Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Thanks for the link, Bill. You always come through with the links we
need, and usually they provide some really useful information. I'd
seen some other review sites, but this looks like it may provide more
useful information and easy comparisons to alternative tires I hadn't
before considered.

On another angle to this tire query: I don't want to compromise my
off-road abilities any more than I have to, but I do want improved
treadlife. Does anyone have any recommendations besides the BFG AT KO
(possibly an MT tire that wears well...noticeably better than the
ProComp MT) for better traction than an AT tire while still providing
longer life with concern to it being a daily driver/commute vehicle?

/Bob

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4005CF36.5E98889@cox.net>...
> BFG AT/KO What others think:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> > get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> > war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> > know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> > discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
> >
> > I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> > decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> > sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> > didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
> >
> > Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> > brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> > (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> > the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> > the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> > without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> > Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
> >
> > Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> > a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> > b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
> >
> > Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> > backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> > don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> > M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> > flare a bit).
> >
> > Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> > can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> > Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> > performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> > air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> > any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> > brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> > not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Thanks for the link, Bill. You always come through with the links we
need, and usually they provide some really useful information. I'd
seen some other review sites, but this looks like it may provide more
useful information and easy comparisons to alternative tires I hadn't
before considered.

On another angle to this tire query: I don't want to compromise my
off-road abilities any more than I have to, but I do want improved
treadlife. Does anyone have any recommendations besides the BFG AT KO
(possibly an MT tire that wears well...noticeably better than the
ProComp MT) for better traction than an AT tire while still providing
longer life with concern to it being a daily driver/commute vehicle?

/Bob

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4005CF36.5E98889@cox.net>...
> BFG AT/KO What others think:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> > get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> > war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> > know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> > discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
> >
> > I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> > decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> > sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> > didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
> >
> > Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> > brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> > (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> > the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> > the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> > without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> > Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
> >
> > Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> > a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> > b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
> >
> > Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> > backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> > don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> > M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> > flare a bit).
> >
> > Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> > can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> > Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> > performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> > air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> > any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> > brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> > not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Thanks for the link, Bill. You always come through with the links we
need, and usually they provide some really useful information. I'd
seen some other review sites, but this looks like it may provide more
useful information and easy comparisons to alternative tires I hadn't
before considered.

On another angle to this tire query: I don't want to compromise my
off-road abilities any more than I have to, but I do want improved
treadlife. Does anyone have any recommendations besides the BFG AT KO
(possibly an MT tire that wears well...noticeably better than the
ProComp MT) for better traction than an AT tire while still providing
longer life with concern to it being a daily driver/commute vehicle?

/Bob

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4005CF36.5E98889@cox.net>...
> BFG AT/KO What others think:
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> > get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> > war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> > know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> > discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
> >
> > I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> > decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> > sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> > didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
> >
> > Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> > brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> > (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> > the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> > the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> > without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> > Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
> >
> > Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> > a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> > b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
> >
> > Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> > backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> > don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> > M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> > flare a bit).
> >
> > Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> > can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> > Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> > performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> > air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> > any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> > brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> > not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Snipped from my original reply to your message (if it got lost in the
shuffle):

"I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn exceptionally
well... not even close to being ready for replacement yet."

Dave

On 15 Jan 2004 07:51:50 -0800, magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote:

>Thanks for the link, Bill. You always come through with the links we
>need, and usually they provide some really useful information. I'd
>seen some other review sites, but this looks like it may provide more
>useful information and easy comparisons to alternative tires I hadn't
>before considered.
>
>On another angle to this tire query: I don't want to compromise my
>off-road abilities any more than I have to, but I do want improved
>treadlife. Does anyone have any recommendations besides the BFG AT KO
>(possibly an MT tire that wears well...noticeably better than the
>ProComp MT) for better traction than an AT tire while still providing
>longer life with concern to it being a daily driver/commute vehicle?
>
>/Bob
>
>L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4005CF36.5E98889@cox.net>...
>> BFG AT/KO What others think:
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
>> > get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
>> > war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
>> > know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
>> > discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>> >
>> > I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
>> > decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
>> > sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
>> > didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>> >
>> > Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
>> > brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
>> > (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
>> > the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
>> > the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
>> > without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
>> > Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>> >
>> > Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
>> > a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
>> > b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>> >
>> > Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
>> > backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
>> > don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
>> > M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
>> > flare a bit).
>> >
>> > Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
>> > can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
>> > Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
>> > performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
>> > air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
>> > any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
>> > brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
>> > not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Snipped from my original reply to your message (if it got lost in the
shuffle):

"I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn exceptionally
well... not even close to being ready for replacement yet."

Dave

On 15 Jan 2004 07:51:50 -0800, magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote:

>Thanks for the link, Bill. You always come through with the links we
>need, and usually they provide some really useful information. I'd
>seen some other review sites, but this looks like it may provide more
>useful information and easy comparisons to alternative tires I hadn't
>before considered.
>
>On another angle to this tire query: I don't want to compromise my
>off-road abilities any more than I have to, but I do want improved
>treadlife. Does anyone have any recommendations besides the BFG AT KO
>(possibly an MT tire that wears well...noticeably better than the
>ProComp MT) for better traction than an AT tire while still providing
>longer life with concern to it being a daily driver/commute vehicle?
>
>/Bob
>
>L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4005CF36.5E98889@cox.net>...
>> BFG AT/KO What others think:
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
>> > get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
>> > war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
>> > know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
>> > discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>> >
>> > I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
>> > decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
>> > sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
>> > didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>> >
>> > Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
>> > brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
>> > (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
>> > the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
>> > the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
>> > without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
>> > Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>> >
>> > Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
>> > a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
>> > b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>> >
>> > Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
>> > backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
>> > don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
>> > M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
>> > flare a bit).
>> >
>> > Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
>> > can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
>> > Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
>> > performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
>> > air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
>> > any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
>> > brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
>> > not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Snipped from my original reply to your message (if it got lost in the
shuffle):

"I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn exceptionally
well... not even close to being ready for replacement yet."

Dave

On 15 Jan 2004 07:51:50 -0800, magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote:

>Thanks for the link, Bill. You always come through with the links we
>need, and usually they provide some really useful information. I'd
>seen some other review sites, but this looks like it may provide more
>useful information and easy comparisons to alternative tires I hadn't
>before considered.
>
>On another angle to this tire query: I don't want to compromise my
>off-road abilities any more than I have to, but I do want improved
>treadlife. Does anyone have any recommendations besides the BFG AT KO
>(possibly an MT tire that wears well...noticeably better than the
>ProComp MT) for better traction than an AT tire while still providing
>longer life with concern to it being a daily driver/commute vehicle?
>
>/Bob
>
>L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4005CF36.5E98889@cox.net>...
>> BFG AT/KO What others think:
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
>> > get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
>> > war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
>> > know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
>> > discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>> >
>> > I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
>> > decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
>> > sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
>> > didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>> >
>> > Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
>> > brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
>> > (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
>> > the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
>> > the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
>> > without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
>> > Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>> >
>> > Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
>> > a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
>> > b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>> >
>> > Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
>> > backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
>> > don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
>> > M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
>> > flare a bit).
>> >
>> > Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
>> > can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
>> > Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
>> > performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
>> > air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
>> > any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
>> > brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
>> > not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Ditto. That's compared to about twenty five thousand miles my
Bronco would go though Firestone, Goodyear, and Armstrong.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> "I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn exceptionally
> well... not even close to being ready for replacement yet."
>
> Dave

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Ditto. That's compared to about twenty five thousand miles my
Bronco would go though Firestone, Goodyear, and Armstrong.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> "I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn exceptionally
> well... not even close to being ready for replacement yet."
>
> Dave

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Ditto. That's compared to about twenty five thousand miles my
Bronco would go though Firestone, Goodyear, and Armstrong.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> "I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn exceptionally
> well... not even close to being ready for replacement yet."
>
> Dave

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

I have about 20 K miles on my BFG muds with no real wear showing.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> Snipped from my original reply to your message (if it got lost in the
> shuffle):
>
> "I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn exceptionally
> well... not even close to being ready for replacement yet."
>
> Dave
>
> On 15 Jan 2004 07:51:50 -0800, magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the link, Bill. You always come through with the links we
> >need, and usually they provide some really useful information. I'd
> >seen some other review sites, but this looks like it may provide more
> >useful information and easy comparisons to alternative tires I hadn't
> >before considered.
> >
> >On another angle to this tire query: I don't want to compromise my
> >off-road abilities any more than I have to, but I do want improved
> >treadlife. Does anyone have any recommendations besides the BFG AT KO
> >(possibly an MT tire that wears well...noticeably better than the
> >ProComp MT) for better traction than an AT tire while still providing
> >longer life with concern to it being a daily driver/commute vehicle?
> >
> >/Bob
> >
> >L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<4005CF36.5E98889@cox.net>...
> >> BFG AT/KO What others think:
> >> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Bob wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> >> > get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> >> > war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> >> > know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> >> > discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
> >> >
> >> > I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> >> > decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> >> > sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> >> > didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
> >> >
> >> > Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> >> > brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> >> > (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> >> > the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> >> > the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> >> > without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> >> > Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
> >> >
> >> > Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> >> > a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> >> > b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
> >> >
> >> > Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> >> > backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> >> > don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> >> > M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> >> > flare a bit).
> >> >
> >> > Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> >> > can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> >> > Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> >> > performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> >> > air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> >> > any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> >> > brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> >> > not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance for any and all advice.