Scott R

Doh! Relays in the PDC. Will check those today and then look into the
ignition switch adjustment or maybe even replacement.

Thanks, Bill.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
news:42168737.CF7996D7@***.net:

> Hi Scott,
> You mean you pulled the relays from the power distribution box
> next
> to the battery and they all worked on the bench? I think if you had
> to wiggle your key around to find the connection to make your
> ignition of warning buzzer work, then that's where the problem is,
> in your ignition switch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Scott R

Doh! Relays in the PDC. Will check those today and then look into the
ignition switch adjustment or maybe even replacement.

Thanks, Bill.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
news:42168737.CF7996D7@***.net:

> Hi Scott,
> You mean you pulled the relays from the power distribution box
> next
> to the battery and they all worked on the bench? I think if you had
> to wiggle your key around to find the connection to make your
> ignition of warning buzzer work, then that's where the problem is,
> in your ignition switch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Scott R

Doh! Relays in the PDC. Will check those today and then look into the
ignition switch adjustment or maybe even replacement.

Thanks, Bill.


L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in
news:42168737.CF7996D7@***.net:

> Hi Scott,
> You mean you pulled the relays from the power distribution box
> next
> to the battery and they all worked on the bench? I think if you had
> to wiggle your key around to find the connection to make your
> ignition of warning buzzer work, then that's where the problem is,
> in your ignition switch.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

Scott R

Looks like I got a trip to a local dealership parts department anyway, as
the turn signal/hazard switch failed a few continuity tests. I
understand from reading this newsgroup that there are known issues with
these after getting rain soaked.

Thanks, Mike.


Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:42168B2B.1CC6D09@sympatico.ca:

> I should have read that better the first time.
>
> I agree with Bill, your ignition switch sounds bad. It can go out
> of adjustment down on the lower steering column, but it sounds more
> dead to me if everything else works.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>

Scott R

Looks like I got a trip to a local dealership parts department anyway, as
the turn signal/hazard switch failed a few continuity tests. I
understand from reading this newsgroup that there are known issues with
these after getting rain soaked.

Thanks, Mike.


Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:42168B2B.1CC6D09@sympatico.ca:

> I should have read that better the first time.
>
> I agree with Bill, your ignition switch sounds bad. It can go out
> of adjustment down on the lower steering column, but it sounds more
> dead to me if everything else works.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>

Scott R

Looks like I got a trip to a local dealership parts department anyway, as
the turn signal/hazard switch failed a few continuity tests. I
understand from reading this newsgroup that there are known issues with
these after getting rain soaked.

Thanks, Mike.


Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:42168B2B.1CC6D09@sympatico.ca:

> I should have read that better the first time.
>
> I agree with Bill, your ignition switch sounds bad. It can go out
> of adjustment down on the lower steering column, but it sounds more
> dead to me if everything else works.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>

mic canic

under the dr. side dash on the metal kickpanel is a stud sticking out
that should have some ground wires attached to it make sure they are
tight

"Scott R." wrote:

> 1998 TJ SE, AX-5, 72700 miles, outside of warranty help for this
> problem.
>
> I've been chasing an electrical problem for weeks now and am at a
> loss. Currently, the factory radio, cigar lighter, turn signals,
> wipers, 3 amp switched wire (behind glove box) are not functioning.
> I've since pulled my radio and speakers to trace continuity and look
> for relays. I've pulled and tested every fuse, behind glove box and
> the power distribution center.
>
> I've used the service manual to perform testing on the accessory
> relay and accessory relay wiring and all tests have passed. I've
> also tested any other relay I've run across, all have passed. Have
> also pulled the turn signal/hazard switch and am testing now. When
> the multi-function switch is plugged in the hazards work, but the
> turn signals do not.
>
> Before the above listed accessories stopped working completely, I
> could turn the key, ever so slightly, towards START and hear a buzzy
> sound and then everything would work again. This is what made me
> think a relay somewhere was in need of replacing.
>
> I've read within this news group of possible ground wire disconnects,
> a clockspring replaced in the steering wheel and a few other things.
> Does any one have any suggestions as to what to check for next?
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Pulling what's left of my hair out,
> Scott R.

mic canic

under the dr. side dash on the metal kickpanel is a stud sticking out
that should have some ground wires attached to it make sure they are
tight

"Scott R." wrote:

> 1998 TJ SE, AX-5, 72700 miles, outside of warranty help for this
> problem.
>
> I've been chasing an electrical problem for weeks now and am at a
> loss. Currently, the factory radio, cigar lighter, turn signals,
> wipers, 3 amp switched wire (behind glove box) are not functioning.
> I've since pulled my radio and speakers to trace continuity and look
> for relays. I've pulled and tested every fuse, behind glove box and
> the power distribution center.
>
> I've used the service manual to perform testing on the accessory
> relay and accessory relay wiring and all tests have passed. I've
> also tested any other relay I've run across, all have passed. Have
> also pulled the turn signal/hazard switch and am testing now. When
> the multi-function switch is plugged in the hazards work, but the
> turn signals do not.
>
> Before the above listed accessories stopped working completely, I
> could turn the key, ever so slightly, towards START and hear a buzzy
> sound and then everything would work again. This is what made me
> think a relay somewhere was in need of replacing.
>
> I've read within this news group of possible ground wire disconnects,
> a clockspring replaced in the steering wheel and a few other things.
> Does any one have any suggestions as to what to check for next?
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Pulling what's left of my hair out,
> Scott R.

mic canic

under the dr. side dash on the metal kickpanel is a stud sticking out
that should have some ground wires attached to it make sure they are
tight

"Scott R." wrote:

> 1998 TJ SE, AX-5, 72700 miles, outside of warranty help for this
> problem.
>
> I've been chasing an electrical problem for weeks now and am at a
> loss. Currently, the factory radio, cigar lighter, turn signals,
> wipers, 3 amp switched wire (behind glove box) are not functioning.
> I've since pulled my radio and speakers to trace continuity and look
> for relays. I've pulled and tested every fuse, behind glove box and
> the power distribution center.
>
> I've used the service manual to perform testing on the accessory
> relay and accessory relay wiring and all tests have passed. I've
> also tested any other relay I've run across, all have passed. Have
> also pulled the turn signal/hazard switch and am testing now. When
> the multi-function switch is plugged in the hazards work, but the
> turn signals do not.
>
> Before the above listed accessories stopped working completely, I
> could turn the key, ever so slightly, towards START and hear a buzzy
> sound and then everything would work again. This is what made me
> think a relay somewhere was in need of replacing.
>
> I've read within this news group of possible ground wire disconnects,
> a clockspring replaced in the steering wheel and a few other things.
> Does any one have any suggestions as to what to check for next?
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> Pulling what's left of my hair out,
> Scott R.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hmm, that sounds like Mike's infamous ground wires. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

mic canic wrote:
>
> under the dr. side dash on the metal kickpanel is a stud sticking out
> that should have some ground wires attached to it make sure they are
> tight