Terrain puzzlement
08-28-2003, 02:14 AM
#1
Guest
Posts: n/a
Terrain puzzlement
I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
something about tackling simiar stuff.
It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
on the priority list.
Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
--
Ed in Vegas, '94 YJ
Son (Robert) in Vegas '92 YJ
Desert J**p'n site coming soon!
To email me lose the 6 and the 3
wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
something about tackling simiar stuff.
It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
on the priority list.
Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
--
Ed in Vegas, '94 YJ
Son (Robert) in Vegas '92 YJ
Desert J**p'n site coming soon!
To email me lose the 6 and the 3
08-28-2003, 02:30 AM
#2
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
Yes, by airing down as you well know. Sound like I would have used
less than ten pounds, providing I had a way to air up or could control
my speeds to less than about forty going back to Los Wages.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
EdC wrote:
>
> I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> something about tackling simiar stuff.
> It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> on the priority list.
> Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
>
> --
> Ed in Vegas, '94 YJ
> Son (Robert) in Vegas '92 YJ
> Desert J**p'n site coming soon!
> To email me lose the 6 and the 3
less than ten pounds, providing I had a way to air up or could control
my speeds to less than about forty going back to Los Wages.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
EdC wrote:
>
> I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> something about tackling simiar stuff.
> It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> on the priority list.
> Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
>
> --
> Ed in Vegas, '94 YJ
> Son (Robert) in Vegas '92 YJ
> Desert J**p'n site coming soon!
> To email me lose the 6 and the 3
08-28-2003, 02:30 AM
#3
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
Yes, by airing down as you well know. Sound like I would have used
less than ten pounds, providing I had a way to air up or could control
my speeds to less than about forty going back to Los Wages.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
EdC wrote:
>
> I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> something about tackling simiar stuff.
> It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> on the priority list.
> Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
>
> --
> Ed in Vegas, '94 YJ
> Son (Robert) in Vegas '92 YJ
> Desert J**p'n site coming soon!
> To email me lose the 6 and the 3
less than ten pounds, providing I had a way to air up or could control
my speeds to less than about forty going back to Los Wages.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
EdC wrote:
>
> I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> something about tackling simiar stuff.
> It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> on the priority list.
> Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
>
> --
> Ed in Vegas, '94 YJ
> Son (Robert) in Vegas '92 YJ
> Desert J**p'n site coming soon!
> To email me lose the 6 and the 3
08-28-2003, 01:52 PM
#4
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
Approximately 8/27/03 23:14, EdC uttered for posterity:
> I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> something about tackling simiar stuff.
> It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> on the priority list.
> Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
>
Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
still.
> I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> something about tackling simiar stuff.
> It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> on the priority list.
> Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
>
Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
still.
08-28-2003, 01:52 PM
#5
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
Approximately 8/27/03 23:14, EdC uttered for posterity:
> I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> something about tackling simiar stuff.
> It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> on the priority list.
> Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
>
Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
still.
> I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> something about tackling simiar stuff.
> It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> on the priority list.
> Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
>
Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
still.
08-28-2003, 04:11 PM
#6
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:52:09 UTC Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Approximately 8/27/03 23:14, EdC uttered for posterity:
>
> > I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> > wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> > something about tackling simiar stuff.
> > It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> > a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> > DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> > built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> > down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> > work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> > although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> > on the priority list.
> > Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
> >
> Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
> close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
> momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
> is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
> wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
> down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
> logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
> navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
> still.
That brings back memories! When the Amistad Dam was finished (Del
Rio, TX on the Rio Grande) they took out a bridge across a river
feeding into it. It was a wide, shallow river with good flow about 12
inches deep. When they blew the bridge they made a quick trip to a
place I used into a 50 mile detour so we all decided to just ford the
river just above the old bridge. The river was a good 150 yards wide
there with what looked like a rock bottom - no problem. Turned out
that "rock bottom" consisted of bowling *****. Add the constant water
flow to lubricate them and that turned the 150 yards into the
damnedest level obstical I ever saw. I think the only thing that ever
made it across unassisted was a cat - nothing with wheels.
Fortunately, it was easy enough to pull the venturesome souls out as
long as at least one vehicle kept it's feet dry so we all had to try
it a few times.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
wrote:
> Approximately 8/27/03 23:14, EdC uttered for posterity:
>
> > I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> > wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> > something about tackling simiar stuff.
> > It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> > a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> > DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> > built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> > down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> > work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> > although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> > on the priority list.
> > Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
> >
> Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
> close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
> momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
> is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
> wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
> down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
> logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
> navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
> still.
That brings back memories! When the Amistad Dam was finished (Del
Rio, TX on the Rio Grande) they took out a bridge across a river
feeding into it. It was a wide, shallow river with good flow about 12
inches deep. When they blew the bridge they made a quick trip to a
place I used into a 50 mile detour so we all decided to just ford the
river just above the old bridge. The river was a good 150 yards wide
there with what looked like a rock bottom - no problem. Turned out
that "rock bottom" consisted of bowling *****. Add the constant water
flow to lubricate them and that turned the 150 yards into the
damnedest level obstical I ever saw. I think the only thing that ever
made it across unassisted was a cat - nothing with wheels.
Fortunately, it was easy enough to pull the venturesome souls out as
long as at least one vehicle kept it's feet dry so we all had to try
it a few times.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
08-28-2003, 04:11 PM
#7
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:52:09 UTC Lon Stowell <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Approximately 8/27/03 23:14, EdC uttered for posterity:
>
> > I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> > wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> > something about tackling simiar stuff.
> > It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> > a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> > DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> > built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> > down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> > work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> > although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> > on the priority list.
> > Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
> >
> Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
> close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
> momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
> is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
> wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
> down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
> logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
> navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
> still.
That brings back memories! When the Amistad Dam was finished (Del
Rio, TX on the Rio Grande) they took out a bridge across a river
feeding into it. It was a wide, shallow river with good flow about 12
inches deep. When they blew the bridge they made a quick trip to a
place I used into a 50 mile detour so we all decided to just ford the
river just above the old bridge. The river was a good 150 yards wide
there with what looked like a rock bottom - no problem. Turned out
that "rock bottom" consisted of bowling *****. Add the constant water
flow to lubricate them and that turned the 150 yards into the
damnedest level obstical I ever saw. I think the only thing that ever
made it across unassisted was a cat - nothing with wheels.
Fortunately, it was easy enough to pull the venturesome souls out as
long as at least one vehicle kept it's feet dry so we all had to try
it a few times.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
wrote:
> Approximately 8/27/03 23:14, EdC uttered for posterity:
>
> > I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> > wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> > something about tackling simiar stuff.
> > It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road on
> > a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> > DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> > built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> > down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> > work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> > although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade higher
> > on the priority list.
> > Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
> >
> Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
> close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
> momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
> is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
> wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
> down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
> logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
> navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
> still.
That brings back memories! When the Amistad Dam was finished (Del
Rio, TX on the Rio Grande) they took out a bridge across a river
feeding into it. It was a wide, shallow river with good flow about 12
inches deep. When they blew the bridge they made a quick trip to a
place I used into a 50 mile detour so we all decided to just ford the
river just above the old bridge. The river was a good 150 yards wide
there with what looked like a rock bottom - no problem. Turned out
that "rock bottom" consisted of bowling *****. Add the constant water
flow to lubricate them and that turned the 150 yards into the
damnedest level obstical I ever saw. I think the only thing that ever
made it across unassisted was a cat - nothing with wheels.
Fortunately, it was easy enough to pull the venturesome souls out as
long as at least one vehicle kept it's feet dry so we all had to try
it a few times.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
08-28-2003, 04:36 PM
#8
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dc5eSndTlO4z@anon.none.net>,
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>
> That brings back memories! When the Amistad Dam was finished (Del
> Rio, TX on the Rio Grande) they took out a bridge across a river
> feeding into it. It was a wide, shallow river with good flow about 12
> inches deep. When they blew the bridge they made a quick trip to a
> place I used into a 50 mile detour so we all decided to just ford the
> river just above the old bridge. The river was a good 150 yards wide
> there with what looked like a rock bottom - no problem. Turned out
> that "rock bottom" consisted of bowling *****. Add the constant water
> flow to lubricate them and that turned the 150 yards into the
> damnedest level obstical I ever saw. I think the only thing that ever
> made it across unassisted was a cat - nothing with wheels.
> Fortunately, it was easy enough to pull the venturesome souls out as
> long as at least one vehicle kept it's feet dry so we all had to try
> it a few times.
When was that?
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>
> That brings back memories! When the Amistad Dam was finished (Del
> Rio, TX on the Rio Grande) they took out a bridge across a river
> feeding into it. It was a wide, shallow river with good flow about 12
> inches deep. When they blew the bridge they made a quick trip to a
> place I used into a 50 mile detour so we all decided to just ford the
> river just above the old bridge. The river was a good 150 yards wide
> there with what looked like a rock bottom - no problem. Turned out
> that "rock bottom" consisted of bowling *****. Add the constant water
> flow to lubricate them and that turned the 150 yards into the
> damnedest level obstical I ever saw. I think the only thing that ever
> made it across unassisted was a cat - nothing with wheels.
> Fortunately, it was easy enough to pull the venturesome souls out as
> long as at least one vehicle kept it's feet dry so we all had to try
> it a few times.
When was that?
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----
08-28-2003, 04:36 PM
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dc5eSndTlO4z@anon.none.net>,
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>
> That brings back memories! When the Amistad Dam was finished (Del
> Rio, TX on the Rio Grande) they took out a bridge across a river
> feeding into it. It was a wide, shallow river with good flow about 12
> inches deep. When they blew the bridge they made a quick trip to a
> place I used into a 50 mile detour so we all decided to just ford the
> river just above the old bridge. The river was a good 150 yards wide
> there with what looked like a rock bottom - no problem. Turned out
> that "rock bottom" consisted of bowling *****. Add the constant water
> flow to lubricate them and that turned the 150 yards into the
> damnedest level obstical I ever saw. I think the only thing that ever
> made it across unassisted was a cat - nothing with wheels.
> Fortunately, it was easy enough to pull the venturesome souls out as
> long as at least one vehicle kept it's feet dry so we all had to try
> it a few times.
When was that?
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----
"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>
> That brings back memories! When the Amistad Dam was finished (Del
> Rio, TX on the Rio Grande) they took out a bridge across a river
> feeding into it. It was a wide, shallow river with good flow about 12
> inches deep. When they blew the bridge they made a quick trip to a
> place I used into a 50 mile detour so we all decided to just ford the
> river just above the old bridge. The river was a good 150 yards wide
> there with what looked like a rock bottom - no problem. Turned out
> that "rock bottom" consisted of bowling *****. Add the constant water
> flow to lubricate them and that turned the 150 yards into the
> damnedest level obstical I ever saw. I think the only thing that ever
> made it across unassisted was a cat - nothing with wheels.
> Fortunately, it was easy enough to pull the venturesome souls out as
> long as at least one vehicle kept it's feet dry so we all had to try
> it a few times.
When was that?
-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----
08-28-2003, 08:51 PM
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Terrain puzzlement
At least one locker would really help with this stuff. Worst stuff I ever
got into was back East on a popular pipeline run in Mahwah, NJ. The State
had dumped tons of blast rubble down a hillside along the trail and we'd
always try out new stuff by seeing if we could get up the stuff. It was
either winch it, or lock up & pray. Sure was fun.
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:S2qdnWDRsM363NOiXTWJkA@comcast.com...
> Approximately 8/27/03 23:14, EdC uttered for posterity:
>
> > I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> > wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> > something about tackling simiar stuff.
> > It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road
on
> > a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> > DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> > built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> > down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> > work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> > although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade
higher
> > on the priority list.
> > Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
> >
> Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
> close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
> momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
> is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
> wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
> down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
> logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
> navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
> still.
>
got into was back East on a popular pipeline run in Mahwah, NJ. The State
had dumped tons of blast rubble down a hillside along the trail and we'd
always try out new stuff by seeing if we could get up the stuff. It was
either winch it, or lock up & pray. Sure was fun.
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:S2qdnWDRsM363NOiXTWJkA@comcast.com...
> Approximately 8/27/03 23:14, EdC uttered for posterity:
>
> > I ran into a piece of road that beat me last weekend. Turned out to be a
> > wrong turn so I got to where I was going but I'm hoping someone knows
> > something about tackling simiar stuff.
> > It was a mountain pass outside of Las Vegas and was a well defined road
on
> > a grade somewhere between 4 to 6 percent. The killer part is that it is
> > DEEP golfball to baseball size LOOSE rock. I could not get any momentum
> > built up. It was like driving on ball bearings. I thought about airing
> > down but wasn't convinced it would have helped. Slow and careful didn't
> > work either. I've got 33in Wranglers all the way around. No lockers yet
> > although there were other parts of the day that pushed that upgrade
higher
> > on the priority list.
> > Is this kind of turf drivable (HOW?) or is it winch time?
> >
> Heh. The worst of that stuff is river polished rock that is really
> close to round. Only ways I've ever traversed it is to keep enough
> momentum that you more or less float on top of it. Or if there
> is a path that allows you to keep one side *off* the stuff. Or
> wait until it gets ground into the mud a bit. Can't imagine airing
> down would help, although the places I used to run into it were
> logging trails, where a big logging truck had little difficulty
> navigating...perhaps enough weight to get the marbles to stay
> still.
>