synthetic oil...
07-16-2006, 05:33 PM
#31
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Re: synthetic oil...
So any reason NOT to go for Mobil 1 (given that is what the Jeep dealer
recommends / puts in if you are silly/lazy enough to get them to do it) ?
Price is only a few quid more than the Castrol GTX Magnatec or whatever
semi-synth; not worth worrying about.
Dave Milne, Scotland
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152725900.409830.71990@s13g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Synthetic oils-Amsoil is as good as any-are a big benefit under the
> most severe temperature or duty cycle fluctuations, and under extreme
> stress provided the film is kept intact. The downsides are that seals
> for reciprocating engines are engineered for petroleum and not
> synthetic oils, also petroleum oils have superior contaminant bearing
> and corrosionproofing qualities.
recommends / puts in if you are silly/lazy enough to get them to do it) ?
Price is only a few quid more than the Castrol GTX Magnatec or whatever
semi-synth; not worth worrying about.
Dave Milne, Scotland
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152725900.409830.71990@s13g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Synthetic oils-Amsoil is as good as any-are a big benefit under the
> most severe temperature or duty cycle fluctuations, and under extreme
> stress provided the film is kept intact. The downsides are that seals
> for reciprocating engines are engineered for petroleum and not
> synthetic oils, also petroleum oils have superior contaminant bearing
> and corrosionproofing qualities.
07-16-2006, 05:56 PM
#32
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Re: synthetic oil...
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> first learned how to rip off man!
>
> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> people.
>
> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
always work as advertised.
Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
any problems.
You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
did.
I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
off.
07-16-2006, 05:56 PM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: synthetic oil...
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> first learned how to rip off man!
>
> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> people.
>
> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
always work as advertised.
Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
any problems.
You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
did.
I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
off.
07-16-2006, 05:56 PM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: synthetic oil...
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> first learned how to rip off man!
>
> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> people.
>
> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
always work as advertised.
Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
any problems.
You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
did.
I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
off.
07-16-2006, 06:29 PM
#35
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Posts: n/a
Re: synthetic oil...
He's not the only one who feels that way about Amsoil. I hate their
marketing practices and how they falsely allude to being API certified
when they are not... at least the vast (!) majority of their products
are not API certified. All it takes is to admit to a dealership, or
they test and find out for themselves, that someone with a blown engine
used a non-API certified engine oil like Amsoil for them to deny
warranty coverage. They're just another multi-level marketing
organization so far as I am concerned.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
>> first learned how to rip off man!
>>
>> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
>> people.
>>
>> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
>> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
marketing practices and how they falsely allude to being API certified
when they are not... at least the vast (!) majority of their products
are not API certified. All it takes is to admit to a dealership, or
they test and find out for themselves, that someone with a blown engine
used a non-API certified engine oil like Amsoil for them to deny
warranty coverage. They're just another multi-level marketing
organization so far as I am concerned.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
>> first learned how to rip off man!
>>
>> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
>> people.
>>
>> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
>> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-16-2006, 06:29 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: synthetic oil...
He's not the only one who feels that way about Amsoil. I hate their
marketing practices and how they falsely allude to being API certified
when they are not... at least the vast (!) majority of their products
are not API certified. All it takes is to admit to a dealership, or
they test and find out for themselves, that someone with a blown engine
used a non-API certified engine oil like Amsoil for them to deny
warranty coverage. They're just another multi-level marketing
organization so far as I am concerned.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
>> first learned how to rip off man!
>>
>> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
>> people.
>>
>> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
>> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
marketing practices and how they falsely allude to being API certified
when they are not... at least the vast (!) majority of their products
are not API certified. All it takes is to admit to a dealership, or
they test and find out for themselves, that someone with a blown engine
used a non-API certified engine oil like Amsoil for them to deny
warranty coverage. They're just another multi-level marketing
organization so far as I am concerned.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
>> first learned how to rip off man!
>>
>> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
>> people.
>>
>> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
>> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-16-2006, 06:29 PM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: synthetic oil...
He's not the only one who feels that way about Amsoil. I hate their
marketing practices and how they falsely allude to being API certified
when they are not... at least the vast (!) majority of their products
are not API certified. All it takes is to admit to a dealership, or
they test and find out for themselves, that someone with a blown engine
used a non-API certified engine oil like Amsoil for them to deny
warranty coverage. They're just another multi-level marketing
organization so far as I am concerned.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
>> first learned how to rip off man!
>>
>> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
>> people.
>>
>> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
>> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
marketing practices and how they falsely allude to being API certified
when they are not... at least the vast (!) majority of their products
are not API certified. All it takes is to admit to a dealership, or
they test and find out for themselves, that someone with a blown engine
used a non-API certified engine oil like Amsoil for them to deny
warranty coverage. They're just another multi-level marketing
organization so far as I am concerned.
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
>> first learned how to rip off man!
>>
>> I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
>> people.
>>
>> Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
>> tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-16-2006, 07:54 PM
#38
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Re: synthetic oil...
Go ahead and buy an Amsoil dealership. I am sure it would tick Mike off.
I'll bet Bill wouldn't like it either. I would be livid!
Go ahead and do it...
Earle
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153086990.155858.230580@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> > first learned how to rip off man!
> >
> > I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> > people.
> >
> > Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> > tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
I'll bet Bill wouldn't like it either. I would be livid!
Go ahead and do it...
Earle
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153086990.155858.230580@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> > first learned how to rip off man!
> >
> > I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> > people.
> >
> > Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> > tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
07-16-2006, 07:54 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: synthetic oil...
Go ahead and buy an Amsoil dealership. I am sure it would tick Mike off.
I'll bet Bill wouldn't like it either. I would be livid!
Go ahead and do it...
Earle
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153086990.155858.230580@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> > first learned how to rip off man!
> >
> > I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> > people.
> >
> > Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> > tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
I'll bet Bill wouldn't like it either. I would be livid!
Go ahead and do it...
Earle
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153086990.155858.230580@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> > first learned how to rip off man!
> >
> > I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> > people.
> >
> > Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> > tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
07-16-2006, 07:54 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: synthetic oil...
Go ahead and buy an Amsoil dealership. I am sure it would tick Mike off.
I'll bet Bill wouldn't like it either. I would be livid!
Go ahead and do it...
Earle
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153086990.155858.230580@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> > first learned how to rip off man!
> >
> > I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> > people.
> >
> > Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> > tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>
I'll bet Bill wouldn't like it either. I would be livid!
Go ahead and do it...
Earle
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153086990.155858.230580@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > ROTFLMAO!
> >
> > You think 'snake oil' is 'new', man oh man, it has been around since man
> > first learned how to rip off man!
> >
> > I just don't think we need people on this group that promote ripping off
> > people.
> >
> > Just because 'there is a sucker born every day' doesn't mean I have to
> > tolerate the Scam artists. Especially slime like Spamsoil droids.
>
>
> Who are you, Mike Romain, to say what is and is not good? Amsoil has
> many satisfied customers and many of those have hundreds of thousands
> of miles of success with it. But yet YOU say it's no good. You have a
> seep seated psychological hatred for that company but they have never
> defrauded you. You know fully well in fact that their products most
> always work as advertised.
>
> Amsoil may or may not be the best product or the most cost effective.
> But it is a product that is truthfully sold and in fact few people have
> any problems.
>
> You are a goofball, Mike, and you always back up Bill ------ no matter
> how stupid something he says is. You are in fact a lazy fat mountebank,
> because you want the benefits of a moderated newsgroup while being
> unwilling to do the work. You always blow your rear end about your
> idiotic charter, you didn't pay to invent the Internet, US tax payers
> did.
>
> I'm seriously thinking of buying an Amsoil dealership just to **** you
> off.
>