TJ Driving Lights to DRL?
#11
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Re: TJ Driving Lights to DRL?
They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
blinding at the same time.
I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
lights.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
>
> On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> (not on constantly)
> They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> that operates them.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > runners.
> >
> > Headlights are the best.
> >
> > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we aren't
> > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> >
> > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't know
> > but I doubt it.
> >
> > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as they
> > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before they
> > reach the end of the driveway.
> >
> > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > side one ditch biassed.
> >
> > Off road I aim them closer.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > MrDanOne wrote:
> >
> >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime running
> >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and have to
> >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has a few
> >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and sideroads (plus
> >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it also is
> >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I leave the
> >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks in
> >>advance.
blinding at the same time.
I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
lights.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
>
> On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> (not on constantly)
> They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> that operates them.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > runners.
> >
> > Headlights are the best.
> >
> > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we aren't
> > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> >
> > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't know
> > but I doubt it.
> >
> > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as they
> > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before they
> > reach the end of the driveway.
> >
> > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > side one ditch biassed.
> >
> > Off road I aim them closer.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > MrDanOne wrote:
> >
> >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime running
> >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and have to
> >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has a few
> >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and sideroads (plus
> >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it also is
> >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I leave the
> >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks in
> >>advance.
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Driving Lights to DRL?
They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
blinding at the same time.
I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
lights.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
>
> On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> (not on constantly)
> They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> that operates them.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > runners.
> >
> > Headlights are the best.
> >
> > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we aren't
> > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> >
> > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't know
> > but I doubt it.
> >
> > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as they
> > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before they
> > reach the end of the driveway.
> >
> > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > side one ditch biassed.
> >
> > Off road I aim them closer.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > MrDanOne wrote:
> >
> >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime running
> >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and have to
> >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has a few
> >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and sideroads (plus
> >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it also is
> >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I leave the
> >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks in
> >>advance.
blinding at the same time.
I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
lights.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
>
> On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> (not on constantly)
> They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> that operates them.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > runners.
> >
> > Headlights are the best.
> >
> > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we aren't
> > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> >
> > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't know
> > but I doubt it.
> >
> > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as they
> > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before they
> > reach the end of the driveway.
> >
> > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > side one ditch biassed.
> >
> > Off road I aim them closer.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > MrDanOne wrote:
> >
> >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime running
> >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and have to
> >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has a few
> >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and sideroads (plus
> >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it also is
> >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I leave the
> >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks in
> >>advance.
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Driving Lights to DRL?
They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
blinding at the same time.
I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
lights.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
>
> On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> (not on constantly)
> They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> that operates them.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > runners.
> >
> > Headlights are the best.
> >
> > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we aren't
> > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> >
> > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't know
> > but I doubt it.
> >
> > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as they
> > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before they
> > reach the end of the driveway.
> >
> > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > side one ditch biassed.
> >
> > Off road I aim them closer.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > MrDanOne wrote:
> >
> >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime running
> >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and have to
> >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has a few
> >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and sideroads (plus
> >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it also is
> >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I leave the
> >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks in
> >>advance.
blinding at the same time.
I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
lights.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
>
> On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> (not on constantly)
> They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> that operates them.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > runners.
> >
> > Headlights are the best.
> >
> > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we aren't
> > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> >
> > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't know
> > but I doubt it.
> >
> > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as they
> > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before they
> > reach the end of the driveway.
> >
> > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > side one ditch biassed.
> >
> > Off road I aim them closer.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > MrDanOne wrote:
> >
> >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime running
> >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and have to
> >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has a few
> >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and sideroads (plus
> >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it also is
> >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I leave the
> >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks in
> >>advance.
#14
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Re: TJ Driving Lights to DRL?
I, for one, particularly despise the usage of high beams for DRLs. I
shamefully have taken to high beaming them back when they are particularly
blinding to me and I am not hurting other folks incidentally. They of
course have no clue why I did that as I see them brake for that cop that is
not there.... In the USA this would be GM, Toyota and BMW vehicles. The
BMWs' are especially deadly. Argh.
I am thinking that the answer to the OP's question would be how to rig it so
the low beams always come on when the ignition is on and go off when it is
turned off. I would be interested in this as well for my use in my 2002 USA
TJ. My 98 Toyota Sienna has a headlight setting that does exactly this, low
beams on when turned on and turns off when the ignition is turned off and
the drivers' door opened (which means that the battery runs out when the
radio is turned on via the passenger door [been there, lol]).
How did this high beam thing get legal anyway? Is this not failure to dim
high beams to oncoming traffic? Sure it is lower power, but as Mike notes
it is the aim not the power. Blind me but only half way. Stick a knife
into my heart but only halfway. Sheesh.
Sorry for the rant, but I see this as a top problem on the roads today and
it frustrates me no end as it keeps propagating....
Chagrinned Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40EC4EA3.6FA2051F@sympatico.ca...
> They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
> blinding at the same time.
>
> I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
> lights.
>
> Mike
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> > Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> > (not on constantly)
> > They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> > Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> > that operates them.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > > runners.
> > >
> > > Headlights are the best.
> > >
> > > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we
aren't
> > > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> > >
> > > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't
know
> > > but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as
they
> > > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before
they
> > > reach the end of the driveway.
> > >
> > > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > > side one ditch biassed.
> > >
> > > Off road I aim them closer.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > MrDanOne wrote:
> > >
> > >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime
running
> > >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and
have to
> > >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has
a few
> > >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and
sideroads (plus
> > >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> > >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it
also is
> > >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I
leave the
> > >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks
in
> > >>advance.
shamefully have taken to high beaming them back when they are particularly
blinding to me and I am not hurting other folks incidentally. They of
course have no clue why I did that as I see them brake for that cop that is
not there.... In the USA this would be GM, Toyota and BMW vehicles. The
BMWs' are especially deadly. Argh.
I am thinking that the answer to the OP's question would be how to rig it so
the low beams always come on when the ignition is on and go off when it is
turned off. I would be interested in this as well for my use in my 2002 USA
TJ. My 98 Toyota Sienna has a headlight setting that does exactly this, low
beams on when turned on and turns off when the ignition is turned off and
the drivers' door opened (which means that the battery runs out when the
radio is turned on via the passenger door [been there, lol]).
How did this high beam thing get legal anyway? Is this not failure to dim
high beams to oncoming traffic? Sure it is lower power, but as Mike notes
it is the aim not the power. Blind me but only half way. Stick a knife
into my heart but only halfway. Sheesh.
Sorry for the rant, but I see this as a top problem on the roads today and
it frustrates me no end as it keeps propagating....
Chagrinned Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40EC4EA3.6FA2051F@sympatico.ca...
> They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
> blinding at the same time.
>
> I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
> lights.
>
> Mike
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> > Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> > (not on constantly)
> > They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> > Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> > that operates them.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > > runners.
> > >
> > > Headlights are the best.
> > >
> > > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we
aren't
> > > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> > >
> > > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't
know
> > > but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as
they
> > > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before
they
> > > reach the end of the driveway.
> > >
> > > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > > side one ditch biassed.
> > >
> > > Off road I aim them closer.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > MrDanOne wrote:
> > >
> > >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime
running
> > >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and
have to
> > >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has
a few
> > >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and
sideroads (plus
> > >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> > >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it
also is
> > >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I
leave the
> > >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks
in
> > >>advance.
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Driving Lights to DRL?
I, for one, particularly despise the usage of high beams for DRLs. I
shamefully have taken to high beaming them back when they are particularly
blinding to me and I am not hurting other folks incidentally. They of
course have no clue why I did that as I see them brake for that cop that is
not there.... In the USA this would be GM, Toyota and BMW vehicles. The
BMWs' are especially deadly. Argh.
I am thinking that the answer to the OP's question would be how to rig it so
the low beams always come on when the ignition is on and go off when it is
turned off. I would be interested in this as well for my use in my 2002 USA
TJ. My 98 Toyota Sienna has a headlight setting that does exactly this, low
beams on when turned on and turns off when the ignition is turned off and
the drivers' door opened (which means that the battery runs out when the
radio is turned on via the passenger door [been there, lol]).
How did this high beam thing get legal anyway? Is this not failure to dim
high beams to oncoming traffic? Sure it is lower power, but as Mike notes
it is the aim not the power. Blind me but only half way. Stick a knife
into my heart but only halfway. Sheesh.
Sorry for the rant, but I see this as a top problem on the roads today and
it frustrates me no end as it keeps propagating....
Chagrinned Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40EC4EA3.6FA2051F@sympatico.ca...
> They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
> blinding at the same time.
>
> I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
> lights.
>
> Mike
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> > Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> > (not on constantly)
> > They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> > Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> > that operates them.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > > runners.
> > >
> > > Headlights are the best.
> > >
> > > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we
aren't
> > > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> > >
> > > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't
know
> > > but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as
they
> > > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before
they
> > > reach the end of the driveway.
> > >
> > > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > > side one ditch biassed.
> > >
> > > Off road I aim them closer.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > MrDanOne wrote:
> > >
> > >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime
running
> > >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and
have to
> > >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has
a few
> > >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and
sideroads (plus
> > >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> > >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it
also is
> > >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I
leave the
> > >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks
in
> > >>advance.
shamefully have taken to high beaming them back when they are particularly
blinding to me and I am not hurting other folks incidentally. They of
course have no clue why I did that as I see them brake for that cop that is
not there.... In the USA this would be GM, Toyota and BMW vehicles. The
BMWs' are especially deadly. Argh.
I am thinking that the answer to the OP's question would be how to rig it so
the low beams always come on when the ignition is on and go off when it is
turned off. I would be interested in this as well for my use in my 2002 USA
TJ. My 98 Toyota Sienna has a headlight setting that does exactly this, low
beams on when turned on and turns off when the ignition is turned off and
the drivers' door opened (which means that the battery runs out when the
radio is turned on via the passenger door [been there, lol]).
How did this high beam thing get legal anyway? Is this not failure to dim
high beams to oncoming traffic? Sure it is lower power, but as Mike notes
it is the aim not the power. Blind me but only half way. Stick a knife
into my heart but only halfway. Sheesh.
Sorry for the rant, but I see this as a top problem on the roads today and
it frustrates me no end as it keeps propagating....
Chagrinned Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40EC4EA3.6FA2051F@sympatico.ca...
> They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
> blinding at the same time.
>
> I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
> lights.
>
> Mike
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> > Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> > (not on constantly)
> > They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> > Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> > that operates them.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > > runners.
> > >
> > > Headlights are the best.
> > >
> > > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we
aren't
> > > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> > >
> > > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't
know
> > > but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as
they
> > > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before
they
> > > reach the end of the driveway.
> > >
> > > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > > side one ditch biassed.
> > >
> > > Off road I aim them closer.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > MrDanOne wrote:
> > >
> > >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime
running
> > >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and
have to
> > >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has
a few
> > >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and
sideroads (plus
> > >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> > >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it
also is
> > >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I
leave the
> > >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks
in
> > >>advance.
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Driving Lights to DRL?
I, for one, particularly despise the usage of high beams for DRLs. I
shamefully have taken to high beaming them back when they are particularly
blinding to me and I am not hurting other folks incidentally. They of
course have no clue why I did that as I see them brake for that cop that is
not there.... In the USA this would be GM, Toyota and BMW vehicles. The
BMWs' are especially deadly. Argh.
I am thinking that the answer to the OP's question would be how to rig it so
the low beams always come on when the ignition is on and go off when it is
turned off. I would be interested in this as well for my use in my 2002 USA
TJ. My 98 Toyota Sienna has a headlight setting that does exactly this, low
beams on when turned on and turns off when the ignition is turned off and
the drivers' door opened (which means that the battery runs out when the
radio is turned on via the passenger door [been there, lol]).
How did this high beam thing get legal anyway? Is this not failure to dim
high beams to oncoming traffic? Sure it is lower power, but as Mike notes
it is the aim not the power. Blind me but only half way. Stick a knife
into my heart but only halfway. Sheesh.
Sorry for the rant, but I see this as a top problem on the roads today and
it frustrates me no end as it keeps propagating....
Chagrinned Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40EC4EA3.6FA2051F@sympatico.ca...
> They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
> blinding at the same time.
>
> I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
> lights.
>
> Mike
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> > Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> > (not on constantly)
> > They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> > Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> > that operates them.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > > runners.
> > >
> > > Headlights are the best.
> > >
> > > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we
aren't
> > > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> > >
> > > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't
know
> > > but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as
they
> > > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before
they
> > > reach the end of the driveway.
> > >
> > > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > > side one ditch biassed.
> > >
> > > Off road I aim them closer.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > MrDanOne wrote:
> > >
> > >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime
running
> > >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and
have to
> > >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has
a few
> > >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and
sideroads (plus
> > >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> > >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it
also is
> > >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I
leave the
> > >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks
in
> > >>advance.
shamefully have taken to high beaming them back when they are particularly
blinding to me and I am not hurting other folks incidentally. They of
course have no clue why I did that as I see them brake for that cop that is
not there.... In the USA this would be GM, Toyota and BMW vehicles. The
BMWs' are especially deadly. Argh.
I am thinking that the answer to the OP's question would be how to rig it so
the low beams always come on when the ignition is on and go off when it is
turned off. I would be interested in this as well for my use in my 2002 USA
TJ. My 98 Toyota Sienna has a headlight setting that does exactly this, low
beams on when turned on and turns off when the ignition is turned off and
the drivers' door opened (which means that the battery runs out when the
radio is turned on via the passenger door [been there, lol]).
How did this high beam thing get legal anyway? Is this not failure to dim
high beams to oncoming traffic? Sure it is lower power, but as Mike notes
it is the aim not the power. Blind me but only half way. Stick a knife
into my heart but only halfway. Sheesh.
Sorry for the rant, but I see this as a top problem on the roads today and
it frustrates me no end as it keeps propagating....
Chagrinned Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40EC4EA3.6FA2051F@sympatico.ca...
> They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
> blinding at the same time.
>
> I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
> lights.
>
> Mike
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> > Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> > (not on constantly)
> > They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> > Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> > that operates them.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > > runners.
> > >
> > > Headlights are the best.
> > >
> > > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we
aren't
> > > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> > >
> > > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't
know
> > > but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as
they
> > > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before
they
> > > reach the end of the driveway.
> > >
> > > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > > side one ditch biassed.
> > >
> > > Off road I aim them closer.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > MrDanOne wrote:
> > >
> > >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime
running
> > >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and
have to
> > >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has
a few
> > >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and
sideroads (plus
> > >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> > >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it
also is
> > >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I
leave the
> > >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks
in
> > >>advance.
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: TJ Driving Lights to DRL?
I, for one, particularly despise the usage of high beams for DRLs. I
shamefully have taken to high beaming them back when they are particularly
blinding to me and I am not hurting other folks incidentally. They of
course have no clue why I did that as I see them brake for that cop that is
not there.... In the USA this would be GM, Toyota and BMW vehicles. The
BMWs' are especially deadly. Argh.
I am thinking that the answer to the OP's question would be how to rig it so
the low beams always come on when the ignition is on and go off when it is
turned off. I would be interested in this as well for my use in my 2002 USA
TJ. My 98 Toyota Sienna has a headlight setting that does exactly this, low
beams on when turned on and turns off when the ignition is turned off and
the drivers' door opened (which means that the battery runs out when the
radio is turned on via the passenger door [been there, lol]).
How did this high beam thing get legal anyway? Is this not failure to dim
high beams to oncoming traffic? Sure it is lower power, but as Mike notes
it is the aim not the power. Blind me but only half way. Stick a knife
into my heart but only halfway. Sheesh.
Sorry for the rant, but I see this as a top problem on the roads today and
it frustrates me no end as it keeps propagating....
Chagrinned Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40EC4EA3.6FA2051F@sympatico.ca...
> They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
> blinding at the same time.
>
> I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
> lights.
>
> Mike
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> > Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> > (not on constantly)
> > They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> > Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> > that operates them.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > > runners.
> > >
> > > Headlights are the best.
> > >
> > > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we
aren't
> > > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> > >
> > > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't
know
> > > but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as
they
> > > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before
they
> > > reach the end of the driveway.
> > >
> > > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > > side one ditch biassed.
> > >
> > > Off road I aim them closer.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > MrDanOne wrote:
> > >
> > >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime
running
> > >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and
have to
> > >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has
a few
> > >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and
sideroads (plus
> > >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> > >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it
also is
> > >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I
leave the
> > >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks
in
> > >>advance.
shamefully have taken to high beaming them back when they are particularly
blinding to me and I am not hurting other folks incidentally. They of
course have no clue why I did that as I see them brake for that cop that is
not there.... In the USA this would be GM, Toyota and BMW vehicles. The
BMWs' are especially deadly. Argh.
I am thinking that the answer to the OP's question would be how to rig it so
the low beams always come on when the ignition is on and go off when it is
turned off. I would be interested in this as well for my use in my 2002 USA
TJ. My 98 Toyota Sienna has a headlight setting that does exactly this, low
beams on when turned on and turns off when the ignition is turned off and
the drivers' door opened (which means that the battery runs out when the
radio is turned on via the passenger door [been there, lol]).
How did this high beam thing get legal anyway? Is this not failure to dim
high beams to oncoming traffic? Sure it is lower power, but as Mike notes
it is the aim not the power. Blind me but only half way. Stick a knife
into my heart but only halfway. Sheesh.
Sorry for the rant, but I see this as a top problem on the roads today and
it frustrates me no end as it keeps propagating....
Chagrinned Tomes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40EC4EA3.6FA2051F@sympatico.ca...
> They are the high beams on half power and are kinda useless. Dim and
> blinding at the same time.
>
> I see more people driving at night now forgetting to turn on their real
> lights.
>
> Mike
>
> FrankW wrote:
> >
> > On the new TJs the daytime lights are in fact the headlights
> > Running at a 50% duty cycle or something like that.
> > (not on constantly)
> > They come on after moving forward 3 feet. FYI :-)
> > Only Jeeps in Canada have them. I believe it's a relay
> > that operates them.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > The stock 'driving lights' are really fog lights aren't they. If not,
> > > then they are high beams so in either case are useless for daytime
> > > runners.
> > >
> > > Headlights are the best.
> > >
> > > The daytime runners are only imposed because big brother knows we
aren't
> > > smart enough to drive with the lights on.
> > >
> > > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to put a relay on the headlights so
> > > the ignition has to be on. Weather this is safe or legal, I don't
know
> > > but I doubt it.
> > >
> > > I drive a lot on rural roads and have real driving lights. When on
> > > these roads, I aim my driving lights at the ditches as far ahead as
they
> > > are effective. This lights up animals and fools pulling out before
they
> > > reach the end of the driveway.
> > >
> > > When I am mainly highway cruising, I aim my lights more on the road,
> > > well the drivers side one back onto the road anyway with the passenger
> > > side one ditch biassed.
> > >
> > > Off road I aim them closer.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > MrDanOne wrote:
> > >
> > >>Has anyone know how to change the TJs driving lights to daytime
running
> > >>lights? I have a 03 Sport. I've recently moved to a rural area, and
have to
> > >>drive a good distance on a secondary road. The road is hilly and has
a few
> > >>blind corners, add in foks pulling out of their driveways and
sideroads (plus
> > >>deer) and it makes going and coming home quite an adventure.
> > >>I pulled the interior light fuse so I can take my doors but I guess it
also is
> > >>the fuse for the headlight buzzer, because it never goes off when I
leave the
> > >>headlights on. At any rate anyone know how I could do this? Thanks
in
> > >>advance.