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Mike Romain 12-06-2006 11:11 AM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
The first place I look on a TJ for shimmy is the track bar bushings.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

silberj wrote:
>
> I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.


Mike Romain 12-06-2006 11:11 AM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
The first place I look on a TJ for shimmy is the track bar bushings.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

silberj wrote:
>
> I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.


Mike Romain 12-06-2006 11:11 AM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
The first place I look on a TJ for shimmy is the track bar bushings.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

silberj wrote:
>
> I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.


silberj 12-06-2006 05:13 PM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
I have gotten advice to change the tires out to see if that is the
problem. I don't have that luxury right at the moment, but I have
something else to throw in the mix for all you jeepheads out there that
know much more about this than me. I drove around today and it was
pretty significant, but on the way home from work today, I decided to
put it 4WD for no good reason. I noticed that on the trip home (short
ride, about 6 miles), that after I put in 4WD, the shimmy and the
steering jerk were much less significant (although still there). How
does that figure into my problem? I really appreciate all the feedback,
I will definitely do what I can to get to the bottom of this, this
activity is driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.....

John


Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> You know... Posts like this make me want to keep my stock height and
> stock tires except for the fact that I got stuck offroading this
> summer, but I might just put 33's with no lift if thats possible. As
> for your shimmy - My 2002 pulls a bit to the right, but i attribute it
> to the punishment I put it through (my first summer '06). Were you bad
> this summer?
>
>
> silberj wrote:
> > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.



silberj 12-06-2006 05:13 PM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
I have gotten advice to change the tires out to see if that is the
problem. I don't have that luxury right at the moment, but I have
something else to throw in the mix for all you jeepheads out there that
know much more about this than me. I drove around today and it was
pretty significant, but on the way home from work today, I decided to
put it 4WD for no good reason. I noticed that on the trip home (short
ride, about 6 miles), that after I put in 4WD, the shimmy and the
steering jerk were much less significant (although still there). How
does that figure into my problem? I really appreciate all the feedback,
I will definitely do what I can to get to the bottom of this, this
activity is driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.....

John


Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> You know... Posts like this make me want to keep my stock height and
> stock tires except for the fact that I got stuck offroading this
> summer, but I might just put 33's with no lift if thats possible. As
> for your shimmy - My 2002 pulls a bit to the right, but i attribute it
> to the punishment I put it through (my first summer '06). Were you bad
> this summer?
>
>
> silberj wrote:
> > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.



silberj 12-06-2006 05:13 PM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
I have gotten advice to change the tires out to see if that is the
problem. I don't have that luxury right at the moment, but I have
something else to throw in the mix for all you jeepheads out there that
know much more about this than me. I drove around today and it was
pretty significant, but on the way home from work today, I decided to
put it 4WD for no good reason. I noticed that on the trip home (short
ride, about 6 miles), that after I put in 4WD, the shimmy and the
steering jerk were much less significant (although still there). How
does that figure into my problem? I really appreciate all the feedback,
I will definitely do what I can to get to the bottom of this, this
activity is driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.....

John


Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> You know... Posts like this make me want to keep my stock height and
> stock tires except for the fact that I got stuck offroading this
> summer, but I might just put 33's with no lift if thats possible. As
> for your shimmy - My 2002 pulls a bit to the right, but i attribute it
> to the punishment I put it through (my first summer '06). Were you bad
> this summer?
>
>
> silberj wrote:
> > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.



Mike Romain 12-06-2006 05:40 PM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
You are 'soooo' lucky you didn't explode anything!!!!

I have seen a transfer case blown in half from doing that......

With your part time 4x4 system, the front and rear wheels are locked
together. When you corner, the wheels travel different distances so one
wheel has to scuff the ground or the drivetrain winds up and something
breaks....

I would for sure be looking close at the track bar bushings. You can do
it sitting in the seat. Put your head stable and eyeball something on
the ground that lines up with any crease or mark on your hood, the cut
the wheels side to side and watch. If the object moves, the track bar
has issues. That means the nose of the Jeep is moving side to side with
the steering, not the wheels just turning left to right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

silberj wrote:
>
> I have gotten advice to change the tires out to see if that is the
> problem. I don't have that luxury right at the moment, but I have
> something else to throw in the mix for all you jeepheads out there that
> know much more about this than me. I drove around today and it was
> pretty significant, but on the way home from work today, I decided to
> put it 4WD for no good reason. I noticed that on the trip home (short
> ride, about 6 miles), that after I put in 4WD, the shimmy and the
> steering jerk were much less significant (although still there). How
> does that figure into my problem? I really appreciate all the feedback,
> I will definitely do what I can to get to the bottom of this, this
> activity is driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.....
>
> John
>
> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> > You know... Posts like this make me want to keep my stock height and
> > stock tires except for the fact that I got stuck offroading this
> > summer, but I might just put 33's with no lift if thats possible. As
> > for your shimmy - My 2002 pulls a bit to the right, but i attribute it
> > to the punishment I put it through (my first summer '06). Were you bad
> > this summer?
> >
> >
> > silberj wrote:
> > > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.


Mike Romain 12-06-2006 05:40 PM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
You are 'soooo' lucky you didn't explode anything!!!!

I have seen a transfer case blown in half from doing that......

With your part time 4x4 system, the front and rear wheels are locked
together. When you corner, the wheels travel different distances so one
wheel has to scuff the ground or the drivetrain winds up and something
breaks....

I would for sure be looking close at the track bar bushings. You can do
it sitting in the seat. Put your head stable and eyeball something on
the ground that lines up with any crease or mark on your hood, the cut
the wheels side to side and watch. If the object moves, the track bar
has issues. That means the nose of the Jeep is moving side to side with
the steering, not the wheels just turning left to right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

silberj wrote:
>
> I have gotten advice to change the tires out to see if that is the
> problem. I don't have that luxury right at the moment, but I have
> something else to throw in the mix for all you jeepheads out there that
> know much more about this than me. I drove around today and it was
> pretty significant, but on the way home from work today, I decided to
> put it 4WD for no good reason. I noticed that on the trip home (short
> ride, about 6 miles), that after I put in 4WD, the shimmy and the
> steering jerk were much less significant (although still there). How
> does that figure into my problem? I really appreciate all the feedback,
> I will definitely do what I can to get to the bottom of this, this
> activity is driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.....
>
> John
>
> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> > You know... Posts like this make me want to keep my stock height and
> > stock tires except for the fact that I got stuck offroading this
> > summer, but I might just put 33's with no lift if thats possible. As
> > for your shimmy - My 2002 pulls a bit to the right, but i attribute it
> > to the punishment I put it through (my first summer '06). Were you bad
> > this summer?
> >
> >
> > silberj wrote:
> > > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.


Mike Romain 12-06-2006 05:40 PM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
You are 'soooo' lucky you didn't explode anything!!!!

I have seen a transfer case blown in half from doing that......

With your part time 4x4 system, the front and rear wheels are locked
together. When you corner, the wheels travel different distances so one
wheel has to scuff the ground or the drivetrain winds up and something
breaks....

I would for sure be looking close at the track bar bushings. You can do
it sitting in the seat. Put your head stable and eyeball something on
the ground that lines up with any crease or mark on your hood, the cut
the wheels side to side and watch. If the object moves, the track bar
has issues. That means the nose of the Jeep is moving side to side with
the steering, not the wheels just turning left to right.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

silberj wrote:
>
> I have gotten advice to change the tires out to see if that is the
> problem. I don't have that luxury right at the moment, but I have
> something else to throw in the mix for all you jeepheads out there that
> know much more about this than me. I drove around today and it was
> pretty significant, but on the way home from work today, I decided to
> put it 4WD for no good reason. I noticed that on the trip home (short
> ride, about 6 miles), that after I put in 4WD, the shimmy and the
> steering jerk were much less significant (although still there). How
> does that figure into my problem? I really appreciate all the feedback,
> I will definitely do what I can to get to the bottom of this, this
> activity is driving me crazy. Thanks in advance.....
>
> John
>
> Thoth1126@gmail.com wrote:
> > You know... Posts like this make me want to keep my stock height and
> > stock tires except for the fact that I got stuck offroading this
> > summer, but I might just put 33's with no lift if thats possible. As
> > for your shimmy - My 2002 pulls a bit to the right, but i attribute it
> > to the punishment I put it through (my first summer '06). Were you bad
> > this summer?
> >
> >
> > silberj wrote:
> > > I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> > > year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> > > lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> > > too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> > > classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> > > little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> > > handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> > > around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> > > let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> > > which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> > > love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> > > and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> > > info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 12-06-2006 06:20 PM

Re: TJ having a worsening "shimmy" problem
 
You may need to replace your steering box, tie rod ends, ball
joints, wheel bearings, and Universal Joints, and out of align, but it
can't shimmy without a weak steering dampener. You may need two cover up
your modifications:
http://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/m...ode=sus_tj_kit
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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silberj wrote:
>
> I'm a first time jeep owner, having bought a 99 TJ 4x4 just under a
> year ago. My jeep came with 33" Trxus tires, and has I believe a 4"
> lift. Driving the vehicle I realized it would take some getting used
> too, and I have. Lately (last 4 mos or so) I have developed what I
> classify as a severe "shimmy". The vehicle sometimes will steer a
> little on me and requires a fair amount of extra concentration and
> handling to keep it on the road. It is enhanced when I'm at speeds of
> around 50 to 60 mph and either push on the accelerator or even worse
> let off the gas (most reaction) It does have a steering stabilizer
> which I have recently replaced and hasn't helped the problem. I really
> love my jeep and love driving it, but it is becoming a safety hazard
> and a chore to drive sometimes. I will be happy to provide as much more
> info as I can to any of y'all that would like to try to help me out.



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