lucky you didn't explode anything!!!!
>
> I have seen a transfer case blown in half from doing that......
>
> With your part time 4x4 system, the front and rear wheels are locked
> together. When you corner, the wheels travel different distances so one
> wheel has to scuff the ground or the drivetrain winds up and something
> breaks....
>
> I would for sure be looking close at the track bar bushings. You can do
> it sitting in the seat. Put your head stable and eyeball something on
> the ground that lines up with any crease or mark on your hood, the cut
> the wheels side to side and watch. If the object moves, the track bar
> has issues. That means the nose of the Jeep is moving side to side with
> the steering, not the wheels just turning left to right.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

With a TJ, you can go into 4Hi at highway speed even on the
highway. The owner's manual says as much. A shift into 4Lo requires a
speed of less than 3MPH.

If his rear diff is a limited-slip, that would account for the
reduction in "shimmy" since the LSD tends to resist a change in
direction favoring a a straight line instead.
--

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

What drugs are you on these days Bill? I think you might want to have
the affects checked out.....

He stated below he recently changed the steering damper and that didn't
help...

Mike

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You may need to replace your steering box, tie rod ends, ball
> joints, wheel bearings, and Universal Joints, and out of align, but it
> can't shimmy without a weak steering dampener. You may need two cover up
> your modifications:
> http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/m...ode=sus_tj_kit
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> silberj wrote:
> >
> > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

What drugs are you on these days Bill? I think you might want to have
the affects checked out.....

He stated below he recently changed the steering damper and that didn't
help...

Mike

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You may need to replace your steering box, tie rod ends, ball
> joints, wheel bearings, and Universal Joints, and out of align, but it
> can't shimmy without a weak steering dampener. You may need two cover up
> your modifications:
> http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/m...ode=sus_tj_kit
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> silberj wrote:
> >
> > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

What drugs are you on these days Bill? I think you might want to have
the affects checked out.....

He stated below he recently changed the steering damper and that didn't
help...

Mike

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You may need to replace your steering box, tie rod ends, ball
> joints, wheel bearings, and Universal Joints, and out of align, but it
> can't shimmy without a weak steering dampener. You may need two cover up
> your modifications:
> http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/m...ode=sus_tj_kit
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> silberj wrote:
> >
> > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> writes:
>
> > You are 'soooo' lucky you didn't explode anything!!!!
> >
> > I have seen a transfer case blown in half from doing that......
> >
> > With your part time 4x4 system, the front and rear wheels are locked
> > together. When you corner, the wheels travel different distances so one
> > wheel has to scuff the ground or the drivetrain winds up and something
> > breaks....
> >
> > I would for sure be looking close at the track bar bushings. You can do
> > it sitting in the seat. Put your head stable and eyeball something on
> > the ground that lines up with any crease or mark on your hood, the cut
> > the wheels side to side and watch. If the object moves, the track bar
> > has issues. That means the nose of the Jeep is moving side to side with
> > the steering, not the wheels just turning left to right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
>
> With a TJ, you can go into 4Hi at highway speed even on the
> highway. The owner's manual says as much. A shift into 4Lo requires a
> speed of less than 3MPH.
>
> If his rear diff is a limited-slip, that would account for the
> reduction in "shimmy" since the LSD tends to resist a change in
> direction favoring a a straight line instead.
> --

Sure you can 'shift on the fly into 4 high' on almost any Jeep on the
road these days including my 86 CJ7, the problem is the wheels 'must'
scuff the ground in order to not explode parts on the TJ's 'Part Time'
4x4 system if you vary from dead straight ahead.

Driveshafts turn into pretzels doing that if you are only lucky. If you
are 'very very' lucky you only explode a u-joint, not take out the yokes
too, my old roommate blew his t-case in half, literally, doing that....
Too much traction!!!

You only are supposed to go into 'Part Time' 4x4 when the roads are
slippery. Dirt or snow works fine, dry pavement doesn't...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 

Daniel Bibbens wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> writes:
>
> > You are 'soooo' lucky you didn't explode anything!!!!
> >
> > I have seen a transfer case blown in half from doing that......
> >
> > With your part time 4x4 system, the front and rear wheels are locked
> > together. When you corner, the wheels travel different distances so one
> > wheel has to scuff the ground or the drivetrain winds up and something
> > breaks....
> >
> > I would for sure be looking close at the track bar bushings. You can do
> > it sitting in the seat. Put your head stable and eyeball something on
> > the ground that lines up with any crease or mark on your hood, the cut
> > the wheels side to side and watch. If the object moves, the track bar
> > has issues. That means the nose of the Jeep is moving side to side with
> > the steering, not the wheels just turning left to right.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
>
> With a TJ, you can go into 4Hi at highway speed even on the
> highway. The owner's manual says as much. A shift into 4Lo requires a
> speed of less than 3MPH.
>
> If his rear diff is a limited-slip, that would account for the
> reduction in "shimmy" since the LSD tends to resist a change in
> direction favoring a a straight line instead.
> --

Sure you can 'shift on the fly into 4 high' on almost any Jeep on the
road these days including my 86 CJ7, the problem is the wheels 'must'
scuff the ground in order to not explode parts on the TJ's 'Part Time'
4x4 system if you vary from dead straight ahead.

Driveshafts turn into pretzels doing that if you are only lucky. If you
are 'very very' lucky you only explode a u-joint, not take out the yokes
too, my old roommate blew his t-case in half, literally, doing that....
Too much traction!!!

You only are supposed to go into 'Part Time' 4x4 when the roads are
slippery. Dirt or snow works fine, dry pavement doesn't...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)