Brandy Wood

Yeah bill yer right like i said i will be a lil more detailed in replying
next time. thanks
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:413CADBB.E7B2828A@***.net...
> Horizontal to the horizon, but perpendicular to the cliff while
> driving vertically.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > When you say "vertically" I envision cust that run parallel to the
> > tread...perhaps that's not what you meant. Siping makes cuts across the
> > tread, i.e horizontally.

Mike Romain

I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!

The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(

I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
least!

I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

griffin wrote:
>
> I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho it
> isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely be
> used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a big
> necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at all
> ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't want
> it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan to
> keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what would
> you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks!

Mike Romain

I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!

The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(

I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
least!

I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

griffin wrote:
>
> I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho it
> isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely be
> used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a big
> necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at all
> ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't want
> it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan to
> keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what would
> you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks!

Mike Romain

I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!

The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(

I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
least!

I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

griffin wrote:
>
> I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho it
> isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely be
> used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a big
> necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at all
> ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't want
> it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan to
> keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what would
> you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
>
> Thanks!

griffin

So your saying that for just mudding, the thinner 9.5's are better? I kinda
figured this would be the case for basic mud trailing since my dad's tires
on his Flathead 4 *****'s were super thin and it was pretty good in the mud.
But ya, I know what you mean about the mud-spray. I took some buddies out
once in the '88 YJ and even though my tires fit under my flares, the grooves
in my tires were in such a way that anytime I hit water or mud, it seemed to
spray out sideways like normal but then curl around right into the
windshield. It was awesome for drenching the passengers and turning the
inside of my Jeep into a mudbath, but the 15 seconds of being completely
blind on the windshield wasn't cool.

I'd almost rather a stock fit under my flares anyways as some RCMP here are
not so forgiving for the tires sticking out past the flares. So maybe 9.5's
it is ...?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:413DFBAE.9D12585D@sympatico.ca...
> I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!
>
> The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
> tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(
>
> I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
> least!
>
> I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
> and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> griffin wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> > unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho
it
> > isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely
be
> > used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a
big
> > necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at
all
> > ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> > grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> > ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't
want
> > it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> > chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan
to
> > keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what
would
> > you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> > 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!

griffin

So your saying that for just mudding, the thinner 9.5's are better? I kinda
figured this would be the case for basic mud trailing since my dad's tires
on his Flathead 4 *****'s were super thin and it was pretty good in the mud.
But ya, I know what you mean about the mud-spray. I took some buddies out
once in the '88 YJ and even though my tires fit under my flares, the grooves
in my tires were in such a way that anytime I hit water or mud, it seemed to
spray out sideways like normal but then curl around right into the
windshield. It was awesome for drenching the passengers and turning the
inside of my Jeep into a mudbath, but the 15 seconds of being completely
blind on the windshield wasn't cool.

I'd almost rather a stock fit under my flares anyways as some RCMP here are
not so forgiving for the tires sticking out past the flares. So maybe 9.5's
it is ...?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:413DFBAE.9D12585D@sympatico.ca...
> I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!
>
> The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
> tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(
>
> I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
> least!
>
> I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
> and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> griffin wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> > unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho
it
> > isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely
be
> > used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a
big
> > necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at
all
> > ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> > grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> > ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't
want
> > it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> > chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan
to
> > keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what
would
> > you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> > 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!

griffin

So your saying that for just mudding, the thinner 9.5's are better? I kinda
figured this would be the case for basic mud trailing since my dad's tires
on his Flathead 4 *****'s were super thin and it was pretty good in the mud.
But ya, I know what you mean about the mud-spray. I took some buddies out
once in the '88 YJ and even though my tires fit under my flares, the grooves
in my tires were in such a way that anytime I hit water or mud, it seemed to
spray out sideways like normal but then curl around right into the
windshield. It was awesome for drenching the passengers and turning the
inside of my Jeep into a mudbath, but the 15 seconds of being completely
blind on the windshield wasn't cool.

I'd almost rather a stock fit under my flares anyways as some RCMP here are
not so forgiving for the tires sticking out past the flares. So maybe 9.5's
it is ...?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:413DFBAE.9D12585D@sympatico.ca...
> I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!
>
> The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
> tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(
>
> I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
> least!
>
> I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
> and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> griffin wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> > unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho
it
> > isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely
be
> > used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a
big
> > necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at
all
> > ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> > grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> > ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't
want
> > it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> > chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan
to
> > keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what
would
> > you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> > 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!

Mike Romain

There also was a radical snow traction improvement and as you noted, the
military Jeeps use tall skinny, so do all the loggers in the bush.

Mike

griffin wrote:
>
> So your saying that for just mudding, the thinner 9.5's are better? I kinda
> figured this would be the case for basic mud trailing since my dad's tires
> on his Flathead 4 *****'s were super thin and it was pretty good in the mud.
> But ya, I know what you mean about the mud-spray. I took some buddies out
> once in the '88 YJ and even though my tires fit under my flares, the grooves
> in my tires were in such a way that anytime I hit water or mud, it seemed to
> spray out sideways like normal but then curl around right into the
> windshield. It was awesome for drenching the passengers and turning the
> inside of my Jeep into a mudbath, but the 15 seconds of being completely
> blind on the windshield wasn't cool.
>
> I'd almost rather a stock fit under my flares anyways as some RCMP here are
> not so forgiving for the tires sticking out past the flares. So maybe 9.5's
> it is ...?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:413DFBAE.9D12585D@sympatico.ca...
> > I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!
> >
> > The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
> > tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(
> >
> > I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
> > least!
> >
> > I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
> > and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > griffin wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> > > unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho
> it
> > > isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely
> be
> > > used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a
> big
> > > necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at
> all
> > > ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> > > grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> > > ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't
> want
> > > it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> > > chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan
> to
> > > keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what
> would
> > > you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> > > 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks!

Mike Romain

There also was a radical snow traction improvement and as you noted, the
military Jeeps use tall skinny, so do all the loggers in the bush.

Mike

griffin wrote:
>
> So your saying that for just mudding, the thinner 9.5's are better? I kinda
> figured this would be the case for basic mud trailing since my dad's tires
> on his Flathead 4 *****'s were super thin and it was pretty good in the mud.
> But ya, I know what you mean about the mud-spray. I took some buddies out
> once in the '88 YJ and even though my tires fit under my flares, the grooves
> in my tires were in such a way that anytime I hit water or mud, it seemed to
> spray out sideways like normal but then curl around right into the
> windshield. It was awesome for drenching the passengers and turning the
> inside of my Jeep into a mudbath, but the 15 seconds of being completely
> blind on the windshield wasn't cool.
>
> I'd almost rather a stock fit under my flares anyways as some RCMP here are
> not so forgiving for the tires sticking out past the flares. So maybe 9.5's
> it is ...?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:413DFBAE.9D12585D@sympatico.ca...
> > I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!
> >
> > The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
> > tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(
> >
> > I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
> > least!
> >
> > I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
> > and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > griffin wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> > > unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho
> it
> > > isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely
> be
> > > used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a
> big
> > > necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at
> all
> > > ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> > > grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> > > ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't
> want
> > > it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> > > chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan
> to
> > > keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what
> would
> > > you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> > > 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks!

Mike Romain

There also was a radical snow traction improvement and as you noted, the
military Jeeps use tall skinny, so do all the loggers in the bush.

Mike

griffin wrote:
>
> So your saying that for just mudding, the thinner 9.5's are better? I kinda
> figured this would be the case for basic mud trailing since my dad's tires
> on his Flathead 4 *****'s were super thin and it was pretty good in the mud.
> But ya, I know what you mean about the mud-spray. I took some buddies out
> once in the '88 YJ and even though my tires fit under my flares, the grooves
> in my tires were in such a way that anytime I hit water or mud, it seemed to
> spray out sideways like normal but then curl around right into the
> windshield. It was awesome for drenching the passengers and turning the
> inside of my Jeep into a mudbath, but the 15 seconds of being completely
> blind on the windshield wasn't cool.
>
> I'd almost rather a stock fit under my flares anyways as some RCMP here are
> not so forgiving for the tires sticking out past the flares. So maybe 9.5's
> it is ...?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:413DFBAE.9D12585D@sympatico.ca...
> > I went from 10.5 to 9.5 muds and the traction improvement was extreme!
> >
> > The 9.5's also fit the flares perfect so with them 'not' spinning and/or
> > tossing stuff, 'playing' in the mud almost isn't any fun anymore. ;-(
> >
> > I mean if I have to clean everything anyway, I want to 'look' muddy at
> > least!
> >
> > I got seriously bogged into some mud on the weekend and had to winch out
> > and the CJ hardly has a drop showing up top.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > griffin wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm going to be getting some new rubber for my '85 CJ7 but I'm a little
> > > unsure what to get. I use the Jeep for cruising around the city - altho
> it
> > > isn't my daily driver it will see a good bit of pavement. It will likely
> be
> > > used in the winter as well ...so rain/snow/ice would be nice but not a
> big
> > > necessary. As for the offroading stuff ...I'm not into rockcrawling at
> all
> > > ...just muddy trails. I know crawlers require fat tires for more surface
> > > grip but I've heard mixed opinion about mudding. Some say fat is good
> > > ...other say skinny is good. I don't want anything too skinny (I don't
> want
> > > it to look like a Unimog ;p) but I also don't want to modify the Jeep
> > > chassis/suspension/axles at all. It's all stock under there and I plan
> to
> > > keep it that way. Therefore ...I know the max is 31x10.5x15 ...so what
> would
> > > you guys recommend for size and tire? I've been leaning toward either
> > > 31x10.5 or 31x9.5 BFG Mud Terrains but any other suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks!