tire chains
#21
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Re: tire chains
Then you have never gone up the front side of Palomar to Dome lake
after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
#22
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire chains
Then you have never gone up the front side of Palomar to Dome lake
after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
#23
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire chains
Man I was with one guy as a passenger in one fall run and he insisted on
chains on the back for the mud....
Damn good job he has a receiver winch with front and back ports....
If you need chains to get through, you shouldn't be there. We got about
1/4 mile in 3 hours after he put the chains on.
I finally convinced him to turn around....
On road is a different story, totally. Some folks have to be mobile,
period.
I contracted to a major newspaper for 9 years as a service tech and had
to be on site from 12:00 midnight to 4:00 AM. Not showing up for a
shift was grounds for dismissal. Ice or snow storms no matter, the
paper was going out.
Even so, I have been in conditions where I couldn't walk safely to my
CJ7, yet it still motored on fine in 4x4 running BFG 33x9.5 muds. That
happened this spring for almost 2 weeks. The plumbing contractor I now
contract for had me in my CJ7 follow him in his work van with all the
parts to all the jobs, just to make sure he could get there or better
get out. Usually I run shotgun with him.
I run tall skinny tires on my CJ7, so I don't need to spin to get going,
fat tires spin easy so chains just make them drop straight down.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
chains on the back for the mud....
Damn good job he has a receiver winch with front and back ports....
If you need chains to get through, you shouldn't be there. We got about
1/4 mile in 3 hours after he put the chains on.
I finally convinced him to turn around....
On road is a different story, totally. Some folks have to be mobile,
period.
I contracted to a major newspaper for 9 years as a service tech and had
to be on site from 12:00 midnight to 4:00 AM. Not showing up for a
shift was grounds for dismissal. Ice or snow storms no matter, the
paper was going out.
Even so, I have been in conditions where I couldn't walk safely to my
CJ7, yet it still motored on fine in 4x4 running BFG 33x9.5 muds. That
happened this spring for almost 2 weeks. The plumbing contractor I now
contract for had me in my CJ7 follow him in his work van with all the
parts to all the jobs, just to make sure he could get there or better
get out. Usually I run shotgun with him.
I run tall skinny tires on my CJ7, so I don't need to spin to get going,
fat tires spin easy so chains just make them drop straight down.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire chains
Man I was with one guy as a passenger in one fall run and he insisted on
chains on the back for the mud....
Damn good job he has a receiver winch with front and back ports....
If you need chains to get through, you shouldn't be there. We got about
1/4 mile in 3 hours after he put the chains on.
I finally convinced him to turn around....
On road is a different story, totally. Some folks have to be mobile,
period.
I contracted to a major newspaper for 9 years as a service tech and had
to be on site from 12:00 midnight to 4:00 AM. Not showing up for a
shift was grounds for dismissal. Ice or snow storms no matter, the
paper was going out.
Even so, I have been in conditions where I couldn't walk safely to my
CJ7, yet it still motored on fine in 4x4 running BFG 33x9.5 muds. That
happened this spring for almost 2 weeks. The plumbing contractor I now
contract for had me in my CJ7 follow him in his work van with all the
parts to all the jobs, just to make sure he could get there or better
get out. Usually I run shotgun with him.
I run tall skinny tires on my CJ7, so I don't need to spin to get going,
fat tires spin easy so chains just make them drop straight down.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
chains on the back for the mud....
Damn good job he has a receiver winch with front and back ports....
If you need chains to get through, you shouldn't be there. We got about
1/4 mile in 3 hours after he put the chains on.
I finally convinced him to turn around....
On road is a different story, totally. Some folks have to be mobile,
period.
I contracted to a major newspaper for 9 years as a service tech and had
to be on site from 12:00 midnight to 4:00 AM. Not showing up for a
shift was grounds for dismissal. Ice or snow storms no matter, the
paper was going out.
Even so, I have been in conditions where I couldn't walk safely to my
CJ7, yet it still motored on fine in 4x4 running BFG 33x9.5 muds. That
happened this spring for almost 2 weeks. The plumbing contractor I now
contract for had me in my CJ7 follow him in his work van with all the
parts to all the jobs, just to make sure he could get there or better
get out. Usually I run shotgun with him.
I run tall skinny tires on my CJ7, so I don't need to spin to get going,
fat tires spin easy so chains just make them drop straight down.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire chains
Man I was with one guy as a passenger in one fall run and he insisted on
chains on the back for the mud....
Damn good job he has a receiver winch with front and back ports....
If you need chains to get through, you shouldn't be there. We got about
1/4 mile in 3 hours after he put the chains on.
I finally convinced him to turn around....
On road is a different story, totally. Some folks have to be mobile,
period.
I contracted to a major newspaper for 9 years as a service tech and had
to be on site from 12:00 midnight to 4:00 AM. Not showing up for a
shift was grounds for dismissal. Ice or snow storms no matter, the
paper was going out.
Even so, I have been in conditions where I couldn't walk safely to my
CJ7, yet it still motored on fine in 4x4 running BFG 33x9.5 muds. That
happened this spring for almost 2 weeks. The plumbing contractor I now
contract for had me in my CJ7 follow him in his work van with all the
parts to all the jobs, just to make sure he could get there or better
get out. Usually I run shotgun with him.
I run tall skinny tires on my CJ7, so I don't need to spin to get going,
fat tires spin easy so chains just make them drop straight down.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
chains on the back for the mud....
Damn good job he has a receiver winch with front and back ports....
If you need chains to get through, you shouldn't be there. We got about
1/4 mile in 3 hours after he put the chains on.
I finally convinced him to turn around....
On road is a different story, totally. Some folks have to be mobile,
period.
I contracted to a major newspaper for 9 years as a service tech and had
to be on site from 12:00 midnight to 4:00 AM. Not showing up for a
shift was grounds for dismissal. Ice or snow storms no matter, the
paper was going out.
Even so, I have been in conditions where I couldn't walk safely to my
CJ7, yet it still motored on fine in 4x4 running BFG 33x9.5 muds. That
happened this spring for almost 2 weeks. The plumbing contractor I now
contract for had me in my CJ7 follow him in his work van with all the
parts to all the jobs, just to make sure he could get there or better
get out. Usually I run shotgun with him.
I run tall skinny tires on my CJ7, so I don't need to spin to get going,
fat tires spin easy so chains just make them drop straight down.
Mike
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> let alone on a 4x4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> The
> > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> keep
> > > going.
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > >
> > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > >
> > > > /Bob
> > > > 1997 TJ
> > > >
> > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > consider
> > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> 110,000
> > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > floats
> > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> chains
> > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> in
> > > > > : the future.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > :
> > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> roads,
> > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > :
> > > > > : /Bob
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire chains
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Man you 'southern' folks!
3" of powder.... LOL!
Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Then you have never gone up the front side of Palomar to Dome lake
> after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> > let alone on a 4x4.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> > The
> > > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> > keep
> > > > going.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
> > > >
> > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > > >
> > > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Bob
> > > > > 1997 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > > consider
> > > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> > 110,000
> > > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > > floats
> > > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> > chains
> > > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> > in
> > > > > > : the future.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> > roads,
> > > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : /Bob
Man you 'southern' folks!
3" of powder.... LOL!
Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Then you have never gone up the front side of Palomar to Dome lake
> after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> > let alone on a 4x4.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> > The
> > > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> > keep
> > > > going.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
> > > >
> > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > > >
> > > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Bob
> > > > > 1997 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > > consider
> > > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> > 110,000
> > > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > > floats
> > > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> > chains
> > > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> > in
> > > > > > : the future.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> > roads,
> > > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : /Bob
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire chains
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Man you 'southern' folks!
3" of powder.... LOL!
Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Then you have never gone up the front side of Palomar to Dome lake
> after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> > let alone on a 4x4.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> > The
> > > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> > keep
> > > > going.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
> > > >
> > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > > >
> > > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Bob
> > > > > 1997 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > > consider
> > > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> > 110,000
> > > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > > floats
> > > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> > chains
> > > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> > in
> > > > > > : the future.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> > roads,
> > > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : /Bob
Man you 'southern' folks!
3" of powder.... LOL!
Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Then you have never gone up the front side of Palomar to Dome lake
> after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> > let alone on a 4x4.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> > The
> > > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> > keep
> > > > going.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
> > > >
> > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > > >
> > > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Bob
> > > > > 1997 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > > consider
> > > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> > 110,000
> > > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > > floats
> > > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> > chains
> > > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> > in
> > > > > > : the future.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> > roads,
> > > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : /Bob
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire chains
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Man you 'southern' folks!
3" of powder.... LOL!
Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Then you have never gone up the front side of Palomar to Dome lake
> after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> > let alone on a 4x4.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> > The
> > > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> > keep
> > > > going.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
> > > >
> > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > > >
> > > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Bob
> > > > > 1997 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > > consider
> > > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> > 110,000
> > > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > > floats
> > > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> > chains
> > > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> > in
> > > > > > : the future.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> > roads,
> > > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : /Bob
Man you 'southern' folks!
3" of powder.... LOL!
Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Then you have never gone up the front side of Palomar to Dome lake
> after a snow: http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Boy! Talk about "protected living." I have never seen chains on the trail,
> > let alone on a 4x4.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3FC28550.90F43F38@sympatico.ca...
> > > I'll second that. Chains are bad news on trails, summer or winter. I
> > > have also had the misery of being behind someone with chains.... After
> > > 3 pulls, I told him to either let me pass or take the damn chains off...
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > JimG wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Our group went on a snow ride last winter in about 2-3' of packed snow.
> > The
> > > > guys with chains would dig down till they bottomed-out and would then be
> > > > stuck. Us guys with lockers (no chains) would float across the top and
> > keep
> > > > going.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > > LockRight F&R
> > > >
> > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:47b769ae.0311241210.6809fac3@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > I have to agree. These 12.5 MT tires suck on ice. They're ok in snow
> > > > > (when the tread is still reasonably deep on them).
> > > > >
> > > > > I currently don't have the funds (or the desire to store all those
> > > > > extra tires) to go out and buy a whole extra set of tires for the
> > > > > winter, and I like my 12.5 tires for both how they perform off-road,
> > > > > and just as much for how they look (so, for those of you who would
> > > > > tell me that the narrower 9.5 or 10.5 tires would work as well
> > > > > off-road, I say I don't care...they don't look as good on my Jeep!).
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, I thought maybe having at least one pair of chains on-hand
> > > > > for that off-chance emergency situation might be a good way to
> > > > > compensate for my wide-patch high-flotation tires, as well as for if I
> > > > > wanted to do any snowbusting in the winter sometime.
> > > > >
> > > > > /Bob
> > > > > 1997 TJ
> > > > >
> > > > > "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:<kAmwb.20191$Fv8.9561@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com>...
> > > > > > I can't help you with info on chains but I would suggest that you
> > > > consider
> > > > > > narrower rubber for winter... 35 years in the great white north,
> > 110,000
> > > > > > mi/yr for the last 10 years and I've never used chains. Wide rubber
> > > > floats
> > > > > > and is your last choice for inclement weather.
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:47b769ae.0311232347.1f22c706@posting.google.c om...
> > > > > > : I was just wondering what brand or styles or whatever of tire
> > chains
> > > > > > : that people on this forum might suggest. I have 33x12.5 tires, and
> > > > > > : intend to continue running this size of tire for quite some time
> > in
> > > > > > : the future.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : In particular, there's a place nearby that's doing a special on
> > > > > > : "Weissenfel" brand of tire chains right now. Are these good?
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : I want a set of chains that will work on very inclement weather
> > roads,
> > > > > > : but would also work off-road on the off-chance I decide to try
> > > > > > : winter-offroading this year or next year.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : Thanks for suggestions.
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > : /Bob
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire chains
It's a little more difficult than that, we climb Palomar Mountain,
from the Indian reservation at about five hundred feet to over five
thousand in less than three
miles.http://www.valleycenter.com/frontpage/nategrade1.htm
Thanks for letting me see your pictures again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> ROTFLMAO!!!!
>
> Man you 'southern' folks!
>
> 3" of powder.... LOL!
>
> Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
>
> I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
>
> The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
> the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
>
> Mike
from the Indian reservation at about five hundred feet to over five
thousand in less than three
miles.http://www.valleycenter.com/frontpage/nategrade1.htm
Thanks for letting me see your pictures again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> ROTFLMAO!!!!
>
> Man you 'southern' folks!
>
> 3" of powder.... LOL!
>
> Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
>
> I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
>
> The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
> the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
>
> Mike
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Re: tire chains
It's a little more difficult than that, we climb Palomar Mountain,
from the Indian reservation at about five hundred feet to over five
thousand in less than three
miles.http://www.valleycenter.com/frontpage/nategrade1.htm
Thanks for letting me see your pictures again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> ROTFLMAO!!!!
>
> Man you 'southern' folks!
>
> 3" of powder.... LOL!
>
> Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
>
> I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
>
> The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
> the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
>
> Mike
from the Indian reservation at about five hundred feet to over five
thousand in less than three
miles.http://www.valleycenter.com/frontpage/nategrade1.htm
Thanks for letting me see your pictures again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> ROTFLMAO!!!!
>
> Man you 'southern' folks!
>
> 3" of powder.... LOL!
>
> Crap when I am plowing the front bumper, I still won't go for chains.
>
> I run on that but in slush, deep in places with glass ice under.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351
>
> The best part of that run was a stock TJ with stock Goodyear's that was
> the only one 'not' on the receiving end of a strap or winch...
>
> Mike