Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

>From: munchiechee@sbcglobal.net (munchiechee)
>Date: 8/22/04 8:59 PM AST
>Message-id: <cb153bd2.0408221659.17368a9c@posting.google.com >
>
>Dear elitist prigs,
>
>Of course I don't mean to address the posters who replied in a
>friendly kind of way, but the majority of you stuck up elitists chose
>to make hay out of my being better served by a different car.
>
>I asked if it was possible to drop in a more efficent powertrain on a
>Jeep because I'm annoyed by low teens in the MPG. If thats whats
>Jeeps get, well congratulations to all of you for being satisfied with
>an inefficient auto in 2004- in my opinion the extremely low MPG on
>the TJ is hilariously low for a modern vehicle.
>
>If its an aerodynamics issue than there 4 banger shouldn't get better
>MPG - period. SO it stands to reason that the aged 6 cylinder in the
>Jeep is the reason.
>
>Of course it is always amusing to watch the self-proclaimed experts on
>the Jeep board strut around as if anyone who doesn't share their
>WEALTH of knowledge and insight, and in this case, acceptance of a
>crappy aspect of a jeep is better suited in a different auto -
>I'll keep the TJ, thanks - and your opinions of whether I'm "suited"
>for it or not can keep your collective heads company up your bums.
>
>


Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask a
simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

>From: munchiechee@sbcglobal.net (munchiechee)
>Date: 8/22/04 8:59 PM AST
>Message-id: <cb153bd2.0408221659.17368a9c@posting.google.com >
>
>Dear elitist prigs,
>
>Of course I don't mean to address the posters who replied in a
>friendly kind of way, but the majority of you stuck up elitists chose
>to make hay out of my being better served by a different car.
>
>I asked if it was possible to drop in a more efficent powertrain on a
>Jeep because I'm annoyed by low teens in the MPG. If thats whats
>Jeeps get, well congratulations to all of you for being satisfied with
>an inefficient auto in 2004- in my opinion the extremely low MPG on
>the TJ is hilariously low for a modern vehicle.
>
>If its an aerodynamics issue than there 4 banger shouldn't get better
>MPG - period. SO it stands to reason that the aged 6 cylinder in the
>Jeep is the reason.
>
>Of course it is always amusing to watch the self-proclaimed experts on
>the Jeep board strut around as if anyone who doesn't share their
>WEALTH of knowledge and insight, and in this case, acceptance of a
>crappy aspect of a jeep is better suited in a different auto -
>I'll keep the TJ, thanks - and your opinions of whether I'm "suited"
>for it or not can keep your collective heads company up your bums.
>
>


Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask a
simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

>From: munchiechee@sbcglobal.net (munchiechee)
>Date: 8/22/04 8:59 PM AST
>Message-id: <cb153bd2.0408221659.17368a9c@posting.google.com >
>
>Dear elitist prigs,
>
>Of course I don't mean to address the posters who replied in a
>friendly kind of way, but the majority of you stuck up elitists chose
>to make hay out of my being better served by a different car.
>
>I asked if it was possible to drop in a more efficent powertrain on a
>Jeep because I'm annoyed by low teens in the MPG. If thats whats
>Jeeps get, well congratulations to all of you for being satisfied with
>an inefficient auto in 2004- in my opinion the extremely low MPG on
>the TJ is hilariously low for a modern vehicle.
>
>If its an aerodynamics issue than there 4 banger shouldn't get better
>MPG - period. SO it stands to reason that the aged 6 cylinder in the
>Jeep is the reason.
>
>Of course it is always amusing to watch the self-proclaimed experts on
>the Jeep board strut around as if anyone who doesn't share their
>WEALTH of knowledge and insight, and in this case, acceptance of a
>crappy aspect of a jeep is better suited in a different auto -
>I'll keep the TJ, thanks - and your opinions of whether I'm "suited"
>for it or not can keep your collective heads company up your bums.
>
>


Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask a
simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
"I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.

I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
jeep.

I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
range?

Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
figure it would be a fun project.

thanks."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Hrd wrote:
>
> Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask a
> simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
"I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.

I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
jeep.

I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
range?

Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
figure it would be a fun project.

thanks."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Hrd wrote:
>
> Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask a
> simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
"I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.

I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
jeep.

I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
range?

Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
figure it would be a fun project.

thanks."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Hrd wrote:
>
> Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask a
> simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
"I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.

I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
jeep.

I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
range?

Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
figure it would be a fun project.

thanks."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Hrd wrote:
>
> Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask a
> simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

Bill,
I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
asked the question then edit again. Then send.
Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41295025.DAC046F5@cox.net...
> Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
> "I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
> consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
> advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.
>
> I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
> stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
> jeep.
>
> I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
> swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
> the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
> range?
>
> Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
> figure it would be a fun project.
>
> thanks."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Hrd wrote:
> >
> > Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask
a
> > simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

Bill,
I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
asked the question then edit again. Then send.
Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41295025.DAC046F5@cox.net...
> Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
> "I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
> consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
> advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.
>
> I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
> stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
> jeep.
>
> I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
> swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
> the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
> range?
>
> Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
> figure it would be a fun project.
>
> thanks."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Hrd wrote:
> >
> > Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask
a
> > simple question.

Re: TJ engine swap - 4.0 to something with better MPG?
 

Bill,
I think your being awfully hard on him. I'd say he's not so much a troll,
rather an uninformed owner who was looking for some advice in a place where
you'd expect to get a "polite" and knowledgeable answer. All most everyone
did was flame the ---- out of him. No wonder he's pissed. That kind of thing
happens in this NG alot lately. I've been reading and posting here for the
past six or seven years and I've noticed a marked decline in civility.
Lighten up guys. Read, think, type, think again, edit, read it as if you
asked the question then edit again. Then send.
Rich Harris. USN soon to be retired and ready!

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41295025.DAC046F5@cox.net...
> Read it again and see if it doesn't shout, TROLL!
> "I have a 97 TJ 4.0/manual thats been great on road and off - the only
> consistent problem I have with the Jeep is the MPGs, way less than
> advertised, I'm averaging 12-14 in city and about 16 on freeway.
>
> I've checked everything out possible, and even taken it to the
> stealer; either I have a very heavy foot or I just have a thirsty
> jeep.
>
> I'm basically annoyed by the gas mileage, so my question is- can I
> swap in an engine (or engine/tranny combo) that will give me at least
> the same performance (torque, power) and also has mpg in the 19-24 mpg
> range?
>
> Sure its a lot to ask, but if its possible I'd like to do it and
> figure it would be a fun project.
>
> thanks."
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> Hrd wrote:
> >
> > Ya know, I don't blame him at all for this response. All he did was ask
a
> > simple question.