L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

They can't even pass half of what gasoline is expected to:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html If they could, the
dirty bags would be in California right now! Look up Mercedes exhaust
filter and see what the owner have to do right now. Here hopping a bunch
forget and they start blowing up. :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
>
> J.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

They can't even pass half of what gasoline is expected to:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html If they could, the
dirty bags would be in California right now! Look up Mercedes exhaust
filter and see what the owner have to do right now. Here hopping a bunch
forget and they start blowing up. :-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
>
> J.

Dave Milne

Exactly. Amazing how many people don't know that.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> Doesn't work either. Respect is earned through hard honest work and is
> easily damaged.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:twT6f.135637$G8.130464@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > Most of the things you want in life are cheap, but paying for other
people
> > to respect you is really expensive :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:435C032E.81C4A823@***.net...
> >> You're lucky, I though everyone had gotten bitten by the new car
> >> bug, when all rational goes out the window and we'll pay an extra ten
> >> grand for the prestige factor.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dave Milne wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I got an old banger to learn to drive in. In fact I've never had a
new
> > car ;
> >> > always bought 2nd hand. (the TJ had 11K miles on it when I bought
it).
> >> > I
> >> > could stump up the readies for a new one tomorrow, but what's the
point
> > ?
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

Exactly. Amazing how many people don't know that.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:de05a$435c2503$4831b233$2657@FUSE.NET...
> Doesn't work either. Respect is earned through hard honest work and is
> easily damaged.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:twT6f.135637$G8.130464@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > Most of the things you want in life are cheap, but paying for other
people
> > to respect you is really expensive :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:435C032E.81C4A823@***.net...
> >> You're lucky, I though everyone had gotten bitten by the new car
> >> bug, when all rational goes out the window and we'll pay an extra ten
> >> grand for the prestige factor.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dave Milne wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I got an old banger to learn to drive in. In fact I've never had a
new
> > car ;
> >> > always bought 2nd hand. (the TJ had 11K miles on it when I bought
it).
> >> > I
> >> > could stump up the readies for a new one tomorrow, but what's the
point
> > ?
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

Exactly. Amazing how many people don't know that.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:de05a$435c2503$4831b233$2657@FUSE.NET...
> Doesn't work either. Respect is earned through hard honest work and is
> easily damaged.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:twT6f.135637$G8.130464@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
> > Most of the things you want in life are cheap, but paying for other
people
> > to respect you is really expensive :-)
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:435C032E.81C4A823@***.net...
> >> You're lucky, I though everyone had gotten bitten by the new car
> >> bug, when all rational goes out the window and we'll pay an extra ten
> >> grand for the prestige factor.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dave Milne wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I got an old banger to learn to drive in. In fact I've never had a
new
> > car ;
> >> > always bought 2nd hand. (the TJ had 11K miles on it when I bought
it).
> >> > I
> >> > could stump up the readies for a new one tomorrow, but what's the
point
> > ?
> >> >
> >> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >
>
>

Mike Romain

Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@***.net...
> > Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
>
> A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
>
> J.

Well, is ULP 'bunker C'?

That must be an impossible job to 'well tune' them then because they are
the stinkiest and sootiest things on the road.

It is impossible to follow a Canadian transit bus with a top down Jeep.
You will fast get gassed out or smoked out or sooted out or smogged out
or whatever you want to call it, it is just downright nasty.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@***.net...
> > Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
>
> A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
>
> J.

Well, is ULP 'bunker C'?

That must be an impossible job to 'well tune' them then because they are
the stinkiest and sootiest things on the road.

It is impossible to follow a Canadian transit bus with a top down Jeep.
You will fast get gassed out or smoked out or sooted out or smogged out
or whatever you want to call it, it is just downright nasty.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@***.net...
> > Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
>
> A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
>
> J.

Well, is ULP 'bunker C'?

That must be an impossible job to 'well tune' them then because they are
the stinkiest and sootiest things on the road.

It is impossible to follow a Canadian transit bus with a top down Jeep.
You will fast get gassed out or smoked out or sooted out or smogged out
or whatever you want to call it, it is just downright nasty.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Earle Horton

Yeah, they have those in small passenger cars in Europe. I don't know about
mileage, maintenance or dependability, but they smell bad and they are loud
too. The only thing worse, are the scooters that sound like a chain saw or
a string trimmer. Gasoline is damn expensive here, and lots of people still
use it, even in trucks. There must be a reason.

Earle

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> Volkswagen chairman Bernd Pischetsrieder gave a talk at the LA auto show
and
> spoke about the new diesels (with low sulfur fuel) running cleaner,
getting
> better mileage that gas-electric hybrids, being more dependable with
lower
> maintenance and available at a reasonable cost.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
> news:435c5fac$0$8651$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@***.net...
> >> Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
> >
> >
> > A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
> >
> > J.
> >
>
>
>

Earle Horton

Yeah, they have those in small passenger cars in Europe. I don't know about
mileage, maintenance or dependability, but they smell bad and they are loud
too. The only thing worse, are the scooters that sound like a chain saw or
a string trimmer. Gasoline is damn expensive here, and lots of people still
use it, even in trucks. There must be a reason.

Earle

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9f7c$435c6649$4831b233$26705@FUSE.NET...
> Volkswagen chairman Bernd Pischetsrieder gave a talk at the LA auto show
and
> spoke about the new diesels (with low sulfur fuel) running cleaner,
getting
> better mileage that gas-electric hybrids, being more dependable with
lower
> maintenance and available at a reasonable cost.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
> news:435c5fac$0$8651$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >
> > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:435BEBF4.6C3B0B9E@***.net...
> >> Diesels are too dirty and against the law here in God's country:
> >
> >
> > A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.
> >
> > J.
> >
>
>
>