Throttle return spring mystery solved.
#31
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
More likely DeLay or Santorum.
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Someone in the big 3 probably paid off Teddy or Hilary to get the rule
> changed if there was one.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:442bfeb9$0$20263$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>>I thought that double throttle return springs were a federally mandated
>> safety measure. I must admit that I haven't thought much about it
>> though.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> news:c192d$442b5d36$4831b233$18797@FUSE.NET...
>>> Are they required on vehicles with throttle bodies?
>>>
>>> It isn't like the old days when a broken spring would result in an over
>>> revved motor.....throttle bodies have no control over the fuel supply.
>>>
>>>
>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:442B55BD.D4142D5@***.net...
>>> > Now you may take your car on to a drag strip, like the Real Jeeps:
>>> > http://----------.com/dragjeeps/
>>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > JD Adams wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Okay, here's the deal:
>>> >>
>>> >> Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
>>> >> assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
>>> >> primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body,
>>> >> one
>>> >> on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
>>> >> transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
>>> >> stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
>>> >> horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
>>> >> made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up
>>> >> filling
>>> >> the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> More information is available at:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
>>> >>
>>> >> Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
>>> >> was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
>>> >>
>>> >> -JD
>>>
>>>
>>
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"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Someone in the big 3 probably paid off Teddy or Hilary to get the rule
> changed if there was one.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:442bfeb9$0$20263$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
>>I thought that double throttle return springs were a federally mandated
>> safety measure. I must admit that I haven't thought much about it
>> though.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> news:c192d$442b5d36$4831b233$18797@FUSE.NET...
>>> Are they required on vehicles with throttle bodies?
>>>
>>> It isn't like the old days when a broken spring would result in an over
>>> revved motor.....throttle bodies have no control over the fuel supply.
>>>
>>>
>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>> news:442B55BD.D4142D5@***.net...
>>> > Now you may take your car on to a drag strip, like the Real Jeeps:
>>> > http://----------.com/dragjeeps/
>>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> >
>>> > JD Adams wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Okay, here's the deal:
>>> >>
>>> >> Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
>>> >> assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
>>> >> primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body,
>>> >> one
>>> >> on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
>>> >> transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
>>> >> stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
>>> >> horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
>>> >> made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up
>>> >> filling
>>> >> the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> More information is available at:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
>>> >>
>>> >> Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
>>> >> was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
>>> >>
>>> >> -JD
>>>
>>>
>>
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#32
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.
Tom
"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>
http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.
Tom
"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:442bdbdd_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>
#33
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.
Tom
"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:442bdbdd_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>
http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.
Tom
"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:442bdbdd_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>
#34
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.
Tom
"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:442bdbdd_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>
http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
a much better throttle feel now.
Tom
"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:442bdbdd_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Thanks for the detailed info.
>
> Tom
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
> news:1143688206.952823.22060@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > Okay, here's the deal:
> >
> > Talked to a parts guy this afternoon. He is smart. He told me that
> > assembly line streamlining from 2005 on mandated that the offensive
> > primary throttle return spring be eliminated. Sort of.
> >
> > In the 05/06 TJ's, there are two springs: one in the throttle body, one
> > on the automatic transmission linkage. For those of us with 6-sp.
> > transmissions, well, we get to suck it up and do without. As he
> > stated, "You're tough: you can take it."
> >
> > Well, I'm tough, but I can't take it. I paid serious bucks for this
> > horse, and I want all of the springs I'm entitled to! So, today, I
> > made a pilgramage to the local OSH for a look-see, and ended up filling
> > the gap quite nicely. My throttle response now works as expected.
> >
> > More information is available at:
> >
> > http://207.13.104.8/users/jdadams
> >
> > Check Hidalgo's Private Garage for the information you seek. If this
> > was DC's idea of cost-cutting measures, I am not amused.
> >
> > -JD
> >
>
>
#35
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
$3.64 eh? The local Stealership wanted almost $7 for one. Big
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.
I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.
I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.
#36
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
$3.64 eh? The local Stealership wanted almost $7 for one. Big
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.
I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.
I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.
#37
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
$3.64 eh? The local Stealership wanted almost $7 for one. Big
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.
I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.
difference after one of these are installed. Easing it over bumps at
low speed used to be really tough to do gracefully, but no more.
I've got a neighbor with a PT Cruiser that's thinking about doing the
same thing; the primary spring does not exist on that either.
#38
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.
Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.
A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.
--
DougW
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.
Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.
A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.
--
DougW
#39
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.
Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.
A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.
--
DougW
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.
Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.
A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.
--
DougW
#40
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Re: Throttle return spring mystery solved.
mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.
Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.
A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.
--
DougW
> Here is what I did today to install my missing throttle spring.
>
> http://www.tmar.net/throttle_spring.htm
>
> I drove it for about 15 minutes after the install, and it does seem to have
> a much better throttle feel now.
Might want to back those nuts off and put on
some red threadlocker. That will help keep them from
rattling off.
A old-timer trick is to slightly press the nuts in a vice to
take them out of round and give them more grip.
--
DougW