Shouldn't that read "the polls show ..."

:-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:r9udncaWztg4SejenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Here in MD the legislature is pushing through a bill to make English the
> official language, I thought it was. Sort of an oxymoron don't you think.
> It has a real good chance of passing the poles show 78% of marylanders
> concur.
>
> --
> Coasty
>
> Remove the SPOOGE to reply
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43754D5F.2605820D@***.net...
> > Hi Rich,
> > It is incredibly disappointing for me thinking election of Arnie
> > would signal sanity to return to Kalifornia, but this last Tuesday the
> > bleeding hart liberals of the state of San Francisco, voted to ban guns:
> >
http://www.thetriangle.org/media/pap...hetriangle.org
> > That was hitler's fascist party first step.
> > I got this in the mail today, of which you were a part of: If you
> > consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq
> > theater operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2112
> > deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000.
> > The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000. That
> > means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our
> > Nation's Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in
> > the nation, than you are in Iraq. Conclusion: We should immediately pull
> > out of Washington D.C.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Rich wrote:
> >>
> >> If this country keeps going in the direction the liberal left wants to
go
> >> we'll be reading it in Arabic one day.
>
>

 

There are any number of countries you could go to and be hard pressed to
find no spoken English (India comes to mind), but that's not really the
point. The point is that if you are going to emigrate to a country you
should have the good graces to adopt the predominant language of the country
you intend to call home. Btw, I have been to Japan on a number of occasions
(going again in Dec. for about a month), and while you do find a lot of
people that can speak at least SOME English, it's not like everyone is
fluent, or even remotely competent. English is taught grades 7-12
(generally) but most people don't continue or keep current after.


"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:ab7a$4376025a$4831b233$7597@FUSE.NET...
> If you went to Japan today you would be hard pressed to find someone who
> didn't speak English.
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:yHmdf.201683$lI5.48407@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com ...
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:r9udncaWztg4SejenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Here in MD the legislature is pushing through a bill to make English
the
> >> official language, I thought it was. Sort of an oxymoron don't you
> >> think.
> >> It has a real good chance of passing the poles show 78% of marylanders
> >> concur.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >
> > Thank god sanity seems to reign at least somewhere. Why is it that when
I
> > go to an ATM in Podunk, Ohio I have to CHOOSE a language? Specifically
> > Spanish. Why the hell is that? Why do I have to watch (well, actually
> > "I"
> > don't) TV shows that seem hell bent on teaching kids Spanish? Excuse me
> > but
> > shouldn't that be the other way around? Shouldn't the shows be striving
> > to
> > teach ENGLISH to those who can't (or won't?) speak it? It wouldn't
bother
> > me if I had to choose from a list of languages i.e. English, Spanish,
> > German, French, Japanese, etc. That at least I could understand as
trying
> > to be a convenience to international travelers. When the only choices
are
> > English or Spanish, now we are trying to cater to a specific ethnic
group
> > that for all intents and purposes is not just a bunch of "visitors", and
I
> > think that is plain old wrong.
> >
> > I wouldn't expect to move to Japan and have them provide everything to
me
> > in
> > English. It would sure be nice, but I wouldn't EXPECT it as some sort
of
> > god-given right. I wouldn't expect to put my kid in a Japanese public
> > school and demand that they make accommodations to teach my kid in
> > English.
> > The best I would hope for would be English assistance while they went
> > about
> > teaching my kid JAPANESE.
> >
> > This country was founded by English speaking Europeans which is good
> > enough
> > for me. Later there was a HUGE influx of immigrants from nations all
over
> > the world, whose sole interest was to come here to be an AMERICAN, not a
> > "fill in the blank"-American. Not Italian Americans, Irish Americans,
> > Polish Americans etc, but just plain old Americans. These people
promptly
> > got about the business of pursuing their dreams AND learning the
language
> > of
> > the host country which just happened to be ENGLISH.
> >
> > This country truly was a melting pot as back then the immigrants wanted
to
> > FIT IN and be Americans, nothing more. Therein is the issue at the root
> > of
> > a huge portion of today's racial problems in this country. People
coming
> > here don't want to fit in any more. They want to come from whatever
> > little
> > hell hole they were born it to someplace nice, and then try to convert
it
> > to
> > a carbon copy of the hell hole they just left. Why are people today so
> > hell
> > bent on applying labels to themselves? African-American,
> > Mexican-American,
> > XYZ-American and whatnot.
> >
> > Isn't it enough to be an American anymore?
> >
> >
>
>

 

There are any number of countries you could go to and be hard pressed to
find no spoken English (India comes to mind), but that's not really the
point. The point is that if you are going to emigrate to a country you
should have the good graces to adopt the predominant language of the country
you intend to call home. Btw, I have been to Japan on a number of occasions
(going again in Dec. for about a month), and while you do find a lot of
people that can speak at least SOME English, it's not like everyone is
fluent, or even remotely competent. English is taught grades 7-12
(generally) but most people don't continue or keep current after.


"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:ab7a$4376025a$4831b233$7597@FUSE.NET...
> If you went to Japan today you would be hard pressed to find someone who
> didn't speak English.
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:yHmdf.201683$lI5.48407@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com ...
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:r9udncaWztg4SejenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Here in MD the legislature is pushing through a bill to make English
the
> >> official language, I thought it was. Sort of an oxymoron don't you
> >> think.
> >> It has a real good chance of passing the poles show 78% of marylanders
> >> concur.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >
> > Thank god sanity seems to reign at least somewhere. Why is it that when
I
> > go to an ATM in Podunk, Ohio I have to CHOOSE a language? Specifically
> > Spanish. Why the hell is that? Why do I have to watch (well, actually
> > "I"
> > don't) TV shows that seem hell bent on teaching kids Spanish? Excuse me
> > but
> > shouldn't that be the other way around? Shouldn't the shows be striving
> > to
> > teach ENGLISH to those who can't (or won't?) speak it? It wouldn't
bother
> > me if I had to choose from a list of languages i.e. English, Spanish,
> > German, French, Japanese, etc. That at least I could understand as
trying
> > to be a convenience to international travelers. When the only choices
are
> > English or Spanish, now we are trying to cater to a specific ethnic
group
> > that for all intents and purposes is not just a bunch of "visitors", and
I
> > think that is plain old wrong.
> >
> > I wouldn't expect to move to Japan and have them provide everything to
me
> > in
> > English. It would sure be nice, but I wouldn't EXPECT it as some sort
of
> > god-given right. I wouldn't expect to put my kid in a Japanese public
> > school and demand that they make accommodations to teach my kid in
> > English.
> > The best I would hope for would be English assistance while they went
> > about
> > teaching my kid JAPANESE.
> >
> > This country was founded by English speaking Europeans which is good
> > enough
> > for me. Later there was a HUGE influx of immigrants from nations all
over
> > the world, whose sole interest was to come here to be an AMERICAN, not a
> > "fill in the blank"-American. Not Italian Americans, Irish Americans,
> > Polish Americans etc, but just plain old Americans. These people
promptly
> > got about the business of pursuing their dreams AND learning the
language
> > of
> > the host country which just happened to be ENGLISH.
> >
> > This country truly was a melting pot as back then the immigrants wanted
to
> > FIT IN and be Americans, nothing more. Therein is the issue at the root
> > of
> > a huge portion of today's racial problems in this country. People
coming
> > here don't want to fit in any more. They want to come from whatever
> > little
> > hell hole they were born it to someplace nice, and then try to convert
it
> > to
> > a carbon copy of the hell hole they just left. Why are people today so
> > hell
> > bent on applying labels to themselves? African-American,
> > Mexican-American,
> > XYZ-American and whatnot.
> >
> > Isn't it enough to be an American anymore?
> >
> >
>
>

 

There are any number of countries you could go to and be hard pressed to
find no spoken English (India comes to mind), but that's not really the
point. The point is that if you are going to emigrate to a country you
should have the good graces to adopt the predominant language of the country
you intend to call home. Btw, I have been to Japan on a number of occasions
(going again in Dec. for about a month), and while you do find a lot of
people that can speak at least SOME English, it's not like everyone is
fluent, or even remotely competent. English is taught grades 7-12
(generally) but most people don't continue or keep current after.


"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:ab7a$4376025a$4831b233$7597@FUSE.NET...
> If you went to Japan today you would be hard pressed to find someone who
> didn't speak English.
>
>
> "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
> news:yHmdf.201683$lI5.48407@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com ...
> >
> > "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:r9udncaWztg4SejenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >> Here in MD the legislature is pushing through a bill to make English
the
> >> official language, I thought it was. Sort of an oxymoron don't you
> >> think.
> >> It has a real good chance of passing the poles show 78% of marylanders
> >> concur.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >
> > Thank god sanity seems to reign at least somewhere. Why is it that when
I
> > go to an ATM in Podunk, Ohio I have to CHOOSE a language? Specifically
> > Spanish. Why the hell is that? Why do I have to watch (well, actually
> > "I"
> > don't) TV shows that seem hell bent on teaching kids Spanish? Excuse me
> > but
> > shouldn't that be the other way around? Shouldn't the shows be striving
> > to
> > teach ENGLISH to those who can't (or won't?) speak it? It wouldn't
bother
> > me if I had to choose from a list of languages i.e. English, Spanish,
> > German, French, Japanese, etc. That at least I could understand as
trying
> > to be a convenience to international travelers. When the only choices
are
> > English or Spanish, now we are trying to cater to a specific ethnic
group
> > that for all intents and purposes is not just a bunch of "visitors", and
I
> > think that is plain old wrong.
> >
> > I wouldn't expect to move to Japan and have them provide everything to
me
> > in
> > English. It would sure be nice, but I wouldn't EXPECT it as some sort
of
> > god-given right. I wouldn't expect to put my kid in a Japanese public
> > school and demand that they make accommodations to teach my kid in
> > English.
> > The best I would hope for would be English assistance while they went
> > about
> > teaching my kid JAPANESE.
> >
> > This country was founded by English speaking Europeans which is good
> > enough
> > for me. Later there was a HUGE influx of immigrants from nations all
over
> > the world, whose sole interest was to come here to be an AMERICAN, not a
> > "fill in the blank"-American. Not Italian Americans, Irish Americans,
> > Polish Americans etc, but just plain old Americans. These people
promptly
> > got about the business of pursuing their dreams AND learning the
language
> > of
> > the host country which just happened to be ENGLISH.
> >
> > This country truly was a melting pot as back then the immigrants wanted
to
> > FIT IN and be Americans, nothing more. Therein is the issue at the root
> > of
> > a huge portion of today's racial problems in this country. People
coming
> > here don't want to fit in any more. They want to come from whatever
> > little
> > hell hole they were born it to someplace nice, and then try to convert
it
> > to
> > a carbon copy of the hell hole they just left. Why are people today so
> > hell
> > bent on applying labels to themselves? African-American,
> > Mexican-American,
> > XYZ-American and whatnot.
> >
> > Isn't it enough to be an American anymore?
> >
> >
>
>

 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:wt6dnbWUy-Ion-venZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> Clarification: The immigrants who came over in the late 1800's/early
1900's
> had for the most part a difficult time assimilating, and they ended up
> settling in large numbers in specific regions (think of the predominantly
> ethnic neighborhoods of NYC). By and large the immigrants tried to keep


I may be all wet in my view, no doubt, but I was thinking more along the
lines of those who showed up from the 20's on (which may or may not make a
difference) but I'm guessing you see my point regardless.

 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:wt6dnbWUy-Ion-venZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> Clarification: The immigrants who came over in the late 1800's/early
1900's
> had for the most part a difficult time assimilating, and they ended up
> settling in large numbers in specific regions (think of the predominantly
> ethnic neighborhoods of NYC). By and large the immigrants tried to keep


I may be all wet in my view, no doubt, but I was thinking more along the
lines of those who showed up from the 20's on (which may or may not make a
difference) but I'm guessing you see my point regardless.

 

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:wt6dnbWUy-Ion-venZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> Clarification: The immigrants who came over in the late 1800's/early
1900's
> had for the most part a difficult time assimilating, and they ended up
> settling in large numbers in specific regions (think of the predominantly
> ethnic neighborhoods of NYC). By and large the immigrants tried to keep


I may be all wet in my view, no doubt, but I was thinking more along the
lines of those who showed up from the 20's on (which may or may not make a
difference) but I'm guessing you see my point regardless.

 

Perhaps they only polled people from Poland.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:HZtdf.6721$Lw5.2610@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Shouldn't that read "the polls show ..."
>
> :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r9udncaWztg4SejenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Here in MD the legislature is pushing through a bill to make English the
>> official language, I thought it was. Sort of an oxymoron don't you
>> think.
>> It has a real good chance of passing the poles show 78% of marylanders
>> concur.
>>
>> --
>> Coasty
>>
>> Remove the SPOOGE to reply
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43754D5F.2605820D@***.net...
>> > Hi Rich,
>> > It is incredibly disappointing for me thinking election of Arnie
>> > would signal sanity to return to Kalifornia, but this last Tuesday the
>> > bleeding hart liberals of the state of San Francisco, voted to ban
>> > guns:
>> >
> http://www.thetriangle.org/media/pap...hetriangle.org
>> > That was hitler's fascist party first step.
>> > I got this in the mail today, of which you were a part of: If you
>> > consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq
>> > theater operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2112
>> > deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000.
>> > The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000. That
>> > means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our
>> > Nation's Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in
>> > the nation, than you are in Iraq. Conclusion: We should immediately
>> > pull
>> > out of Washington D.C.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Rich wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If this country keeps going in the direction the liberal left wants to
> go
>> >> we'll be reading it in Arabic one day.
>>
>>
>
>

 

Perhaps they only polled people from Poland.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:HZtdf.6721$Lw5.2610@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Shouldn't that read "the polls show ..."
>
> :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r9udncaWztg4SejenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Here in MD the legislature is pushing through a bill to make English the
>> official language, I thought it was. Sort of an oxymoron don't you
>> think.
>> It has a real good chance of passing the poles show 78% of marylanders
>> concur.
>>
>> --
>> Coasty
>>
>> Remove the SPOOGE to reply
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43754D5F.2605820D@***.net...
>> > Hi Rich,
>> > It is incredibly disappointing for me thinking election of Arnie
>> > would signal sanity to return to Kalifornia, but this last Tuesday the
>> > bleeding hart liberals of the state of San Francisco, voted to ban
>> > guns:
>> >
> http://www.thetriangle.org/media/pap...hetriangle.org
>> > That was hitler's fascist party first step.
>> > I got this in the mail today, of which you were a part of: If you
>> > consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq
>> > theater operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2112
>> > deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000.
>> > The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000. That
>> > means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our
>> > Nation's Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in
>> > the nation, than you are in Iraq. Conclusion: We should immediately
>> > pull
>> > out of Washington D.C.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Rich wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If this country keeps going in the direction the liberal left wants to
> go
>> >> we'll be reading it in Arabic one day.
>>
>>
>
>

 

Perhaps they only polled people from Poland.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:HZtdf.6721$Lw5.2610@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Shouldn't that read "the polls show ..."
>
> :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Coasty" <uscg_retSPOOGE@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r9udncaWztg4SejenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Here in MD the legislature is pushing through a bill to make English the
>> official language, I thought it was. Sort of an oxymoron don't you
>> think.
>> It has a real good chance of passing the poles show 78% of marylanders
>> concur.
>>
>> --
>> Coasty
>>
>> Remove the SPOOGE to reply
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43754D5F.2605820D@***.net...
>> > Hi Rich,
>> > It is incredibly disappointing for me thinking election of Arnie
>> > would signal sanity to return to Kalifornia, but this last Tuesday the
>> > bleeding hart liberals of the state of San Francisco, voted to ban
>> > guns:
>> >
> http://www.thetriangle.org/media/pap...hetriangle.org
>> > That was hitler's fascist party first step.
>> > I got this in the mail today, of which you were a part of: If you
>> > consider that there have been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq
>> > theater operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2112
>> > deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000.
>> > The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000. That
>> > means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in our
>> > Nation's Capitol, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in
>> > the nation, than you are in Iraq. Conclusion: We should immediately
>> > pull
>> > out of Washington D.C.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Rich wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If this country keeps going in the direction the liberal left wants to
> go
>> >> we'll be reading it in Arabic one day.
>>
>>
>
>