Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
timing chain cover. This could get expensive...
I've got an '87 350 that should come out of the machinist' soon. I was
planning on eventually putting it and a 218 LT4 hot cam under the TPI (and
maybe a ported set of 186 fuelie heads) into the Jeep. Now, if I can get
the other motor back.
The sooner I can get the other block back, the sooner I can build up a
Trans Am and take it to the track instead of... Ahhh, who am I kiddin'?!
I'll still have fun with the Jeep and throw big, flumpy clods off-road!
But, I'll just drive one while working on the other. This is gonna be cool.
Oh, and Bill, I promise I won't make the Jeep any faster; no stroker cranks,
no nitrous, no 14:1 forged pistons. I couldn't put any more horses to the
dirt. Haha!

P.S. Hey Bill, I promised you a photo back before I put it together. I'm
almost done with the bugs so I'm sending you a couple photos via e-mail. It
turned out more than sweet and you gotta see this; I think you'll be able to
appreciate it! If anybody else's curious, let me know and I'll forward.
Drink

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
timing chain cover. This could get expensive...
I've got an '87 350 that should come out of the machinist' soon. I was
planning on eventually putting it and a 218 LT4 hot cam under the TPI (and
maybe a ported set of 186 fuelie heads) into the Jeep. Now, if I can get
the other motor back.
The sooner I can get the other block back, the sooner I can build up a
Trans Am and take it to the track instead of... Ahhh, who am I kiddin'?!
I'll still have fun with the Jeep and throw big, flumpy clods off-road!
But, I'll just drive one while working on the other. This is gonna be cool.
Oh, and Bill, I promise I won't make the Jeep any faster; no stroker cranks,
no nitrous, no 14:1 forged pistons. I couldn't put any more horses to the
dirt. Haha!

P.S. Hey Bill, I promised you a photo back before I put it together. I'm
almost done with the bugs so I'm sending you a couple photos via e-mail. It
turned out more than sweet and you gotta see this; I think you'll be able to
appreciate it! If anybody else's curious, let me know and I'll forward.
Drink

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
timing chain cover. This could get expensive...
I've got an '87 350 that should come out of the machinist' soon. I was
planning on eventually putting it and a 218 LT4 hot cam under the TPI (and
maybe a ported set of 186 fuelie heads) into the Jeep. Now, if I can get
the other motor back.
The sooner I can get the other block back, the sooner I can build up a
Trans Am and take it to the track instead of... Ahhh, who am I kiddin'?!
I'll still have fun with the Jeep and throw big, flumpy clods off-road!
But, I'll just drive one while working on the other. This is gonna be cool.
Oh, and Bill, I promise I won't make the Jeep any faster; no stroker cranks,
no nitrous, no 14:1 forged pistons. I couldn't put any more horses to the
dirt. Haha!

P.S. Hey Bill, I promised you a photo back before I put it together. I'm
almost done with the bugs so I'm sending you a couple photos via e-mail. It
turned out more than sweet and you gotta see this; I think you'll be able to
appreciate it! If anybody else's curious, let me know and I'll forward.
Drink

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Drink did pass the time by typing:
> Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
> head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
> can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
> outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
> timing chain cover. This could get expensive...

Only if it slips far enough to cut the cover and drop oil. :)

Dunno about your application but replacing the HB on my 4.0 only took
part of a day. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

Fairly easy but having the right tools is a necessity. I could have
done it without removing the radiator if they had an installation tool
that was about 2" shorter. :/


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Drink did pass the time by typing:
> Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
> head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
> can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
> outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
> timing chain cover. This could get expensive...

Only if it slips far enough to cut the cover and drop oil. :)

Dunno about your application but replacing the HB on my 4.0 only took
part of a day. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

Fairly easy but having the right tools is a necessity. I could have
done it without removing the radiator if they had an installation tool
that was about 2" shorter. :/


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Drink did pass the time by typing:
> Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
> head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
> can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
> outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
> timing chain cover. This could get expensive...

Only if it slips far enough to cut the cover and drop oil. :)

Dunno about your application but replacing the HB on my 4.0 only took
part of a day. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/

Fairly easy but having the right tools is a necessity. I could have
done it without removing the radiator if they had an installation tool
that was about 2" shorter. :/


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Replace the balancer, it really is critical in keeping the crank
from breaking, that's why the get three hundred bucks for them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
> head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
> can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
> outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
> timing chain cover. This could get expensive...
> I've got an '87 350 that should come out of the machinist' soon. I was
> planning on eventually putting it and a 218 LT4 hot cam under the TPI (and
> maybe a ported set of 186 fuelie heads) into the Jeep. Now, if I can get
> the other motor back.
> The sooner I can get the other block back, the sooner I can build up a
> Trans Am and take it to the track instead of... Ahhh, who am I kiddin'?!
> I'll still have fun with the Jeep and throw big, flumpy clods off-road!
> But, I'll just drive one while working on the other. This is gonna be cool.
> Oh, and Bill, I promise I won't make the Jeep any faster; no stroker cranks,
> no nitrous, no 14:1 forged pistons. I couldn't put any more horses to the
> dirt. Haha!
>
> P.S. Hey Bill, I promised you a photo back before I put it together. I'm
> almost done with the bugs so I'm sending you a couple photos via e-mail. It
> turned out more than sweet and you gotta see this; I think you'll be able to
> appreciate it! If anybody else's curious, let me know and I'll forward.
> Drink

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Replace the balancer, it really is critical in keeping the crank
from breaking, that's why the get three hundred bucks for them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
> head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
> can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
> outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
> timing chain cover. This could get expensive...
> I've got an '87 350 that should come out of the machinist' soon. I was
> planning on eventually putting it and a 218 LT4 hot cam under the TPI (and
> maybe a ported set of 186 fuelie heads) into the Jeep. Now, if I can get
> the other motor back.
> The sooner I can get the other block back, the sooner I can build up a
> Trans Am and take it to the track instead of... Ahhh, who am I kiddin'?!
> I'll still have fun with the Jeep and throw big, flumpy clods off-road!
> But, I'll just drive one while working on the other. This is gonna be cool.
> Oh, and Bill, I promise I won't make the Jeep any faster; no stroker cranks,
> no nitrous, no 14:1 forged pistons. I couldn't put any more horses to the
> dirt. Haha!
>
> P.S. Hey Bill, I promised you a photo back before I put it together. I'm
> almost done with the bugs so I'm sending you a couple photos via e-mail. It
> turned out more than sweet and you gotta see this; I think you'll be able to
> appreciate it! If anybody else's curious, let me know and I'll forward.
> Drink

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Replace the balancer, it really is critical in keeping the crank
from breaking, that's why the get three hundred bucks for them.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Drink wrote:
>
> Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
> head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine, I
> can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
> outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed the
> timing chain cover. This could get expensive...
> I've got an '87 350 that should come out of the machinist' soon. I was
> planning on eventually putting it and a 218 LT4 hot cam under the TPI (and
> maybe a ported set of 186 fuelie heads) into the Jeep. Now, if I can get
> the other motor back.
> The sooner I can get the other block back, the sooner I can build up a
> Trans Am and take it to the track instead of... Ahhh, who am I kiddin'?!
> I'll still have fun with the Jeep and throw big, flumpy clods off-road!
> But, I'll just drive one while working on the other. This is gonna be cool.
> Oh, and Bill, I promise I won't make the Jeep any faster; no stroker cranks,
> no nitrous, no 14:1 forged pistons. I couldn't put any more horses to the
> dirt. Haha!
>
> P.S. Hey Bill, I promised you a photo back before I put it together. I'm
> almost done with the bugs so I'm sending you a couple photos via e-mail. It
> turned out more than sweet and you gotta see this; I think you'll be able to
> appreciate it! If anybody else's curious, let me know and I'll forward.
> Drink

Re: Timing 80 degrees off?!?
 

Nah, I meant "expensive" because I'm gonna wind up having to build a
bracket racer engine for the T/A out of this one and put the other in the
Jeep:) Gawd knows how much I'll dip into to do that and It'll take a lot
longer than a day. Haha!
Drink

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:2H0uf.36618$---.6492@dukeread07...
> Drink did pass the time by typing:
>> Nailed it. Went back out to take a second gander with a clear, logical
>> head. Looking at the harmonic balancer from the underside of the engine,
>> I
>> can see that the outer ring's slipped, most definitely. Looks like the
>> outer has slipped backwards off the inner about 3/4" and barely scrubbed
>> the
>> timing chain cover. This could get expensive...
>
> Only if it slips far enough to cut the cover and drop oil. :)
>
> Dunno about your application but replacing the HB on my 4.0 only took
> part of a day. http://revbeergoggles.com/hb/
>
> Fairly easy but having the right tools is a necessity. I could have
> done it without removing the radiator if they had an installation tool
> that was about 2" shorter. :/