nrs

On Oct 4, 5:51 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote:
> Figure it was God's will, to wait until something comes alone with the
> equipment you want. Anti-lock Braking System is not what you want off-road:http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1191537880.190357.95540@g4g2000hsf.googlegrou ps.com...
>
>
>
> > Well, it got sold. I didn't move on it fast enough.
>
> --
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I agree, I'll keep looking for the right one. I used to have a ZJ
with ABS and there is a turn with a bump in town where the ABS would
always kick in and make the braking very weak just where you really
had to reduce your speed. Not a good feeling.

Earle Horton

Yep. I just figured I would throw that in. I know it's farfetched, but I
wouldn't fancy getting in front of a jury and explaining how I removed part
of the stock braking system because it actually made braking worse. I'm
just a poor retired guy and I don't even have an ASE diploma. How would I
know stuff like that?

Cheers,

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:4705a90c$0$26418$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Hi Earle,
> This is a litigious society, up until a couple of years ago, BMWs
> passenger cars and Mercedes 4X4s for a couple, had a switch to disconnect
> ABS.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fe496u$ghc$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > True, but if you intentionally disabled the ABS, and then caused serious
> > damage by smashing into something else, your insurance company would
have
> > grounds to disallow any and all claims made by or against you. ABS
> > theoretically makes the vehicle safer, you see. Installing a Dana 44
> > without ABS is theoretically disabling the safety features that the
> vehicle
> > was sold with. I am waiting for them to get legislation passed, that
> would
> > disallow claims made by or against those bozos who refuse to wear seat
> > belts.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Earle Horton

Yep. I just figured I would throw that in. I know it's farfetched, but I
wouldn't fancy getting in front of a jury and explaining how I removed part
of the stock braking system because it actually made braking worse. I'm
just a poor retired guy and I don't even have an ASE diploma. How would I
know stuff like that?

Cheers,

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:4705a90c$0$26418$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Hi Earle,
> This is a litigious society, up until a couple of years ago, BMWs
> passenger cars and Mercedes 4X4s for a couple, had a switch to disconnect
> ABS.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fe496u$ghc$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > True, but if you intentionally disabled the ABS, and then caused serious
> > damage by smashing into something else, your insurance company would
have
> > grounds to disallow any and all claims made by or against you. ABS
> > theoretically makes the vehicle safer, you see. Installing a Dana 44
> > without ABS is theoretically disabling the safety features that the
> vehicle
> > was sold with. I am waiting for them to get legislation passed, that
> would
> > disallow claims made by or against those bozos who refuse to wear seat
> > belts.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Earle Horton

Yep. I just figured I would throw that in. I know it's farfetched, but I
wouldn't fancy getting in front of a jury and explaining how I removed part
of the stock braking system because it actually made braking worse. I'm
just a poor retired guy and I don't even have an ASE diploma. How would I
know stuff like that?

Cheers,

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:4705a90c$0$26418$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Hi Earle,
> This is a litigious society, up until a couple of years ago, BMWs
> passenger cars and Mercedes 4X4s for a couple, had a switch to disconnect
> ABS.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fe496u$ghc$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > True, but if you intentionally disabled the ABS, and then caused serious
> > damage by smashing into something else, your insurance company would
have
> > grounds to disallow any and all claims made by or against you. ABS
> > theoretically makes the vehicle safer, you see. Installing a Dana 44
> > without ABS is theoretically disabling the safety features that the
> vehicle
> > was sold with. I am waiting for them to get legislation passed, that
> would
> > disallow claims made by or against those bozos who refuse to wear seat
> > belts.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Earle Horton

Yep. I just figured I would throw that in. I know it's farfetched, but I
wouldn't fancy getting in front of a jury and explaining how I removed part
of the stock braking system because it actually made braking worse. I'm
just a poor retired guy and I don't even have an ASE diploma. How would I
know stuff like that?

Cheers,

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <LWBill------@------.net> wrote in message
news:4705a90c$0$26418$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Hi Earle,
> This is a litigious society, up until a couple of years ago, BMWs
> passenger cars and Mercedes 4X4s for a couple, had a switch to disconnect
> ABS.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:fe496u$ghc$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> > True, but if you intentionally disabled the ABS, and then caused serious
> > damage by smashing into something else, your insurance company would
have
> > grounds to disallow any and all claims made by or against you. ABS
> > theoretically makes the vehicle safer, you see. Installing a Dana 44
> > without ABS is theoretically disabling the safety features that the
> vehicle
> > was sold with. I am waiting for them to get legislation passed, that
> would
> > disallow claims made by or against those bozos who refuse to wear seat
> > belts.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Earle
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

FDC

2002 4.0L I6 TJ Manual Tranny and until two weeks ago it never failed to
start on the first crank. Two weeks ago I was setting at stop sign when the
person behind me, for unknown reasons, thought I had pulled out and proceded
to drive her little chevy car under the rear of my Jeep. My spare tire and
tow hooks pretty much destroyed the front of her car but my Jeep appeared
to be unaffected other then some scuffs on the gas tank.

The gas tank isn't dented at all, just some of the black paint is scruffed
off. There is no other damage , or even minor srapes , that I can see other
than some of her paint on the bottome of my spare tire and on the tow hooks.

Now if the Jeep sets more than 10 minutes after being shut off it doesn't
want to start. If I turn the key and just crank and crank and crank it won't
start at all. If I turn the key and crank crank crank, then stop, crank
crank crank again, stop and crank crank crank again, it will normally start
on the 3rd attempt. Sometimes it will almost start on the second 'crank
crank crank' but fails with what sounds like a muffled belch or backfire. I
checked the tank throughly I can't find even a small dent or any signs the
tank was pushed out of place... I don't know. I can't figure out if it
knocked somethign loose inside , maybe rust or something knocked loose and
now clogging a filter ? It runs pefectly once it's started though. It will
start just fine as long as it isn't allowed to set for long , almost as if
fuel is draining out of something when it sits long enough.

Any ideas ?

Farrell

FDC

2002 4.0L I6 TJ Manual Tranny and until two weeks ago it never failed to
start on the first crank. Two weeks ago I was setting at stop sign when the
person behind me, for unknown reasons, thought I had pulled out and proceded
to drive her little chevy car under the rear of my Jeep. My spare tire and
tow hooks pretty much destroyed the front of her car but my Jeep appeared
to be unaffected other then some scuffs on the gas tank.

The gas tank isn't dented at all, just some of the black paint is scruffed
off. There is no other damage , or even minor srapes , that I can see other
than some of her paint on the bottome of my spare tire and on the tow hooks.

Now if the Jeep sets more than 10 minutes after being shut off it doesn't
want to start. If I turn the key and just crank and crank and crank it won't
start at all. If I turn the key and crank crank crank, then stop, crank
crank crank again, stop and crank crank crank again, it will normally start
on the 3rd attempt. Sometimes it will almost start on the second 'crank
crank crank' but fails with what sounds like a muffled belch or backfire. I
checked the tank throughly I can't find even a small dent or any signs the
tank was pushed out of place... I don't know. I can't figure out if it
knocked somethign loose inside , maybe rust or something knocked loose and
now clogging a filter ? It runs pefectly once it's started though. It will
start just fine as long as it isn't allowed to set for long , almost as if
fuel is draining out of something when it sits long enough.

Any ideas ?

Farrell

FDC

2002 4.0L I6 TJ Manual Tranny and until two weeks ago it never failed to
start on the first crank. Two weeks ago I was setting at stop sign when the
person behind me, for unknown reasons, thought I had pulled out and proceded
to drive her little chevy car under the rear of my Jeep. My spare tire and
tow hooks pretty much destroyed the front of her car but my Jeep appeared
to be unaffected other then some scuffs on the gas tank.

The gas tank isn't dented at all, just some of the black paint is scruffed
off. There is no other damage , or even minor srapes , that I can see other
than some of her paint on the bottome of my spare tire and on the tow hooks.

Now if the Jeep sets more than 10 minutes after being shut off it doesn't
want to start. If I turn the key and just crank and crank and crank it won't
start at all. If I turn the key and crank crank crank, then stop, crank
crank crank again, stop and crank crank crank again, it will normally start
on the 3rd attempt. Sometimes it will almost start on the second 'crank
crank crank' but fails with what sounds like a muffled belch or backfire. I
checked the tank throughly I can't find even a small dent or any signs the
tank was pushed out of place... I don't know. I can't figure out if it
knocked somethign loose inside , maybe rust or something knocked loose and
now clogging a filter ? It runs pefectly once it's started though. It will
start just fine as long as it isn't allowed to set for long , almost as if
fuel is draining out of something when it sits long enough.

Any ideas ?

Farrell

FDC

2002 4.0L I6 TJ Manual Tranny and until two weeks ago it never failed to
start on the first crank. Two weeks ago I was setting at stop sign when the
person behind me, for unknown reasons, thought I had pulled out and proceded
to drive her little chevy car under the rear of my Jeep. My spare tire and
tow hooks pretty much destroyed the front of her car but my Jeep appeared
to be unaffected other then some scuffs on the gas tank.

The gas tank isn't dented at all, just some of the black paint is scruffed
off. There is no other damage , or even minor srapes , that I can see other
than some of her paint on the bottome of my spare tire and on the tow hooks.

Now if the Jeep sets more than 10 minutes after being shut off it doesn't
want to start. If I turn the key and just crank and crank and crank it won't
start at all. If I turn the key and crank crank crank, then stop, crank
crank crank again, stop and crank crank crank again, it will normally start
on the 3rd attempt. Sometimes it will almost start on the second 'crank
crank crank' but fails with what sounds like a muffled belch or backfire. I
checked the tank throughly I can't find even a small dent or any signs the
tank was pushed out of place... I don't know. I can't figure out if it
knocked somethign loose inside , maybe rust or something knocked loose and
now clogging a filter ? It runs pefectly once it's started though. It will
start just fine as long as it isn't allowed to set for long , almost as if
fuel is draining out of something when it sits long enough.

Any ideas ?

Farrell

Mike Romain

I could be mistaken, but I was told some have an antidrainback valve
inside the gas tank on the pump.

I would suspect this valve has failed or jammed from the impact. I
would suspect you need a new in-tank pump/filter/valve unit which is
expensive.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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FDC wrote:
> 2002 4.0L I6 TJ Manual Tranny and until two weeks ago it never failed to
> start on the first crank. Two weeks ago I was setting at stop sign when the
> person behind me, for unknown reasons, thought I had pulled out and proceded
> to drive her little chevy car under the rear of my Jeep. My spare tire and
> tow hooks pretty much destroyed the front of her car but my Jeep appeared
> to be unaffected other then some scuffs on the gas tank.
>
> The gas tank isn't dented at all, just some of the black paint is scruffed
> off. There is no other damage , or even minor srapes , that I can see other
> than some of her paint on the bottome of my spare tire and on the tow hooks.
>
> Now if the Jeep sets more than 10 minutes after being shut off it doesn't
> want to start. If I turn the key and just crank and crank and crank it won't
> start at all. If I turn the key and crank crank crank, then stop, crank
> crank crank again, stop and crank crank crank again, it will normally start
> on the 3rd attempt. Sometimes it will almost start on the second 'crank
> crank crank' but fails with what sounds like a muffled belch or backfire. I
> checked the tank throughly I can't find even a small dent or any signs the
> tank was pushed out of place... I don't know. I can't figure out if it
> knocked somethign loose inside , maybe rust or something knocked loose and
> now clogging a filter ? It runs pefectly once it's started though. It will
> start just fine as long as it isn't allowed to set for long , almost as if
> fuel is draining out of something when it sits long enough.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> Farrell
>
>