Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
08-16-2004, 09:39 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
to remember to look for is a rope that has a
> high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
> (depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
> varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
> material/coating.
Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
issue for normal inward winching.
Jerry
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news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
to remember to look for is a rope that has a
> high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
> (depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
> varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
> material/coating.
Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
issue for normal inward winching.
Jerry
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08-16-2004, 09:39 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
to remember to look for is a rope that has a
> high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
> (depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
> varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
> material/coating.
Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
issue for normal inward winching.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
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http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
to remember to look for is a rope that has a
> high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
> (depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
> varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
> material/coating.
Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
issue for normal inward winching.
Jerry
--
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PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
08-16-2004, 09:39 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
to remember to look for is a rope that has a
> high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
> (depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
> varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
> material/coating.
Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
issue for normal inward winching.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
to remember to look for is a rope that has a
> high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
> (depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
> varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
> material/coating.
Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
issue for normal inward winching.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
08-16-2004, 10:52 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
> to remember to look for is a rope that has a
>
>>high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
>>(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
>>varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
>>material/coating.
>
>
> Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
> beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
>
> On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
> is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
> issue for normal inward winching.
Do the newer synthetic ropes stretch as bad as the old nylon ones from
the 60's and 70's? We used to use one to bungee off the staging
platform of a 500 foot instrumentation tower... Twas roughly one
inch diameter.
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
> to remember to look for is a rope that has a
>
>>high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
>>(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
>>varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
>>material/coating.
>
>
> Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
> beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
>
> On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
> is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
> issue for normal inward winching.
Do the newer synthetic ropes stretch as bad as the old nylon ones from
the 60's and 70's? We used to use one to bungee off the staging
platform of a 500 foot instrumentation tower... Twas roughly one
inch diameter.
08-16-2004, 10:52 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
> to remember to look for is a rope that has a
>
>>high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
>>(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
>>varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
>>material/coating.
>
>
> Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
> beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
>
> On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
> is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
> issue for normal inward winching.
Do the newer synthetic ropes stretch as bad as the old nylon ones from
the 60's and 70's? We used to use one to bungee off the staging
platform of a 500 foot instrumentation tower... Twas roughly one
inch diameter.
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
> to remember to look for is a rope that has a
>
>>high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
>>(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
>>varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
>>material/coating.
>
>
> Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
> beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
>
> On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
> is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
> issue for normal inward winching.
Do the newer synthetic ropes stretch as bad as the old nylon ones from
the 60's and 70's? We used to use one to bungee off the staging
platform of a 500 foot instrumentation tower... Twas roughly one
inch diameter.
08-16-2004, 10:52 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
> to remember to look for is a rope that has a
>
>>high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
>>(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
>>varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
>>material/coating.
>
>
> Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
> beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
>
> On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
> is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
> issue for normal inward winching.
Do the newer synthetic ropes stretch as bad as the old nylon ones from
the 60's and 70's? We used to use one to bungee off the staging
platform of a 500 foot instrumentation tower... Twas roughly one
inch diameter.
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
> to remember to look for is a rope that has a
>
>>high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
>>(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
>>varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
>>material/coating.
>
>
> Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
> beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
>
> On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
> is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
> issue for normal inward winching.
Do the newer synthetic ropes stretch as bad as the old nylon ones from
the 60's and 70's? We used to use one to bungee off the staging
platform of a 500 foot instrumentation tower... Twas roughly one
inch diameter.
08-16-2004, 10:52 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
> to remember to look for is a rope that has a
>
>>high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
>>(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
>>varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
>>material/coating.
>
>
> Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
> beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
>
> On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
> is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
> issue for normal inward winching.
Do the newer synthetic ropes stretch as bad as the old nylon ones from
the 60's and 70's? We used to use one to bungee off the staging
platform of a 500 foot instrumentation tower... Twas roughly one
inch diameter.
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0408161101.5355f1ab@posting.google.c om...> One thing you have
> to remember to look for is a rope that has a
>
>>high-temp treatment or material for the first x number of feet
>>(depending on the size of your winch, this requirement of length
>>varies) so that the minimum first wrap of the line has this
>>material/coating.
>
>
> Name one rope that has that high-temp resistant x-number of feet at the
> beginning aside from Warn's new $700 winch rope. ;)
>
> On top of that, the only (!) time heat becomes an issue for synthetic rope
> is when you're using the winch's brake to spool rope out... heat is NOT an
> issue for normal inward winching.
Do the newer synthetic ropes stretch as bad as the old nylon ones from
the 60's and 70's? We used to use one to bungee off the staging
platform of a 500 foot instrumentation tower... Twas roughly one
inch diameter.
08-22-2004, 11:08 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:02:04 -0400, "HarryS" <NoSPAM@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
>every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
>by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
>Kevlar and it was garbage.
I would expect it to be strong in compression but not in tension.
Pulling is tension.
> It does not take sharp bends very well
Tension.
>and frays
>way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
>would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
>why doesn't the military use it
Bullet and shrapnel impacts are compression.
>and where is the UL listing?
Does that apply to non-electrical items?
> Food for thought.
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wrote:
>Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
>every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
>by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
>Kevlar and it was garbage.
I would expect it to be strong in compression but not in tension.
Pulling is tension.
> It does not take sharp bends very well
Tension.
>and frays
>way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
>would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
>why doesn't the military use it
Bullet and shrapnel impacts are compression.
>and where is the UL listing?
Does that apply to non-electrical items?
> Food for thought.
--
W§ mostly in m.s - http://members.1stconnect.com/anozira
08-22-2004, 11:08 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:02:04 -0400, "HarryS" <NoSPAM@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
>every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
>by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
>Kevlar and it was garbage.
I would expect it to be strong in compression but not in tension.
Pulling is tension.
> It does not take sharp bends very well
Tension.
>and frays
>way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
>would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
>why doesn't the military use it
Bullet and shrapnel impacts are compression.
>and where is the UL listing?
Does that apply to non-electrical items?
> Food for thought.
--
W§ mostly in m.s - http://members.1stconnect.com/anozira
wrote:
>Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
>every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
>by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
>Kevlar and it was garbage.
I would expect it to be strong in compression but not in tension.
Pulling is tension.
> It does not take sharp bends very well
Tension.
>and frays
>way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
>would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
>why doesn't the military use it
Bullet and shrapnel impacts are compression.
>and where is the UL listing?
Does that apply to non-electrical items?
> Food for thought.
--
W§ mostly in m.s - http://members.1stconnect.com/anozira
08-22-2004, 11:08 PM
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Re: Synthetic Rope for Winch Cable ?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 20:02:04 -0400, "HarryS" <NoSPAM@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
>every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
>by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
>Kevlar and it was garbage.
I would expect it to be strong in compression but not in tension.
Pulling is tension.
> It does not take sharp bends very well
Tension.
>and frays
>way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
>would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
>why doesn't the military use it
Bullet and shrapnel impacts are compression.
>and where is the UL listing?
Does that apply to non-electrical items?
> Food for thought.
--
W§ mostly in m.s - http://members.1stconnect.com/anozira
wrote:
>Well, yes but not on a winch. Our unit was part of a pilot program to test
>every thing from Samson Braid to wire rope (steel cable). The best product
>by far was the wire rope. We tested some supposed high tensile strength
>Kevlar and it was garbage.
I would expect it to be strong in compression but not in tension.
Pulling is tension.
> It does not take sharp bends very well
Tension.
>and frays
>way to easy. I would not but my life especially my jeep in a situation that
>would render either useless on the clone cabling. If the stuff is so god
>why doesn't the military use it
Bullet and shrapnel impacts are compression.
>and where is the UL listing?
Does that apply to non-electrical items?
> Food for thought.
--
W§ mostly in m.s - http://members.1stconnect.com/anozira
