TJ gears
02-05-2004, 11:32 AM
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TJ gears
Hi,
When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
confirm this?
Thanks,
Steve
When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
confirm this?
Thanks,
Steve
02-05-2004, 01:28 PM
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Re: TJ gears
Hi Steve,
No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Steve wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
> track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
> would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
> gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
> the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>
> I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
> carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
> confirm this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
> track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
> would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
> gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
> the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>
> I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
> carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
> confirm this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
02-05-2004, 01:28 PM
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Re: TJ gears
Hi Steve,
No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
> track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
> would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
> gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
> the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>
> I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
> carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
> confirm this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
> track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
> would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
> gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
> the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>
> I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
> carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
> confirm this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
02-05-2004, 01:28 PM
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Re: TJ gears
Hi Steve,
No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
> track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
> would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
> gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
> the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>
> I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
> carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
> confirm this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
> track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
> would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
> gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
> the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>
> I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
> carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
> confirm this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
02-05-2004, 05:00 PM
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Re: TJ gears
Hi Bill,
Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
> You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
> make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
> up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
> the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
> carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
>>track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
>>would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
>>gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
>>the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>>
>>I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
>>carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
>>confirm this?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve
Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
> You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
> make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
> up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
> the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
> carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
>>track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
>>would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
>>gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
>>the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>>
>>I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
>>carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
>>confirm this?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve
02-05-2004, 05:00 PM
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Re: TJ gears
Hi Bill,
Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
> You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
> make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
> up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
> the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
> carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
>>track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
>>would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
>>gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
>>the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>>
>>I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
>>carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
>>confirm this?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve
Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
> You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
> make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
> up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
> the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
> carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
>>track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
>>would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
>>gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
>>the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>>
>>I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
>>carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
>>confirm this?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve
02-05-2004, 05:00 PM
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Re: TJ gears
Hi Bill,
Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
> You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
> make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
> up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
> the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
> carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
>>track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
>>would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
>>gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
>>the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>>
>>I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
>>carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
>>confirm this?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve
Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
Steve
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> No, no Dana 44 uses the same size carrier for the 4.09 as 3.73.
> You're probably comparing it to an old Ford nine inch where they do not
> make a carrier change and the ring gears get fatter as the ratio moves
> up to slide it over against the decreasing size of the pinion. Or maybe
> the old Chevy ten bolt where they sometimes use a spacer, to convert the
> carrier, anyway there's nothing like that for Dana.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>When a newer TJ (4-cyl?) comes with a 4.10 ratio Dana 44 rear with
>>track-lock, is it true that the carrier is the same size as the one that
>>would come with 3.73 ratio? In other words, is the factory 4.10 ring
>>gear thicker than a typical 4.10 ring gear in order to compensate for
>>the lack of a carrier break in the TJ Dana 44?
>>
>>I've heard that the use of thicker 4.10 ring gears in order to avoid a
>>carrier break in the TJ dates from the 1999 model year. Can anyone
>>confirm this?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Steve
02-05-2004, 07:28 PM
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Re: TJ gears
Hi Steve,
Yup:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/4.8...hlightsweb.pdf
Except nothing is mentioned about this new idea at this no name
manufacturer, Yukon Gear: http://www.yukongear.com/index.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
> the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
>
> http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
>
> Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
> 4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
> track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
> confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
>
> Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
> 4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
>
> Steve
Yup:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/4.8...hlightsweb.pdf
Except nothing is mentioned about this new idea at this no name
manufacturer, Yukon Gear: http://www.yukongear.com/index.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
> the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
>
> http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
>
> Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
> 4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
> track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
> confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
>
> Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
> 4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
>
> Steve
02-05-2004, 07:28 PM
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ gears
Hi Steve,
Yup:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/4.8...hlightsweb.pdf
Except nothing is mentioned about this new idea at this no name
manufacturer, Yukon Gear: http://www.yukongear.com/index.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
> the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
>
> http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
>
> Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
> 4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
> track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
> confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
>
> Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
> 4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
>
> Steve
Yup:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/4.8...hlightsweb.pdf
Except nothing is mentioned about this new idea at this no name
manufacturer, Yukon Gear: http://www.yukongear.com/index.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
> the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
>
> http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
>
> Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
> 4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
> track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
> confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
>
> Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
> 4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
>
> Steve
02-05-2004, 07:28 PM
#10
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Posts: n/a
Re: TJ gears
Hi Steve,
Yup:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/4.8...hlightsweb.pdf
Except nothing is mentioned about this new idea at this no name
manufacturer, Yukon Gear: http://www.yukongear.com/index.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
> the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
>
> http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
>
> Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
> 4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
> track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
> confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
>
> Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
> 4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
>
> Steve
Yup:
http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/4.8...hlightsweb.pdf
Except nothing is mentioned about this new idea at this no name
manufacturer, Yukon Gear: http://www.yukongear.com/index.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Are you sure about that? The Rubicon TJ uses a thick 4.09 ring gear on
> the 3.73-sized Tru-Lok:
>
> http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html
>
> Granted, the Tru-Lok is not a Dana carrier. While looking for some used
> 4.09 gears to fit my Tru-Lok, I found a set from a 2001 TJ D44
> track-lock that the seller says will fit a 3.73 carrier. Just trying to
> confirm they'll fit before I mail away for them.
>
> Is it possible that DC chose at some point to use thicker 4.09 gears in
> 4-cyl TJs in order to use up some 3.73-sized track-lock carriers?
>
> Steve
