Thinking about a Rubicon
11-08-2003, 10:29 PM
#11
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
I went out on autotrader.com for slightly used ones.. visited dealers in
town for new ones... I got one price at one place, then went to the next and
said, well you are the dealer I would really like to go through,, what is
your best price. I never would commit right there. I said I am gathering
prices and will buy the lowest at the end of the week. at the end of the
week dealer A would call and I woul say, well B beat your price by 1000.00
, can you do better ? then C would call and I would say A beat B's price by
500 more.. can you do better ? You have plenty of time to shop.. play
them to death.
I finally got my slightly used Rubi for 22,900.. 3300 miles.. manual,
soft top, 7speaker stereo/cd , khaki colored. It is exactly the way I would
have ordered it if I bought new.
They are out there, you just have to look real hard. Don't expect to see
too many used ones. There were two in a radius of 150 miles from here, when
I used autotrader..
dave
"Arvin" <arvin"no-spam"@mo-net.com> wrote in message
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> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
> --
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town for new ones... I got one price at one place, then went to the next and
said, well you are the dealer I would really like to go through,, what is
your best price. I never would commit right there. I said I am gathering
prices and will buy the lowest at the end of the week. at the end of the
week dealer A would call and I woul say, well B beat your price by 1000.00
, can you do better ? then C would call and I would say A beat B's price by
500 more.. can you do better ? You have plenty of time to shop.. play
them to death.
I finally got my slightly used Rubi for 22,900.. 3300 miles.. manual,
soft top, 7speaker stereo/cd , khaki colored. It is exactly the way I would
have ordered it if I bought new.
They are out there, you just have to look real hard. Don't expect to see
too many used ones. There were two in a radius of 150 miles from here, when
I used autotrader..
dave
"Arvin" <arvin"no-spam"@mo-net.com> wrote in message
news:vqqm0a8ftlpk81@corp.supernews.com...
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
> --
> 2CJs '82 258 CJ-7 O|||||||O
> http://arvin.homestead.com/files/websignature.jpg
> http://users.mo-net.com/arvin
>
>
11-08-2003, 10:29 PM
#12
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
I went out on autotrader.com for slightly used ones.. visited dealers in
town for new ones... I got one price at one place, then went to the next and
said, well you are the dealer I would really like to go through,, what is
your best price. I never would commit right there. I said I am gathering
prices and will buy the lowest at the end of the week. at the end of the
week dealer A would call and I woul say, well B beat your price by 1000.00
, can you do better ? then C would call and I would say A beat B's price by
500 more.. can you do better ? You have plenty of time to shop.. play
them to death.
I finally got my slightly used Rubi for 22,900.. 3300 miles.. manual,
soft top, 7speaker stereo/cd , khaki colored. It is exactly the way I would
have ordered it if I bought new.
They are out there, you just have to look real hard. Don't expect to see
too many used ones. There were two in a radius of 150 miles from here, when
I used autotrader..
dave
"Arvin" <arvin"no-spam"@mo-net.com> wrote in message
news:vqqm0a8ftlpk81@corp.supernews.com...
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
> --
> 2CJs '82 258 CJ-7 O|||||||O
> http://arvin.homestead.com/files/websignature.jpg
> http://users.mo-net.com/arvin
>
>
town for new ones... I got one price at one place, then went to the next and
said, well you are the dealer I would really like to go through,, what is
your best price. I never would commit right there. I said I am gathering
prices and will buy the lowest at the end of the week. at the end of the
week dealer A would call and I woul say, well B beat your price by 1000.00
, can you do better ? then C would call and I would say A beat B's price by
500 more.. can you do better ? You have plenty of time to shop.. play
them to death.
I finally got my slightly used Rubi for 22,900.. 3300 miles.. manual,
soft top, 7speaker stereo/cd , khaki colored. It is exactly the way I would
have ordered it if I bought new.
They are out there, you just have to look real hard. Don't expect to see
too many used ones. There were two in a radius of 150 miles from here, when
I used autotrader..
dave
"Arvin" <arvin"no-spam"@mo-net.com> wrote in message
news:vqqm0a8ftlpk81@corp.supernews.com...
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
> --
> 2CJs '82 258 CJ-7 O|||||||O
> http://arvin.homestead.com/files/websignature.jpg
> http://users.mo-net.com/arvin
>
>
11-08-2003, 10:29 PM
#13
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
I went out on autotrader.com for slightly used ones.. visited dealers in
town for new ones... I got one price at one place, then went to the next and
said, well you are the dealer I would really like to go through,, what is
your best price. I never would commit right there. I said I am gathering
prices and will buy the lowest at the end of the week. at the end of the
week dealer A would call and I woul say, well B beat your price by 1000.00
, can you do better ? then C would call and I would say A beat B's price by
500 more.. can you do better ? You have plenty of time to shop.. play
them to death.
I finally got my slightly used Rubi for 22,900.. 3300 miles.. manual,
soft top, 7speaker stereo/cd , khaki colored. It is exactly the way I would
have ordered it if I bought new.
They are out there, you just have to look real hard. Don't expect to see
too many used ones. There were two in a radius of 150 miles from here, when
I used autotrader..
dave
"Arvin" <arvin"no-spam"@mo-net.com> wrote in message
news:vqqm0a8ftlpk81@corp.supernews.com...
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
> --
> 2CJs '82 258 CJ-7 O|||||||O
> http://arvin.homestead.com/files/websignature.jpg
> http://users.mo-net.com/arvin
>
>
town for new ones... I got one price at one place, then went to the next and
said, well you are the dealer I would really like to go through,, what is
your best price. I never would commit right there. I said I am gathering
prices and will buy the lowest at the end of the week. at the end of the
week dealer A would call and I woul say, well B beat your price by 1000.00
, can you do better ? then C would call and I would say A beat B's price by
500 more.. can you do better ? You have plenty of time to shop.. play
them to death.
I finally got my slightly used Rubi for 22,900.. 3300 miles.. manual,
soft top, 7speaker stereo/cd , khaki colored. It is exactly the way I would
have ordered it if I bought new.
They are out there, you just have to look real hard. Don't expect to see
too many used ones. There were two in a radius of 150 miles from here, when
I used autotrader..
dave
"Arvin" <arvin"no-spam"@mo-net.com> wrote in message
news:vqqm0a8ftlpk81@corp.supernews.com...
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
> --
> 2CJs '82 258 CJ-7 O|||||||O
> http://arvin.homestead.com/files/websignature.jpg
> http://users.mo-net.com/arvin
>
>
11-08-2003, 10:55 PM
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
I ordered my Rubi at $100 over invoice back in Sept. '02. It's all in
your relationship with your dealer or how hard you are willing to nego.
There are people who will tell you that "salesmen are people with
families and if you buy at $100 over they will lose their house and live
in a shoebox in the ghetto from now on". Don't believe them and
negotiate what you want to pay. Rubi's are not nearly as HOT as when I
bought mine (then they were considered limited production) so work your
best price and start at COST, not STICKER.
Arvin wrote:
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
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03 TJ Rubicon
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There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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your relationship with your dealer or how hard you are willing to nego.
There are people who will tell you that "salesmen are people with
families and if you buy at $100 over they will lose their house and live
in a shoebox in the ghetto from now on". Don't believe them and
negotiate what you want to pay. Rubi's are not nearly as HOT as when I
bought mine (then they were considered limited production) so work your
best price and start at COST, not STICKER.
Arvin wrote:
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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11-08-2003, 10:55 PM
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
I ordered my Rubi at $100 over invoice back in Sept. '02. It's all in
your relationship with your dealer or how hard you are willing to nego.
There are people who will tell you that "salesmen are people with
families and if you buy at $100 over they will lose their house and live
in a shoebox in the ghetto from now on". Don't believe them and
negotiate what you want to pay. Rubi's are not nearly as HOT as when I
bought mine (then they were considered limited production) so work your
best price and start at COST, not STICKER.
Arvin wrote:
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
your relationship with your dealer or how hard you are willing to nego.
There are people who will tell you that "salesmen are people with
families and if you buy at $100 over they will lose their house and live
in a shoebox in the ghetto from now on". Don't believe them and
negotiate what you want to pay. Rubi's are not nearly as HOT as when I
bought mine (then they were considered limited production) so work your
best price and start at COST, not STICKER.
Arvin wrote:
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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11-08-2003, 10:55 PM
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
I ordered my Rubi at $100 over invoice back in Sept. '02. It's all in
your relationship with your dealer or how hard you are willing to nego.
There are people who will tell you that "salesmen are people with
families and if you buy at $100 over they will lose their house and live
in a shoebox in the ghetto from now on". Don't believe them and
negotiate what you want to pay. Rubi's are not nearly as HOT as when I
bought mine (then they were considered limited production) so work your
best price and start at COST, not STICKER.
Arvin wrote:
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
your relationship with your dealer or how hard you are willing to nego.
There are people who will tell you that "salesmen are people with
families and if you buy at $100 over they will lose their house and live
in a shoebox in the ghetto from now on". Don't believe them and
negotiate what you want to pay. Rubi's are not nearly as HOT as when I
bought mine (then they were considered limited production) so work your
best price and start at COST, not STICKER.
Arvin wrote:
> Anybody have a good price they paid or a buying technique to exploit?
> What do you think of it after you bought it?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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11-09-2003, 08:18 AM
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:58:04 GMT, "Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net>
> shared the following:
>
> >My buying technique was, "go to carmax.com"
> >n.
>
> Just don't try to get any kind of a trade-in return on a vehicle from
> Carmax. I've bought a few vehicles from them, but every time I've
> tried to use a vehicle to trade-in on one from them, they give me a
> ridiculous quote. Just my own personal experience. YMMV. They
> quoted me something stupid like $3000 on a '95 Thunderbird with 4.6
> V8, auto, power everything, very very very good condition... Told me
> the 10-disc CD-changer and awesome Sony stereo didn't matter... so
> when I took their ridiculous offer to get the deal done, I swapped out
> the Sony stereo for a $25 Radio Shack special and removed the CD
> changer. That's a story all in itself. heh heh Sheeeeeot. And
> that was back in about '98 when the car was only 3 years old. $3000
> for a 3-year-old T-bird in awesome shape? I brought a '96 Ford
> Windstar to them for a trade-in also and they tried to bend me over on
> that one, too. Oh, wait... They *did* bend me over on that one.
> d'oh... And the T-bird one... Oh... CarMax... I'd buy another car
> from them but won't even consider taking a vehicle to them to trade in
> on anything. Unless it's a hunk-o-junk that I can't sell...
>
>
Why didn't you make the deal on the new car and then sell the T-bird
yourself?
-Fred W
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11-09-2003, 08:18 AM
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:58:04 GMT, "Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net>
> shared the following:
>
> >My buying technique was, "go to carmax.com"
> >n.
>
> Just don't try to get any kind of a trade-in return on a vehicle from
> Carmax. I've bought a few vehicles from them, but every time I've
> tried to use a vehicle to trade-in on one from them, they give me a
> ridiculous quote. Just my own personal experience. YMMV. They
> quoted me something stupid like $3000 on a '95 Thunderbird with 4.6
> V8, auto, power everything, very very very good condition... Told me
> the 10-disc CD-changer and awesome Sony stereo didn't matter... so
> when I took their ridiculous offer to get the deal done, I swapped out
> the Sony stereo for a $25 Radio Shack special and removed the CD
> changer. That's a story all in itself. heh heh Sheeeeeot. And
> that was back in about '98 when the car was only 3 years old. $3000
> for a 3-year-old T-bird in awesome shape? I brought a '96 Ford
> Windstar to them for a trade-in also and they tried to bend me over on
> that one, too. Oh, wait... They *did* bend me over on that one.
> d'oh... And the T-bird one... Oh... CarMax... I'd buy another car
> from them but won't even consider taking a vehicle to them to trade in
> on anything. Unless it's a hunk-o-junk that I can't sell...
>
>
Why didn't you make the deal on the new car and then sell the T-bird
yourself?
-Fred W
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11-09-2003, 08:18 AM
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 22:58:04 GMT, "Nathan Otis" <na@spam.smeat.net>
> shared the following:
>
> >My buying technique was, "go to carmax.com"
> >n.
>
> Just don't try to get any kind of a trade-in return on a vehicle from
> Carmax. I've bought a few vehicles from them, but every time I've
> tried to use a vehicle to trade-in on one from them, they give me a
> ridiculous quote. Just my own personal experience. YMMV. They
> quoted me something stupid like $3000 on a '95 Thunderbird with 4.6
> V8, auto, power everything, very very very good condition... Told me
> the 10-disc CD-changer and awesome Sony stereo didn't matter... so
> when I took their ridiculous offer to get the deal done, I swapped out
> the Sony stereo for a $25 Radio Shack special and removed the CD
> changer. That's a story all in itself. heh heh Sheeeeeot. And
> that was back in about '98 when the car was only 3 years old. $3000
> for a 3-year-old T-bird in awesome shape? I brought a '96 Ford
> Windstar to them for a trade-in also and they tried to bend me over on
> that one, too. Oh, wait... They *did* bend me over on that one.
> d'oh... And the T-bird one... Oh... CarMax... I'd buy another car
> from them but won't even consider taking a vehicle to them to trade in
> on anything. Unless it's a hunk-o-junk that I can't sell...
>
>
Why didn't you make the deal on the new car and then sell the T-bird
yourself?
-Fred W
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11-09-2003, 08:34 AM
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Re: Thinking about a Rubicon
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I ordered my Rubi at $100 over invoice back in Sept. '02. It's all in
> your relationship with your dealer or how hard you are willing to nego.
> There are people who will tell you that "salesmen are people with
> families and if you buy at $100 over they will lose their house and live
> in a shoebox in the ghetto from now on". Don't believe them and
> negotiate what you want to pay. Rubi's are not nearly as HOT as when I
> bought mine (then they were considered limited production) so work your
> best price and start at COST, not STICKER.
They will not go broke even selling at or below invoice. They get something
called dealer holdback from the manufacturer. See here:
http://www.edmunds.com/advice/incentives/holdback/
Invoice is what the dealer pays up front for the car to be on the lot. It
isn't their "final cost".
-Fred W.
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