tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.

I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)

Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
(sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.

Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?

Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
flare a bit).

Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Not sure if you are going to find much in the way of a treadlife
warranty for any tire that's not a P metric size. At least that's been
my experience with tire stores and manufacturers.

Don't know much about the Big Foot, but I think you'd be hard pressed
to find many people that would say anything bad about BFG tires in
general. I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn
exceptionally well... not even close to being ready for replacement
yet. Got mine at Sears, and paid an extra $14 or so per tire that
provides on/off road hazard coverage like you describe below for the
Big-O tires.

As for tire size, I'd stick with the 33x12.5 if you're happy with it.
Sounds perfect for your application.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 14 Jan 2004 09:45:01 -0800, magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote:

>Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
>get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
>war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
>know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
>discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
>I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
>decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
>sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
>didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
>Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
>brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
>(sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
>the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
>the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
>without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
>Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
>Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
>a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
>b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
>Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
>backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
>don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
>M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
>flare a bit).
>
>Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
>can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
>Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
>performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
>air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
>any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
>brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
>not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
>Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Not sure if you are going to find much in the way of a treadlife
warranty for any tire that's not a P metric size. At least that's been
my experience with tire stores and manufacturers.

Don't know much about the Big Foot, but I think you'd be hard pressed
to find many people that would say anything bad about BFG tires in
general. I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn
exceptionally well... not even close to being ready for replacement
yet. Got mine at Sears, and paid an extra $14 or so per tire that
provides on/off road hazard coverage like you describe below for the
Big-O tires.

As for tire size, I'd stick with the 33x12.5 if you're happy with it.
Sounds perfect for your application.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 14 Jan 2004 09:45:01 -0800, magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote:

>Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
>get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
>war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
>know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
>discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
>I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
>decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
>sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
>didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
>Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
>brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
>(sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
>the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
>the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
>without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
>Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
>Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
>a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
>b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
>Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
>backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
>don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
>M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
>flare a bit).
>
>Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
>can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
>Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
>performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
>air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
>any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
>brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
>not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
>Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Not sure if you are going to find much in the way of a treadlife
warranty for any tire that's not a P metric size. At least that's been
my experience with tire stores and manufacturers.

Don't know much about the Big Foot, but I think you'd be hard pressed
to find many people that would say anything bad about BFG tires in
general. I have 44K miles on my BFG MT's and they have worn
exceptionally well... not even close to being ready for replacement
yet. Got mine at Sears, and paid an extra $14 or so per tire that
provides on/off road hazard coverage like you describe below for the
Big-O tires.

As for tire size, I'd stick with the 33x12.5 if you're happy with it.
Sounds perfect for your application.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 14 Jan 2004 09:45:01 -0800, magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote:

>Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
>get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
>war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
>know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
>discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
>I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
>decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
>sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
>didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
>Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
>brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
>(sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
>the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
>the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
>without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
>Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
>Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
>a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
>b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
>Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
>backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
>don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
>M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
>flare a bit).
>
>Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
>can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
>Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
>performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
>air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
>any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
>brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
>not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
>Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Given your statement that you do dry rocks and dirt, my preference is
towards the BFG AT/KO. I have the BFG MT, and the ATs wear better and are a
little quieter. I can't recall doing things with my MTs that my brothers can
not do with their ATs. They get better wear than I get, and the traction
seems to be on par. All things being equal, the ATs seem to be better for
dry conditions.




"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0401140945.304823ea@posting.google.c om...
> Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
> I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
> Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
> Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
> Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> flare a bit).
>
> Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Given your statement that you do dry rocks and dirt, my preference is
towards the BFG AT/KO. I have the BFG MT, and the ATs wear better and are a
little quieter. I can't recall doing things with my MTs that my brothers can
not do with their ATs. They get better wear than I get, and the traction
seems to be on par. All things being equal, the ATs seem to be better for
dry conditions.




"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0401140945.304823ea@posting.google.c om...
> Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
> I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
> Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
> Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
> Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> flare a bit).
>
> Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

Given your statement that you do dry rocks and dirt, my preference is
towards the BFG AT/KO. I have the BFG MT, and the ATs wear better and are a
little quieter. I can't recall doing things with my MTs that my brothers can
not do with their ATs. They get better wear than I get, and the traction
seems to be on par. All things being equal, the ATs seem to be better for
dry conditions.




"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0401140945.304823ea@posting.google.c om...
> Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
> I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
> Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
> Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
> Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> flare a bit).
>
> Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

BFG AT/KO What others think:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bob wrote:
>
> Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
> I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
> Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
> Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
> Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> flare a bit).
>
> Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

BFG AT/KO What others think:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bob wrote:
>
> Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
> I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
> Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
> Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
> Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> flare a bit).
>
> Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

Re: tire width and tire brand/model recommendations
 

BFG AT/KO What others think:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/orat.jsp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bob wrote:
>
> Ok, I'm going to try to spark a bit of a debate here, and see what I
> get out of you guys in the way of recommendations, or just an all out
> war ;-) j/k...Let's hope it's more constructive than that. And yes, I
> know we've had these sort of discussions before, but none of those
> discussions seemed to bring out exactly what I'd like to know.
>
> I need new tires. My ProComp M/T tires are worn down pretty bad. I've
> decided I want something with a good treadlife, preferably with some
> sort of treadwear warranty. (I am none to happy that my ProComps
> didn't last me much more than a year and a half.)
>
> Right now, I'm leaning toward the BFG A/T KO tires, or some Big-O
> brand Big Foot X/T. The Big Foot tires include all hazard replacement
> (sidewall, road hazard, on/off road, you name it, they'll either fix
> the tire or replace it for free, no deductible). They cost $700 for
> the set. The BFG AT KO tires run substantially less than that (but
> without the free replacement damage coverage) at approximately $560.
> Both of these amounts are for 33x12.5x15 size tires.
>
> Now, what I'm trying to decide is two-fold:
> a) Which brand should I get, and what's the best deal I can get?
> b) Should I consider a narrower tire width on my new set of tires?
>
> Bear in mind I do not want to change out my wheels, so I can't change
> backspacing (and sorry, I'm not sure what my current backspacing is. I
> don't know how I'd measure that. All I can say is my current ProComp
> M/T 33x12.5x15 tires fit exactly as I like, and extend beyond the
> flare a bit).
>
> Also, with regard to the narrower tire question: I don't do mud if I
> can help it. My main dig is rocks and some dirt out in the Colorado
> Rockies. So, my ideal tire should perform best in rocks, and mud
> performance should not be an important consideration. Also, I usually
> air down to approximately 12 to 15 PSI off-road. Just in case that has
> any bearing on the recommendations of tire sizes/widths or
> brands/models. I want good tires, but I want a good price, too. I'm
> not some sort of crazy rich CEO-type or anything ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all advice.