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SB 07-04-2004 04:20 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
the middle of my vision!

Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
window...how to you remove the glued part?
would love to move that thing up higher!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> close for a fit for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > We had a nice time.
> > >
> > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one

of
> > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > >
> > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving

for
> > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > still.
> > >
> > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > nerves are nasty.
> > >
> > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

couldn't
> > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > >
> > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > tire pressure.
> > >
> > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get

out
> > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

sidewalls
> > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > >
> > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > >
> > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > >
> > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > -jenn
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

<romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be

> > back
> > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the

bush
> > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus

hours
> > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded

can
> > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck

so
> > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the

yahoos
> > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes

away
> > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away

from
> > a
> > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally

had
> > a
> > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it

easy
> > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an

hour
> > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car

can
> > run
> > > > >>this trip.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they

shot
> > it).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock

yet)
> > but
> > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > >>> anything....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and

we
> > were
> > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

because
> > there is
> > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

stopped
> > the
> > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people

> > with
> > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are

> > down to
> > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run

> > away with
> > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

getting
> > raided
> > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in

the
> > day?'
> > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a

> > branch
> > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the

> > bread.
> > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are

> > still ok.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they

> > were
> > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

leaving
> > food
> > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to

> > argue.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and

we
> > treed
> > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly

> > locked
> > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up

bag in
> > the
> > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of

> > crumbs in
> > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on

the
> > floor!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals

and
> > other
> > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the

heck
> > this
> > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

Then
> > we see
> > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to

> > open up
> > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in

> > several
> > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

corner
> > started
> > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough

to
> > get
> > > > >>> > in.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those

buns
> > and
> > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer

> > flies and
> > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

Bait!
> > ;-)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just

added
> > flavor
> > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help

> > him....
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




SB 07-04-2004 04:20 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
the middle of my vision!

Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
window...how to you remove the glued part?
would love to move that thing up higher!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> close for a fit for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > We had a nice time.
> > >
> > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one

of
> > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > >
> > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving

for
> > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > still.
> > >
> > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > nerves are nasty.
> > >
> > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

couldn't
> > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > >
> > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > tire pressure.
> > >
> > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get

out
> > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

sidewalls
> > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > >
> > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > >
> > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > >
> > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > -jenn
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

<romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be

> > back
> > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the

bush
> > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus

hours
> > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded

can
> > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck

so
> > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the

yahoos
> > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes

away
> > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away

from
> > a
> > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally

had
> > a
> > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it

easy
> > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an

hour
> > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car

can
> > run
> > > > >>this trip.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they

shot
> > it).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock

yet)
> > but
> > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > >>> anything....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and

we
> > were
> > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

because
> > there is
> > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

stopped
> > the
> > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people

> > with
> > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are

> > down to
> > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run

> > away with
> > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

getting
> > raided
> > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in

the
> > day?'
> > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a

> > branch
> > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the

> > bread.
> > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are

> > still ok.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they

> > were
> > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

leaving
> > food
> > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to

> > argue.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and

we
> > treed
> > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly

> > locked
> > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up

bag in
> > the
> > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of

> > crumbs in
> > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on

the
> > floor!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals

and
> > other
> > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the

heck
> > this
> > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

Then
> > we see
> > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to

> > open up
> > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in

> > several
> > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

corner
> > started
> > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough

to
> > get
> > > > >>> > in.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those

buns
> > and
> > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer

> > flies and
> > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

Bait!
> > ;-)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just

added
> > flavor
> > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help

> > him....
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




SB 07-04-2004 04:20 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
the middle of my vision!

Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
window...how to you remove the glued part?
would love to move that thing up higher!

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> close for a fit for me.
>
> Mike
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > We had a nice time.
> > >
> > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one

of
> > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > >
> > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving

for
> > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > still.
> > >
> > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > nerves are nasty.
> > >
> > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

couldn't
> > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > >
> > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > tire pressure.
> > >
> > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get

out
> > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

sidewalls
> > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > >
> > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > >
> > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > >
> > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > -jenn
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

<romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be

> > back
> > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the

bush
> > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus

hours
> > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded

can
> > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck

so
> > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the

yahoos
> > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes

away
> > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away

from
> > a
> > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally

had
> > a
> > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it

easy
> > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an

hour
> > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car

can
> > run
> > > > >>this trip.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they

shot
> > it).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock

yet)
> > but
> > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > >>> anything....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and

we
> > were
> > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

because
> > there is
> > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

stopped
> > the
> > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people

> > with
> > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are

> > down to
> > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run

> > away with
> > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

getting
> > raided
> > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in

the
> > day?'
> > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a

> > branch
> > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the

> > bread.
> > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are

> > still ok.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they

> > were
> > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

leaving
> > food
> > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to

> > argue.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and

we
> > treed
> > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly

> > locked
> > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up

bag in
> > the
> > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of

> > crumbs in
> > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on

the
> > floor!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals

and
> > other
> > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the

heck
> > this
> > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

Then
> > we see
> > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to

> > open up
> > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in

> > several
> > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

corner
> > started
> > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough

to
> > get
> > > > >>> > in.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those

buns
> > and
> > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer

> > flies and
> > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

Bait!
> > ;-)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just

added
> > flavor
> > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help

> > him....
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Mike Romain 07-04-2004 04:43 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
> the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
> the middle of my vision!
>
> Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
> off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> window...how to you remove the glued part?
> would love to move that thing up higher!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> > close for a fit for me.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > We had a nice time.
> > > >
> > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one

> of
> > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > >
> > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving

> for
> > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > > still.
> > > >
> > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

> couldn't
> > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > >
> > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > > tire pressure.
> > > >
> > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get

> out
> > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

> sidewalls
> > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > >
> > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > -jenn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

> <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > > back
> > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the

> bush
> > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus

> hours
> > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded

> can
> > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck

> so
> > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the

> yahoos
> > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes

> away
> > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away

> from
> > > a
> > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally

> had
> > > a
> > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it

> easy
> > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an

> hour
> > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car

> can
> > > run
> > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they

> shot
> > > it).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock

> yet)
> > > but
> > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and

> we
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

> because
> > > there is
> > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

> stopped
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > > with
> > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > > down to
> > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > > away with
> > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

> getting
> > > raided
> > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in

> the
> > > day?'
> > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > > bread.
> > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > > still ok.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

> leaving
> > > food
> > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > > argue.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and

> we
> > > treed
> > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > > locked
> > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up

> bag in
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > > crumbs in
> > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on

> the
> > > floor!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals

> and
> > > other
> > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the

> heck
> > > this
> > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

> Then
> > > we see
> > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > > open up
> > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > > several
> > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

> corner
> > > started
> > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough

> to
> > > get
> > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those

> buns
> > > and
> > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > > flies and
> > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

> Bait!
> > > ;-)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just

> added
> > > flavor
> > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > > him....
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Mike Romain 07-04-2004 04:43 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
> the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
> the middle of my vision!
>
> Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
> off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> window...how to you remove the glued part?
> would love to move that thing up higher!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> > close for a fit for me.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > We had a nice time.
> > > >
> > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one

> of
> > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > >
> > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving

> for
> > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > > still.
> > > >
> > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

> couldn't
> > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > >
> > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > > tire pressure.
> > > >
> > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get

> out
> > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

> sidewalls
> > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > >
> > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > -jenn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

> <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > > back
> > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the

> bush
> > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus

> hours
> > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded

> can
> > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck

> so
> > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the

> yahoos
> > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes

> away
> > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away

> from
> > > a
> > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally

> had
> > > a
> > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it

> easy
> > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an

> hour
> > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car

> can
> > > run
> > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they

> shot
> > > it).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock

> yet)
> > > but
> > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and

> we
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

> because
> > > there is
> > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

> stopped
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > > with
> > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > > down to
> > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > > away with
> > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

> getting
> > > raided
> > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in

> the
> > > day?'
> > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > > bread.
> > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > > still ok.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

> leaving
> > > food
> > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > > argue.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and

> we
> > > treed
> > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > > locked
> > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up

> bag in
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > > crumbs in
> > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on

> the
> > > floor!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals

> and
> > > other
> > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the

> heck
> > > this
> > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

> Then
> > > we see
> > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > > open up
> > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > > several
> > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

> corner
> > > started
> > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough

> to
> > > get
> > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those

> buns
> > > and
> > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > > flies and
> > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

> Bait!
> > > ;-)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just

> added
> > > flavor
> > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > > him....
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Mike Romain 07-04-2004 04:43 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
> the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
> the middle of my vision!
>
> Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
> off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> window...how to you remove the glued part?
> would love to move that thing up higher!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> > close for a fit for me.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > We had a nice time.
> > > >
> > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one

> of
> > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > >
> > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving

> for
> > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > > still.
> > > >
> > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

> couldn't
> > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > >
> > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > > tire pressure.
> > > >
> > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get

> out
> > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

> sidewalls
> > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > >
> > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > -jenn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

> <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > > back
> > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the

> bush
> > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus

> hours
> > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded

> can
> > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck

> so
> > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the

> yahoos
> > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes

> away
> > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away

> from
> > > a
> > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally

> had
> > > a
> > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it

> easy
> > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an

> hour
> > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car

> can
> > > run
> > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they

> shot
> > > it).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock

> yet)
> > > but
> > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and

> we
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

> because
> > > there is
> > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

> stopped
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > > with
> > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > > down to
> > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > > away with
> > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

> getting
> > > raided
> > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in

> the
> > > day?'
> > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > > bread.
> > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > > still ok.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

> leaving
> > > food
> > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > > argue.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and

> we
> > > treed
> > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > > locked
> > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up

> bag in
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > > crumbs in
> > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on

> the
> > > floor!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals

> and
> > > other
> > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the

> heck
> > > this
> > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

> Then
> > > we see
> > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > > open up
> > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > > several
> > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

> corner
> > > started
> > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough

> to
> > > get
> > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those

> buns
> > > and
> > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > > flies and
> > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

> Bait!
> > > ;-)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just

> added
> > > flavor
> > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > > him....
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Mike Romain 07-04-2004 04:43 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly behind
> the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right in
> the middle of my vision!
>
> Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the mirror
> off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> window...how to you remove the glued part?
> would love to move that thing up higher!
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big boy,
> > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't even
> > close for a fit for me.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > >
> > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > We had a nice time.
> > > >
> > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be one

> of
> > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > >
> > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried driving

> for
> > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat back
> > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the Cherokee
> > > > still.
> > > >
> > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much as I
> > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one was
> > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it kept
> > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

> couldn't
> > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > >
> > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station (running on
> > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night late
> > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about the
> > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs for
> > > > tire pressure.
> > > >
> > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I get

> out
> > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

> sidewalls
> > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > >
> > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some land
> > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > -jenn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

> <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had to be
> > > back
> > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into the

> bush
> > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a serious
> > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4 plus

> hours
> > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully loaded

> can
> > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any truck

> so
> > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and the

> yahoos
> > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two lakes

> away
> > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet away

> from
> > > a
> > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer, hawks,
> > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and generally

> had
> > > a
> > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take it

> easy
> > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak up!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to an

> hour
> > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A car

> can
> > > run
> > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read they

> shot
> > > it).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only stock

> yet)
> > > but
> > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to find
> > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ and

> we
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

> because
> > > there is
> > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

> stopped
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating people
> > > with
> > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we are
> > > down to
> > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to run
> > > away with
> > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

> getting
> > > raided
> > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out in

> the
> > > day?'
> > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread on a
> > > branch
> > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve the
> > > bread.
> > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they are
> > > still ok.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though they
> > > were
> > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

> leaving
> > > food
> > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going to
> > > argue.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day and

> we
> > > treed
> > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything smelly
> > > locked
> > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip up

> bag in
> > > the
> > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a pile of
> > > crumbs in
> > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting on

> the
> > > floor!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and cereals

> and
> > > other
> > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how the

> heck
> > > this
> > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

> Then
> > > we see
> > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top trying to
> > > open up
> > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open in
> > > several
> > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

> corner
> > > started
> > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up enough

> to
> > > get
> > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed those

> buns
> > > and
> > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The Deer
> > > flies and
> > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

> Bait!
> > > ;-)
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on many
> > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray, just

> added
> > > flavor
> > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't help
> > > him....
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


SB 07-04-2004 05:45 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....

we'll see..


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly

behind
> > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right

in
> > the middle of my vision!
> >
> > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the

mirror
> > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > would love to move that thing up higher!
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big

boy,
> > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't

even
> > > close for a fit for me.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be

one
> > of
> > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried

driving
> > for
> > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat

back
> > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the

Cherokee
> > > > > still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much

as I
> > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one

was
> > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it

kept
> > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

> > couldn't
> > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > >
> > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station

(running on
> > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night

late
> > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about

the
> > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs

for
> > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > >
> > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I

get
> > out
> > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

> > sidewalls
> > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > >
> > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some

land
> > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

> > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had

to be
> > > > back
> > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into

the
> > bush
> > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a

serious
> > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4

plus
> > hours
> > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully

loaded
> > can
> > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any

truck
> > so
> > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and

the
> > yahoos
> > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two

lakes
> > away
> > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet

away
> > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,

hawks,
> > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and

generally
> > had
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take

it
> > easy
> > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak

up!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to

an
> > hour
> > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A

car
> > can
> > > > run
> > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read

they
> > shot
> > > > it).
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only

stock
> > yet)
> > > > but
> > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to

find
> > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ

and
> > we
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

> > because
> > > > there is
> > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

> > stopped
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating

people
> > > > with
> > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we

are
> > > > down to
> > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to

run
> > > > away with
> > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

> > getting
> > > > raided
> > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out

in
> > the
> > > > day?'
> > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread

on a
> > > > branch
> > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve

the
> > > > bread.
> > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they

are
> > > > still ok.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though

they
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

> > leaving
> > > > food
> > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going

to
> > > > argue.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day

and
> > we
> > > > treed
> > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything

smelly
> > > > locked
> > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip

up
> > bag in
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a

pile of
> > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting

on
> > the
> > > > floor!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and

cereals
> > and
> > > > other
> > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how

the
> > heck
> > > > this
> > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

> > Then
> > > > we see
> > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top

trying to
> > > > open up
> > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open

in
> > > > several
> > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

> > corner
> > > > started
> > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up

enough
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed

those
> > buns
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The

Deer
> > > > flies and
> > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

> > Bait!
> > > > ;-)
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on

many
> > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,

just
> > added
> > > > flavor
> > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't

help
> > > > him....
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in

'00
> > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




SB 07-04-2004 05:45 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....

we'll see..


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly

behind
> > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right

in
> > the middle of my vision!
> >
> > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the

mirror
> > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > would love to move that thing up higher!
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big

boy,
> > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't

even
> > > close for a fit for me.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be

one
> > of
> > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried

driving
> > for
> > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat

back
> > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the

Cherokee
> > > > > still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much

as I
> > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one

was
> > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it

kept
> > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

> > couldn't
> > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > >
> > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station

(running on
> > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night

late
> > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about

the
> > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs

for
> > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > >
> > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I

get
> > out
> > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

> > sidewalls
> > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > >
> > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some

land
> > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

> > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had

to be
> > > > back
> > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into

the
> > bush
> > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a

serious
> > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4

plus
> > hours
> > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully

loaded
> > can
> > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any

truck
> > so
> > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and

the
> > yahoos
> > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two

lakes
> > away
> > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet

away
> > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,

hawks,
> > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and

generally
> > had
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take

it
> > easy
> > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak

up!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to

an
> > hour
> > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A

car
> > can
> > > > run
> > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read

they
> > shot
> > > > it).
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only

stock
> > yet)
> > > > but
> > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to

find
> > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ

and
> > we
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

> > because
> > > > there is
> > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

> > stopped
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating

people
> > > > with
> > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we

are
> > > > down to
> > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to

run
> > > > away with
> > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

> > getting
> > > > raided
> > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out

in
> > the
> > > > day?'
> > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread

on a
> > > > branch
> > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve

the
> > > > bread.
> > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they

are
> > > > still ok.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though

they
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

> > leaving
> > > > food
> > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going

to
> > > > argue.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day

and
> > we
> > > > treed
> > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything

smelly
> > > > locked
> > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip

up
> > bag in
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a

pile of
> > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting

on
> > the
> > > > floor!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and

cereals
> > and
> > > > other
> > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how

the
> > heck
> > > > this
> > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

> > Then
> > > > we see
> > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top

trying to
> > > > open up
> > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open

in
> > > > several
> > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

> > corner
> > > > started
> > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up

enough
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed

those
> > buns
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The

Deer
> > > > flies and
> > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

> > Bait!
> > > > ;-)
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on

many
> > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,

just
> > added
> > > > flavor
> > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't

help
> > > > him....
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in

'00
> > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




SB 07-04-2004 05:45 PM

Re: TJ got raided for food out camping!
 
yup....I crank it up...but it eventually settles back down....I'd just as
soon mount it to the glass at the top metal bar there....

we'll see..


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E86BE2.9E5D17C9@sympatico.ca...
> It has a pivot right at the glass on the arm so the sucker can move
> wayyy up. Some were fixed in place, not the Jeep one.
>
> Mike
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > I'm only 6ft...but a heffer for sure! I find I can't sit directly

behind
> > the steering wheel without hanging an arm on the windowsill. Seat are
> > comfie enough for me in my '02....but I find the rear view mirror right

in
> > the middle of my vision!
> >
> > Actually, there's a quick question....what do ya gotta do to get the

mirror
> > off? I know it's screwed on to a little clip that glues on to your
> > window...how to you remove the glued part?
> > would love to move that thing up higher!
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40E84F51.31896787@sympatico.ca...
> > > It was a 98 and we were commenting on the seat change. I am a big

boy,
> > > 6'4", 220 lb and fit nice in my CJ7's seats. These TJ ones aren't

even
> > > close for a fit for me.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What year TJ? They changed the seats in '02 I think...
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:40E818F2.81BE03F3@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > We had a nice time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I really didn't want to bitch and complain, but the TJ has to be

one
> > of
> > > > > the more uncomfortable vehicles I have ever driven in!
> > > > >
> > > > > I just plain don't fit in one set up stock and I even tried

driving
> > for
> > > > > a while. If I have to drive in one again I will bring my seat

back
> > > > > brace and a butt cushion. I need that brace to drive in the

Cherokee
> > > > > still.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basically just driving the hour and a half on dirt was/is as much

as I
> > > > > can take at one time. Getting better, but really slowly. Pinched
> > > > > nerves are nasty.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the TJ was supposed to have a soft cushy ride, this one

was
> > > > > worse than my CJ7! It literally could knock fillings out and it

kept
> > > > > trying to ring my bell off the roll bar during the bouncing, I

> > couldn't
> > > > > believe it. I had to hang onto the side bar to keep my head safe.
> > > > >
> > > > > So we got out of the woods and found the first gas station

(running on
> > > > > fumes with the red light on, no gas stations were open Wed night

late
> > > > > because of the holiday but we had a jerry can) and I comment about

the
> > > > > shitty ride now that we are out of the bush and ask what he runs

for
> > > > > tire pressure.
> > > > >
> > > > > 'I don't know' he says, 'what ever the shop put in them'. So I

get
> > out
> > > > > a gauge and the gauge only reads up to 50 psi....... Hey the

> > sidewalls
> > > > > 'say' 50 psi on them....
> > > > >
> > > > > I have no idea how much was actually in those tires, but it took a
> > > > > 'looong' time to get them down to 30 psi. WOW!
> > > > >
> > > > > The drive home and the dirt road detour we took to check out some

land
> > > > > was sooo much of a smoother drive.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > jbjeep wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sounds like a really nice trip Mike.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How you been feeling? Things getting any better??
> > > > > > -jenn
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:23:16 -0400, Mike Romain

> > <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>We went Wed. night and I was running shotgun. My friend had

to be
> > > > back
> > > > > > >>for a wedding today and I couldn't find anyone to come into

the
> > bush
> > > > > > >>today or tomorrow to pick me up if I had of stayed.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We go into the bush out Bancroft way. It 'used' to be a

serious
> > > > > > >>challenge in 4x4 to get into the lakes I like to camp at, 4

plus
> > hours
> > > > > > >>one way from paved roads.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Now the loggers have made the roads so nice, minivans fully

loaded
> > can
> > > > > > >>make it right to some lakes in less than an hour.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>It has way too many 'yahoos' able to get in there now in any

truck
> > so
> > > > > > >>has pretty much ruined the area.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We were camped on a lake you still need a 4x4 to get to and

the
> > yahoos
> > > > > > >>with their ATV's with no mufflers were annoying us from two

lakes
> > away
> > > > > > >>still! They were loud enough voices carry.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>We should have had a camera with us though. We were 3 feet

away
> > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>beaver working his pond without a worry, saw lots of deer,

hawks,
> > > > > > >>snakes, found a beaver skull that my friend grabbed and

generally
> > had
> > > > a
> > > > > > >>nice couple days.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Most of the trails I run are ok for any stock 4x4 if they take

it
> > easy
> > > > > > >>so if you see me post about a trip and feel like coming speak

up!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Going to James Bay the end of August. All paved roads up to

an
> > hour
> > > > > > >>from the Bay though and the last are nice graded gravel. A

car
> > can
> > > > run
> > > > > > >>this trip.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Mike
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>SB wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Short trip eh?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I heard about the bear siting down near Dundas (just read

they
> > shot
> > > > it).
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Where abouts did ya's go?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I'm still trying to find some wheeling trails (I am only

stock
> > yet)
> > > > but
> > > > > > >>> think I'll have to venture further north (in Barrie now) to

find
> > > > > > >>> anything....
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > >>> news:40E6E86B.818DA59F@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > > >>> > LOL! Well, that was a first for me!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I was out camping in the deep bush with a friend in his TJ

and
> > we
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > being careful about garbage and any open food or smells

> > because
> > > > there is
> > > > > > >>> > a nuisance bear warning in the general area. Politicians

> > stopped
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > spring hunt so a new generation of bears isn't equating

people
> > > > with
> > > > > > >>> > guns, instead they are raiding homes and camps for food.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So I have just finished making and eating breakfast and we

are
> > > > down to
> > > > > > >>> > the lake washing dishes.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I come walking back up to see a freaking raccoon trying to

run
> > > > away with
> > > > > > >>> > a whole loaf of bread. I yell for my buddy that we are

> > getting
> > > > raided
> > > > > > >>> > by a coon and he says 'what the heck is the coon doing out

in
> > the
> > > > day?'
> > > > > > >>> > I answered, 'stealing our bread!'
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So we chased the bugger up a tree and he drops the bread

on a
> > > > branch
> > > > > > >>> > about 15 feet up. Frig that, I get a stick and retrieve

the
> > > > bread.
> > > > > > >>> > Turns out it was a bag of sesame egg hot dog buns and they

are
> > > > still ok.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Great, so we put them into a zippered bag where we though

they
> > > > were
> > > > > > >>> > zipped into in the first place. I sort of grumble about

> > leaving
> > > > food
> > > > > > >>> > bags open and Jay swears he closed it. Ok, I'm not going

to
> > > > argue.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > So the coon comes back a couple more times during the day

and
> > we
> > > > treed
> > > > > > >>> > him both times. He still didn't get the point...
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Come night, we made sure no food was open with anything

smelly
> > > > locked
> > > > > > >>> > inside the cooler and put the bread and buns in this zip

up
> > bag in
> > > > the
> > > > > > >>> > TJ and we zipped up the TJ and closed the doors.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I get up in the morning and open the TJ only to find a

pile of
> > > > crumbs in
> > > > > > >>> > the drivers seat and the empty bag of hot dog buns sitting

on
> > the
> > > > floor!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > WTF?
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > 'Nothing' else was touched, we had bags of nuts and

cereals
> > and
> > > > other
> > > > > > >>> > breads and not a ding on anything!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Ok, so I am checking around trying to figure out just how

the
> > heck
> > > > this
> > > > > > >>> > damn coon got in there, let along back out and get Jay up.

> > Then
> > > > we see
> > > > > > >>> > the paw prints in the dust.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > The raccoon had gone all the way around the soft top

trying to
> > > > open up
> > > > > > >>> > the velcro and zippered windows! He almost got them open

in
> > > > several
> > > > > > >>> > places and finally he stood on the tail light and got the

> > corner
> > > > started
> > > > > > >>> > where a string was hanging out and zipped the zipper up

enough
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > >>> > in.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then went for the zip up bag, opened it up, grabbed

those
> > buns
> > > > and
> > > > > > >>> > sat back in the front seat for a munchie.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > He then up and left without touching another thing!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I will be watching for that from now on.
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I guess the bugger likes egg bread big time! LOL!
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I also need to bring my buddy Jay along more often. The

Deer
> > > > flies and
> > > > > > >>> > Mosquitoes are in season. My buddy has a new nick name...

> > Bait!
> > > > ;-)
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > I never got 'bugged' and he was swarmed not 3' from me on

many
> > > > > > >>> > occasions. He tried all different types of bug spray,

just
> > added
> > > > flavor
> > > > > > >>> > for them. Even sitting down wind of a smoky fire didn't

help
> > > > him....
> > > > > > >>> >
> > > > > > >>> > Mike
> > > > > > >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in

'00
> > > > > > >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's





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