Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
06-13-2004, 01:23 AM
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Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
Any reason that these tires suck?
I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
Talk me out of it anyone?
-jeff
I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
Talk me out of it anyone?
-jeff
06-13-2004, 09:55 AM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
The MTR's wear 'really' fast on the street/highway and get torn all to
crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.
I just compared my BFG muds's with 30,000 miles on them to a friends
MTR's with less than 20K and I have over twice the tread left.
We had to look at mine really hard to try and find any cuts or chunks
out of them, there were a couple little dings.
His MTR's are shredded beyond any resale value. I sure wouldn't buy
them. (he wanted to dump them if he could get some money for them and
get BFG's)
Mine could be sold as 'almost new condition' with slight even wear
still.
We wheel on the same trails.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff
crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.
I just compared my BFG muds's with 30,000 miles on them to a friends
MTR's with less than 20K and I have over twice the tread left.
We had to look at mine really hard to try and find any cuts or chunks
out of them, there were a couple little dings.
His MTR's are shredded beyond any resale value. I sure wouldn't buy
them. (he wanted to dump them if he could get some money for them and
get BFG's)
Mine could be sold as 'almost new condition' with slight even wear
still.
We wheel on the same trails.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff
06-13-2004, 09:55 AM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
The MTR's wear 'really' fast on the street/highway and get torn all to
crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.
I just compared my BFG muds's with 30,000 miles on them to a friends
MTR's with less than 20K and I have over twice the tread left.
We had to look at mine really hard to try and find any cuts or chunks
out of them, there were a couple little dings.
His MTR's are shredded beyond any resale value. I sure wouldn't buy
them. (he wanted to dump them if he could get some money for them and
get BFG's)
Mine could be sold as 'almost new condition' with slight even wear
still.
We wheel on the same trails.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff
crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.
I just compared my BFG muds's with 30,000 miles on them to a friends
MTR's with less than 20K and I have over twice the tread left.
We had to look at mine really hard to try and find any cuts or chunks
out of them, there were a couple little dings.
His MTR's are shredded beyond any resale value. I sure wouldn't buy
them. (he wanted to dump them if he could get some money for them and
get BFG's)
Mine could be sold as 'almost new condition' with slight even wear
still.
We wheel on the same trails.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff
06-13-2004, 09:55 AM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
The MTR's wear 'really' fast on the street/highway and get torn all to
crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.
I just compared my BFG muds's with 30,000 miles on them to a friends
MTR's with less than 20K and I have over twice the tread left.
We had to look at mine really hard to try and find any cuts or chunks
out of them, there were a couple little dings.
His MTR's are shredded beyond any resale value. I sure wouldn't buy
them. (he wanted to dump them if he could get some money for them and
get BFG's)
Mine could be sold as 'almost new condition' with slight even wear
still.
We wheel on the same trails.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff
crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.
I just compared my BFG muds's with 30,000 miles on them to a friends
MTR's with less than 20K and I have over twice the tread left.
We had to look at mine really hard to try and find any cuts or chunks
out of them, there were a couple little dings.
His MTR's are shredded beyond any resale value. I sure wouldn't buy
them. (he wanted to dump them if he could get some money for them and
get BFG's)
Mine could be sold as 'almost new condition' with slight even wear
still.
We wheel on the same trails.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff
06-13-2004, 09:55 AM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
The MTR's wear 'really' fast on the street/highway and get torn all to
crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.
I just compared my BFG muds's with 30,000 miles on them to a friends
MTR's with less than 20K and I have over twice the tread left.
We had to look at mine really hard to try and find any cuts or chunks
out of them, there were a couple little dings.
His MTR's are shredded beyond any resale value. I sure wouldn't buy
them. (he wanted to dump them if he could get some money for them and
get BFG's)
Mine could be sold as 'almost new condition' with slight even wear
still.
We wheel on the same trails.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff
crap on sharp rocks or gravel roads.
I just compared my BFG muds's with 30,000 miles on them to a friends
MTR's with less than 20K and I have over twice the tread left.
We had to look at mine really hard to try and find any cuts or chunks
out of them, there were a couple little dings.
His MTR's are shredded beyond any resale value. I sure wouldn't buy
them. (he wanted to dump them if he could get some money for them and
get BFG's)
Mine could be sold as 'almost new condition' with slight even wear
still.
We wheel on the same trails.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> Any reason that these tires suck?
>
> I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
> include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
> However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
> I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
> rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> -jeff
06-13-2004, 11:23 AM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
On 13 Jun 2004 05:23:48 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>Any reason that these tires suck?
>
>I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
>include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
>However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
>I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
>rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
wasn't mentioned in your post.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>Any reason that these tires suck?
>
>I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
>include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
>However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
>I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
>rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
wasn't mentioned in your post.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
06-13-2004, 11:23 AM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
On 13 Jun 2004 05:23:48 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>Any reason that these tires suck?
>
>I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
>include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
>However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
>I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
>rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
wasn't mentioned in your post.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>Any reason that these tires suck?
>
>I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
>include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
>However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
>I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
>rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
wasn't mentioned in your post.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
06-13-2004, 11:23 AM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
On 13 Jun 2004 05:23:48 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>Any reason that these tires suck?
>
>I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
>include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
>However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
>I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
>rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
wasn't mentioned in your post.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>Any reason that these tires suck?
>
>I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
>include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
>However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
>I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
>rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
wasn't mentioned in your post.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
06-13-2004, 11:23 AM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
On 13 Jun 2004 05:23:48 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>Any reason that these tires suck?
>
>I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
>include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
>However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
>I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
>rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
wasn't mentioned in your post.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>Any reason that these tires suck?
>
>I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad driving, to
>include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central Oregon.
>However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud tires;
>I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to be
>rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the Goodyears.
> Talk me out of it anyone?
As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
wasn't mentioned in your post.
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
06-13-2004, 01:05 PM
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Re: Talk me out of buying Goodyear MT/R's?
"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 13 Jun 2004 05:23:48 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>
> >Any reason that these tires suck?
> >
> >I want a fairly aggressive tire for mostly street and some offroad
driving, to
> >include mud and wet snow in Western Oregon and rocky stuff in Central
Oregon.
> >However, I am not a recreational mudder and don't want or need true mud
tires;
> >I just don't wnat to fear mud, as I now do with my AT's. These seem to
be
> >rated a little better than the BFG MT's, so I am leaning towards the
Goodyears.
> > Talk me out of it anyone?
>
> As Mike noted they wear fast. but I say get 'em - they are terrific
> otherwise. They have great traction so you may not even air down for
> casual trails. They aren't great on ice and packed snow, but that
> wasn't mentioned in your post.
Judging from the broad range of uses these tires are getting I'd say it's
more than a safe call. The only negative I've heard is accelerated tire wear
vs BFG MTs. Also, pricing has become more competitive vs the BFGs. HAd they
not been over $50 more per tire I'd have chosen these last year over another
set of BFGs, just to see how they were. I'm very happy with the BFG MT kms,
however.