Mike Romain

JD wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:07:09 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >A gent from this group, Steve Seppala just posted in another forum that
> >his bike mirrors he has in the hinge holes are working fine still after
> >3 or 4 years.
> >
> >They are generic mirrors that will fit a Harley and cost him $15.00
> >each.
> >
> >Even if any mirror that fits in the hinge hole chips some pain, you
> >won't be able to see it. Either the mirror is there or the door is
> >there.
> >
> >Then another friend with a TJ was over last week crying the blues
> >because he only got 3 out of 4 bolts out. One just stripped the torx
> >guts out.
> >
> >I think that is a paint issue. Folks use one size too small of a torx
> >because the correct size means the paint must be removed from the hole
> >before it will fit.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >"Fred W." wrote:
> >>
> >> Decent weather has finally arrived in northern New England and along with
> >> storing the snowblower I've been hankering to yank the full-doors off my TJ,
> >> but don't have anything set-up for side view mirrors yet.
> >>
> >> I'm looking at either a set of mirror relo brackets, some new CJ-style
> >> mirrors (either of which mount on the windshield hinge) or the safari style
> >> mirrors that just go in the hinge bracket when the doors are off. I think I
> >> know which way I want to go, but would be interested to hear others'
> >> opinions.
> >>
> >> Oh, and in case this matters, the Jeep is only used to bop around town and
> >> for offroad fun. No significant highway miles t' speak of. No commmuting.
> >>
> >> Personal experience, Pros and Cons and how they are holding up would be
> >> greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >> Fred W
> >> '98 TJ Sport 5 speed
>
> Since I'm about to do the same here in MN, would someone tell me what
> fuse to pull to kill the lights when the doors are off. BTY, thanks
> for the tip on bike mirrors, I was wondering about that.
> JD
> 2K-TJ

Fuse 4 kills the switches and the bells and whistles that go with them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

JD wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:07:09 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >A gent from this group, Steve Seppala just posted in another forum that
> >his bike mirrors he has in the hinge holes are working fine still after
> >3 or 4 years.
> >
> >They are generic mirrors that will fit a Harley and cost him $15.00
> >each.
> >
> >Even if any mirror that fits in the hinge hole chips some pain, you
> >won't be able to see it. Either the mirror is there or the door is
> >there.
> >
> >Then another friend with a TJ was over last week crying the blues
> >because he only got 3 out of 4 bolts out. One just stripped the torx
> >guts out.
> >
> >I think that is a paint issue. Folks use one size too small of a torx
> >because the correct size means the paint must be removed from the hole
> >before it will fit.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >"Fred W." wrote:
> >>
> >> Decent weather has finally arrived in northern New England and along with
> >> storing the snowblower I've been hankering to yank the full-doors off my TJ,
> >> but don't have anything set-up for side view mirrors yet.
> >>
> >> I'm looking at either a set of mirror relo brackets, some new CJ-style
> >> mirrors (either of which mount on the windshield hinge) or the safari style
> >> mirrors that just go in the hinge bracket when the doors are off. I think I
> >> know which way I want to go, but would be interested to hear others'
> >> opinions.
> >>
> >> Oh, and in case this matters, the Jeep is only used to bop around town and
> >> for offroad fun. No significant highway miles t' speak of. No commmuting.
> >>
> >> Personal experience, Pros and Cons and how they are holding up would be
> >> greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >> Fred W
> >> '98 TJ Sport 5 speed
>
> Since I'm about to do the same here in MN, would someone tell me what
> fuse to pull to kill the lights when the doors are off. BTY, thanks
> for the tip on bike mirrors, I was wondering about that.
> JD
> 2K-TJ

Fuse 4 kills the switches and the bells and whistles that go with them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

JD wrote:
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:07:09 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >A gent from this group, Steve Seppala just posted in another forum that
> >his bike mirrors he has in the hinge holes are working fine still after
> >3 or 4 years.
> >
> >They are generic mirrors that will fit a Harley and cost him $15.00
> >each.
> >
> >Even if any mirror that fits in the hinge hole chips some pain, you
> >won't be able to see it. Either the mirror is there or the door is
> >there.
> >
> >Then another friend with a TJ was over last week crying the blues
> >because he only got 3 out of 4 bolts out. One just stripped the torx
> >guts out.
> >
> >I think that is a paint issue. Folks use one size too small of a torx
> >because the correct size means the paint must be removed from the hole
> >before it will fit.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >"Fred W." wrote:
> >>
> >> Decent weather has finally arrived in northern New England and along with
> >> storing the snowblower I've been hankering to yank the full-doors off my TJ,
> >> but don't have anything set-up for side view mirrors yet.
> >>
> >> I'm looking at either a set of mirror relo brackets, some new CJ-style
> >> mirrors (either of which mount on the windshield hinge) or the safari style
> >> mirrors that just go in the hinge bracket when the doors are off. I think I
> >> know which way I want to go, but would be interested to hear others'
> >> opinions.
> >>
> >> Oh, and in case this matters, the Jeep is only used to bop around town and
> >> for offroad fun. No significant highway miles t' speak of. No commmuting.
> >>
> >> Personal experience, Pros and Cons and how they are holding up would be
> >> greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >> Fred W
> >> '98 TJ Sport 5 speed
>
> Since I'm about to do the same here in MN, would someone tell me what
> fuse to pull to kill the lights when the doors are off. BTY, thanks
> for the tip on bike mirrors, I was wondering about that.
> JD
> 2K-TJ

Fuse 4 kills the switches and the bells and whistles that go with them.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

JD

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:07:09 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>A gent from this group, Steve Seppala just posted in another forum that
>his bike mirrors he has in the hinge holes are working fine still after
>3 or 4 years.
>
>They are generic mirrors that will fit a Harley and cost him $15.00
>each.
>
>Even if any mirror that fits in the hinge hole chips some pain, you
>won't be able to see it. Either the mirror is there or the door is
>there.
>
>Then another friend with a TJ was over last week crying the blues
>because he only got 3 out of 4 bolts out. One just stripped the torx
>guts out.
>
>I think that is a paint issue. Folks use one size too small of a torx
>because the correct size means the paint must be removed from the hole
>before it will fit.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>"Fred W." wrote:
>>
>> Decent weather has finally arrived in northern New England and along with
>> storing the snowblower I've been hankering to yank the full-doors off my TJ,
>> but don't have anything set-up for side view mirrors yet.
>>
>> I'm looking at either a set of mirror relo brackets, some new CJ-style
>> mirrors (either of which mount on the windshield hinge) or the safari style
>> mirrors that just go in the hinge bracket when the doors are off. I think I
>> know which way I want to go, but would be interested to hear others'
>> opinions.
>>
>> Oh, and in case this matters, the Jeep is only used to bop around town and
>> for offroad fun. No significant highway miles t' speak of. No commmuting.
>>
>> Personal experience, Pros and Cons and how they are holding up would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Fred W
>> '98 TJ Sport 5 speed



Since I'm about to do the same here in MN, would someone tell me what
fuse to pull to kill the lights when the doors are off. BTY, thanks
for the tip on bike mirrors, I was wondering about that.
JD
2K-TJ

"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

JD

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:07:09 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>A gent from this group, Steve Seppala just posted in another forum that
>his bike mirrors he has in the hinge holes are working fine still after
>3 or 4 years.
>
>They are generic mirrors that will fit a Harley and cost him $15.00
>each.
>
>Even if any mirror that fits in the hinge hole chips some pain, you
>won't be able to see it. Either the mirror is there or the door is
>there.
>
>Then another friend with a TJ was over last week crying the blues
>because he only got 3 out of 4 bolts out. One just stripped the torx
>guts out.
>
>I think that is a paint issue. Folks use one size too small of a torx
>because the correct size means the paint must be removed from the hole
>before it will fit.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>"Fred W." wrote:
>>
>> Decent weather has finally arrived in northern New England and along with
>> storing the snowblower I've been hankering to yank the full-doors off my TJ,
>> but don't have anything set-up for side view mirrors yet.
>>
>> I'm looking at either a set of mirror relo brackets, some new CJ-style
>> mirrors (either of which mount on the windshield hinge) or the safari style
>> mirrors that just go in the hinge bracket when the doors are off. I think I
>> know which way I want to go, but would be interested to hear others'
>> opinions.
>>
>> Oh, and in case this matters, the Jeep is only used to bop around town and
>> for offroad fun. No significant highway miles t' speak of. No commmuting.
>>
>> Personal experience, Pros and Cons and how they are holding up would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Fred W
>> '98 TJ Sport 5 speed



Since I'm about to do the same here in MN, would someone tell me what
fuse to pull to kill the lights when the doors are off. BTY, thanks
for the tip on bike mirrors, I was wondering about that.
JD
2K-TJ

"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

JD

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:07:09 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>A gent from this group, Steve Seppala just posted in another forum that
>his bike mirrors he has in the hinge holes are working fine still after
>3 or 4 years.
>
>They are generic mirrors that will fit a Harley and cost him $15.00
>each.
>
>Even if any mirror that fits in the hinge hole chips some pain, you
>won't be able to see it. Either the mirror is there or the door is
>there.
>
>Then another friend with a TJ was over last week crying the blues
>because he only got 3 out of 4 bolts out. One just stripped the torx
>guts out.
>
>I think that is a paint issue. Folks use one size too small of a torx
>because the correct size means the paint must be removed from the hole
>before it will fit.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>"Fred W." wrote:
>>
>> Decent weather has finally arrived in northern New England and along with
>> storing the snowblower I've been hankering to yank the full-doors off my TJ,
>> but don't have anything set-up for side view mirrors yet.
>>
>> I'm looking at either a set of mirror relo brackets, some new CJ-style
>> mirrors (either of which mount on the windshield hinge) or the safari style
>> mirrors that just go in the hinge bracket when the doors are off. I think I
>> know which way I want to go, but would be interested to hear others'
>> opinions.
>>
>> Oh, and in case this matters, the Jeep is only used to bop around town and
>> for offroad fun. No significant highway miles t' speak of. No commmuting.
>>
>> Personal experience, Pros and Cons and how they are holding up would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Fred W
>> '98 TJ Sport 5 speed



Since I'm about to do the same here in MN, would someone tell me what
fuse to pull to kill the lights when the doors are off. BTY, thanks
for the tip on bike mirrors, I was wondering about that.
JD
2K-TJ

"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

JD

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:07:09 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>A gent from this group, Steve Seppala just posted in another forum that
>his bike mirrors he has in the hinge holes are working fine still after
>3 or 4 years.
>
>They are generic mirrors that will fit a Harley and cost him $15.00
>each.
>
>Even if any mirror that fits in the hinge hole chips some pain, you
>won't be able to see it. Either the mirror is there or the door is
>there.
>
>Then another friend with a TJ was over last week crying the blues
>because he only got 3 out of 4 bolts out. One just stripped the torx
>guts out.
>
>I think that is a paint issue. Folks use one size too small of a torx
>because the correct size means the paint must be removed from the hole
>before it will fit.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>"Fred W." wrote:
>>
>> Decent weather has finally arrived in northern New England and along with
>> storing the snowblower I've been hankering to yank the full-doors off my TJ,
>> but don't have anything set-up for side view mirrors yet.
>>
>> I'm looking at either a set of mirror relo brackets, some new CJ-style
>> mirrors (either of which mount on the windshield hinge) or the safari style
>> mirrors that just go in the hinge bracket when the doors are off. I think I
>> know which way I want to go, but would be interested to hear others'
>> opinions.
>>
>> Oh, and in case this matters, the Jeep is only used to bop around town and
>> for offroad fun. No significant highway miles t' speak of. No commmuting.
>>
>> Personal experience, Pros and Cons and how they are holding up would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Fred W
>> '98 TJ Sport 5 speed



Since I'm about to do the same here in MN, would someone tell me what
fuse to pull to kill the lights when the doors are off. BTY, thanks
for the tip on bike mirrors, I was wondering about that.
JD
2K-TJ

"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer

twaldron

Mine came out without major issues. I only did the driver's side due to
the inability to see the passenger...I _may_ do it someday.

Endo wrote:

> Everyone has been going on about how hard it is to remove the winshield
> hinge torx screws and it's kinda scared me away from the relocation
> brackets. I been thinking about the ones that just drop in the hinge but
> i'm worried about how well it fits and whether it has the chance to rub away
> a patch of paint on the hinge. I say that 'cus the ones i've looked at seem
> to have a block of metal that keeps the mirror from moving front to back.
> I'd like to hear more on this subject too.
>
> Shawn

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tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

Mine came out without major issues. I only did the driver's side due to
the inability to see the passenger...I _may_ do it someday.

Endo wrote:

> Everyone has been going on about how hard it is to remove the winshield
> hinge torx screws and it's kinda scared me away from the relocation
> brackets. I been thinking about the ones that just drop in the hinge but
> i'm worried about how well it fits and whether it has the chance to rub away
> a patch of paint on the hinge. I say that 'cus the ones i've looked at seem
> to have a block of metal that keeps the mirror from moving front to back.
> I'd like to hear more on this subject too.
>
> Shawn

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

Mine came out without major issues. I only did the driver's side due to
the inability to see the passenger...I _may_ do it someday.

Endo wrote:

> Everyone has been going on about how hard it is to remove the winshield
> hinge torx screws and it's kinda scared me away from the relocation
> brackets. I been thinking about the ones that just drop in the hinge but
> i'm worried about how well it fits and whether it has the chance to rub away
> a patch of paint on the hinge. I say that 'cus the ones i've looked at seem
> to have a block of metal that keeps the mirror from moving front to back.
> I'd like to hear more on this subject too.
>
> Shawn

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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