stripped torx
05-21-2005, 11:18 PM
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
My Craftsman socket was the first one to break - even before I started using
the impact wrench. Then my neighbor's S/K. That is when I went to NAPA
because it was a 3 mile drive vs. 20 to replace the Craftsman. I bought 4
more at NAPA, broke 2 more with the impact wrench, then gave up. All 3
brands simply twisted halfway down the shaft & broke. I think the reason was
because the head of the bolts is only a couple mm deep, so the weakest part
of the shaft was left without support. Maybe they make some that are
designed for impact wrenches, but I couldn't find any that day.
--
Dana
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428FD6B2.62EEC3EC@***.net...
> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>>
>> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> tried
>> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> sockets
>> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> gave
>> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> heads,
>> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer
>> is
>> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> how
>> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
>> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want
>> to
>> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>>
>> Dana
>> 93 YJ
>> 90 XJ Ltd.
>> ---------------
>> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> 82 Cherokee
>> 76 Cherokee
>>
>> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> and
>> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
>> > quick
>> > fix or two.
>> >
>> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > with
>> > SS
>> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> >
>> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> >
>> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
>> > back
>> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
>> > the
>> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > i'm
>> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> >
>> > any suggestions would be great.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
the impact wrench. Then my neighbor's S/K. That is when I went to NAPA
because it was a 3 mile drive vs. 20 to replace the Craftsman. I bought 4
more at NAPA, broke 2 more with the impact wrench, then gave up. All 3
brands simply twisted halfway down the shaft & broke. I think the reason was
because the head of the bolts is only a couple mm deep, so the weakest part
of the shaft was left without support. Maybe they make some that are
designed for impact wrenches, but I couldn't find any that day.
--
Dana
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:428FD6B2.62EEC3EC@***.net...
> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>>
>> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> tried
>> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> sockets
>> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> gave
>> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> heads,
>> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer
>> is
>> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> how
>> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
>> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want
>> to
>> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>>
>> Dana
>> 93 YJ
>> 90 XJ Ltd.
>> ---------------
>> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> 82 Cherokee
>> 76 Cherokee
>>
>> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> and
>> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
>> > quick
>> > fix or two.
>> >
>> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > with
>> > SS
>> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> >
>> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> >
>> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
>> > back
>> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
>> > the
>> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > i'm
>> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> >
>> > any suggestions would be great.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >
05-21-2005, 11:28 PM
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
below zero!
--
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> the
> matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> carefully
> so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> it
> holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> to
> release the lock tight it will come out
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>> >
>> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> > tried
>> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> > sockets
>> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> > gave
>> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> > heads,
>> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>> > sealer is
>> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> > how
>> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>> > gun
>> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
>> > want to
>> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>> >
>> > Dana
>> > 93 YJ
>> > 90 XJ Ltd.
>> > ---------------
>> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> > 82 Cherokee
>> > 76 Cherokee
>> >
>> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> > and
>> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
>> > > a
>> > > quick
>> > > fix or two.
>> > >
>> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > > with
>> > > SS
>> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> > >
>> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> > >
>> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
>> > > all
>> > > back
>> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>> > > take
>> > > the
>> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > > i'm
>> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> > >
>> > > any suggestions would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>
soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
below zero!
--
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> the
> matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> carefully
> so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> it
> holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> to
> release the lock tight it will come out
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>> >
>> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> > tried
>> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> > sockets
>> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> > gave
>> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> > heads,
>> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>> > sealer is
>> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> > how
>> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>> > gun
>> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
>> > want to
>> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>> >
>> > Dana
>> > 93 YJ
>> > 90 XJ Ltd.
>> > ---------------
>> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> > 82 Cherokee
>> > 76 Cherokee
>> >
>> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> > and
>> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
>> > > a
>> > > quick
>> > > fix or two.
>> > >
>> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > > with
>> > > SS
>> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> > >
>> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> > >
>> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
>> > > all
>> > > back
>> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>> > > take
>> > > the
>> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > > i'm
>> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> > >
>> > > any suggestions would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>
05-21-2005, 11:28 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
below zero!
--
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> the
> matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> carefully
> so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> it
> holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> to
> release the lock tight it will come out
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>> >
>> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> > tried
>> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> > sockets
>> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> > gave
>> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> > heads,
>> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>> > sealer is
>> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> > how
>> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>> > gun
>> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
>> > want to
>> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>> >
>> > Dana
>> > 93 YJ
>> > 90 XJ Ltd.
>> > ---------------
>> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> > 82 Cherokee
>> > 76 Cherokee
>> >
>> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> > and
>> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
>> > > a
>> > > quick
>> > > fix or two.
>> > >
>> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > > with
>> > > SS
>> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> > >
>> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> > >
>> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
>> > > all
>> > > back
>> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>> > > take
>> > > the
>> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > > i'm
>> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> > >
>> > > any suggestions would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>
soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
below zero!
--
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> the
> matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> carefully
> so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> it
> holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> to
> release the lock tight it will come out
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>> >
>> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> > tried
>> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> > sockets
>> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> > gave
>> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> > heads,
>> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>> > sealer is
>> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> > how
>> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>> > gun
>> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
>> > want to
>> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>> >
>> > Dana
>> > 93 YJ
>> > 90 XJ Ltd.
>> > ---------------
>> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> > 82 Cherokee
>> > 76 Cherokee
>> >
>> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> > and
>> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
>> > > a
>> > > quick
>> > > fix or two.
>> > >
>> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > > with
>> > > SS
>> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> > >
>> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> > >
>> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
>> > > all
>> > > back
>> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>> > > take
>> > > the
>> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > > i'm
>> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> > >
>> > > any suggestions would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>
05-21-2005, 11:28 PM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
below zero!
--
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> the
> matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> carefully
> so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> it
> holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> to
> release the lock tight it will come out
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>> >
>> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> > tried
>> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> > sockets
>> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> > gave
>> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> > heads,
>> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>> > sealer is
>> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> > how
>> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>> > gun
>> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
>> > want to
>> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>> >
>> > Dana
>> > 93 YJ
>> > 90 XJ Ltd.
>> > ---------------
>> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> > 82 Cherokee
>> > 76 Cherokee
>> >
>> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> > and
>> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
>> > > a
>> > > quick
>> > > fix or two.
>> > >
>> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > > with
>> > > SS
>> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> > >
>> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> > >
>> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
>> > > all
>> > > back
>> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>> > > take
>> > > the
>> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > > i'm
>> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> > >
>> > > any suggestions would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>
soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
below zero!
--
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> the
> matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> carefully
> so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> it
> holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> to
> release the lock tight it will come out
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>> >
>> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> > tried
>> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> > sockets
>> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> > gave
>> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> > heads,
>> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>> > sealer is
>> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> > how
>> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>> > gun
>> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
>> > want to
>> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>> >
>> > Dana
>> > 93 YJ
>> > 90 XJ Ltd.
>> > ---------------
>> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> > 82 Cherokee
>> > 76 Cherokee
>> >
>> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> > and
>> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
>> > > a
>> > > quick
>> > > fix or two.
>> > >
>> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > > with
>> > > SS
>> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> > >
>> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> > >
>> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
>> > > all
>> > > back
>> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>> > > take
>> > > the
>> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > > i'm
>> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> > >
>> > > any suggestions would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>
05-21-2005, 11:28 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
below zero!
--
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> the
> matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> carefully
> so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> it
> holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> to
> release the lock tight it will come out
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>> >
>> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> > tried
>> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> > sockets
>> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> > gave
>> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> > heads,
>> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>> > sealer is
>> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> > how
>> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>> > gun
>> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
>> > want to
>> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>> >
>> > Dana
>> > 93 YJ
>> > 90 XJ Ltd.
>> > ---------------
>> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> > 82 Cherokee
>> > 76 Cherokee
>> >
>> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> > and
>> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
>> > > a
>> > > quick
>> > > fix or two.
>> > >
>> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > > with
>> > > SS
>> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> > >
>> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> > >
>> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
>> > > all
>> > > back
>> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>> > > take
>> > > the
>> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > > i'm
>> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> > >
>> > > any suggestions would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>
soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
below zero!
--
Dana
--
93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> the
> matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> carefully
> so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> it
> holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> to
> release the lock tight it will come out
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>> >
>> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> > tried
>> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> > sockets
>> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> > gave
>> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> > heads,
>> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>> > sealer is
>> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> > how
>> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>> > gun
>> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
>> > want to
>> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>> >
>> > Dana
>> > 93 YJ
>> > 90 XJ Ltd.
>> > ---------------
>> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> > 82 Cherokee
>> > 76 Cherokee
>> >
>> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> > and
>> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > > Hi Guys,
>> > >
>> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
>> > > a
>> > > quick
>> > > fix or two.
>> > >
>> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > > with
>> > > SS
>> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> > >
>> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> > >
>> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
>> > > all
>> > > back
>> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>> > > take
>> > > the
>> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > > i'm
>> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> > >
>> > > any suggestions would be great.
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > >
>
05-22-2005, 08:36 AM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
I have never seen a set come out without paint damage. It is easy
enough to sand down the hinges and repaint them, but the OP is changing
them so who cares?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
> soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
> couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
> you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
> degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
> and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
> off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
> below zero!
> --
> Dana
>
> --
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> > the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> > the
> > matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> > take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> > carefully
> > so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> > it
> > holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> > to
> > release the lock tight it will come out
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
> >> > tried
> >> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
> >> > sockets
> >> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
> >> > gave
> >> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
> >> > heads,
> >> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
> >> > sealer is
> >> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
> >> > how
> >> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
> >> > gun
> >> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
> >> > want to
> >> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >> >
> >> > Dana
> >> > 93 YJ
> >> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> >> > ---------------
> >> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> >> > 82 Cherokee
> >> > 76 Cherokee
> >> >
> >> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
> >> > and
> >> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> >> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> > > Hi Guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
> >> > > a
> >> > > quick
> >> > > fix or two.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
> >> > > with
> >> > > SS
> >> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >> > >
> >> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
> >> > > all
> >> > > back
> >> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
> >> > > take
> >> > > the
> >> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
> >> > > i'm
> >> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >> > >
> >> > > any suggestions would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
enough to sand down the hinges and repaint them, but the OP is changing
them so who cares?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
> soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
> couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
> you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
> degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
> and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
> off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
> below zero!
> --
> Dana
>
> --
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> > the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> > the
> > matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> > take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> > carefully
> > so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> > it
> > holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> > to
> > release the lock tight it will come out
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
> >> > tried
> >> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
> >> > sockets
> >> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
> >> > gave
> >> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
> >> > heads,
> >> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
> >> > sealer is
> >> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
> >> > how
> >> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
> >> > gun
> >> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
> >> > want to
> >> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >> >
> >> > Dana
> >> > 93 YJ
> >> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> >> > ---------------
> >> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> >> > 82 Cherokee
> >> > 76 Cherokee
> >> >
> >> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
> >> > and
> >> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> >> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> > > Hi Guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
> >> > > a
> >> > > quick
> >> > > fix or two.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
> >> > > with
> >> > > SS
> >> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >> > >
> >> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
> >> > > all
> >> > > back
> >> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
> >> > > take
> >> > > the
> >> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
> >> > > i'm
> >> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >> > >
> >> > > any suggestions would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
05-22-2005, 08:36 AM
#47
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
I have never seen a set come out without paint damage. It is easy
enough to sand down the hinges and repaint them, but the OP is changing
them so who cares?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
> soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
> couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
> you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
> degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
> and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
> off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
> below zero!
> --
> Dana
>
> --
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> > the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> > the
> > matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> > take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> > carefully
> > so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> > it
> > holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> > to
> > release the lock tight it will come out
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
> >> > tried
> >> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
> >> > sockets
> >> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
> >> > gave
> >> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
> >> > heads,
> >> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
> >> > sealer is
> >> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
> >> > how
> >> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
> >> > gun
> >> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
> >> > want to
> >> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >> >
> >> > Dana
> >> > 93 YJ
> >> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> >> > ---------------
> >> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> >> > 82 Cherokee
> >> > 76 Cherokee
> >> >
> >> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
> >> > and
> >> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> >> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> > > Hi Guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
> >> > > a
> >> > > quick
> >> > > fix or two.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
> >> > > with
> >> > > SS
> >> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >> > >
> >> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
> >> > > all
> >> > > back
> >> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
> >> > > take
> >> > > the
> >> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
> >> > > i'm
> >> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >> > >
> >> > > any suggestions would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
enough to sand down the hinges and repaint them, but the OP is changing
them so who cares?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
> soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
> couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
> you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
> degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
> and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
> off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
> below zero!
> --
> Dana
>
> --
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> > the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> > the
> > matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> > take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> > carefully
> > so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> > it
> > holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> > to
> > release the lock tight it will come out
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
> >> > tried
> >> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
> >> > sockets
> >> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
> >> > gave
> >> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
> >> > heads,
> >> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
> >> > sealer is
> >> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
> >> > how
> >> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
> >> > gun
> >> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
> >> > want to
> >> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >> >
> >> > Dana
> >> > 93 YJ
> >> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> >> > ---------------
> >> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> >> > 82 Cherokee
> >> > 76 Cherokee
> >> >
> >> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
> >> > and
> >> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> >> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> > > Hi Guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
> >> > > a
> >> > > quick
> >> > > fix or two.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
> >> > > with
> >> > > SS
> >> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >> > >
> >> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
> >> > > all
> >> > > back
> >> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
> >> > > take
> >> > > the
> >> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
> >> > > i'm
> >> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >> > >
> >> > > any suggestions would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
05-22-2005, 08:36 AM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
I have never seen a set come out without paint damage. It is easy
enough to sand down the hinges and repaint them, but the OP is changing
them so who cares?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
> soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
> couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
> you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
> degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
> and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
> off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
> below zero!
> --
> Dana
>
> --
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> > the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> > the
> > matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> > take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> > carefully
> > so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> > it
> > holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> > to
> > release the lock tight it will come out
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
> >> > tried
> >> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
> >> > sockets
> >> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
> >> > gave
> >> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
> >> > heads,
> >> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
> >> > sealer is
> >> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
> >> > how
> >> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
> >> > gun
> >> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
> >> > want to
> >> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >> >
> >> > Dana
> >> > 93 YJ
> >> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> >> > ---------------
> >> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> >> > 82 Cherokee
> >> > 76 Cherokee
> >> >
> >> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
> >> > and
> >> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> >> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> > > Hi Guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
> >> > > a
> >> > > quick
> >> > > fix or two.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
> >> > > with
> >> > > SS
> >> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >> > >
> >> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
> >> > > all
> >> > > back
> >> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
> >> > > take
> >> > > the
> >> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
> >> > > i'm
> >> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >> > >
> >> > > any suggestions would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
enough to sand down the hinges and repaint them, but the OP is changing
them so who cares?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
> soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
> couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
> you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
> degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
> and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
> off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
> below zero!
> --
> Dana
>
> --
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> > the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> > the
> > matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> > take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> > carefully
> > so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> > it
> > holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> > to
> > release the lock tight it will come out
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
> >> > tried
> >> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
> >> > sockets
> >> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
> >> > gave
> >> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
> >> > heads,
> >> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
> >> > sealer is
> >> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
> >> > how
> >> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
> >> > gun
> >> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
> >> > want to
> >> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >> >
> >> > Dana
> >> > 93 YJ
> >> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> >> > ---------------
> >> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> >> > 82 Cherokee
> >> > 76 Cherokee
> >> >
> >> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
> >> > and
> >> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> >> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> > > Hi Guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
> >> > > a
> >> > > quick
> >> > > fix or two.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
> >> > > with
> >> > > SS
> >> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >> > >
> >> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
> >> > > all
> >> > > back
> >> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
> >> > > take
> >> > > the
> >> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
> >> > > i'm
> >> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >> > >
> >> > > any suggestions would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
05-22-2005, 08:36 AM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
I have never seen a set come out without paint damage. It is easy
enough to sand down the hinges and repaint them, but the OP is changing
them so who cares?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
> soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
> couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
> you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
> degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
> and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
> off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
> below zero!
> --
> Dana
>
> --
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> > the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> > the
> > matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> > take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> > carefully
> > so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> > it
> > holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> > to
> > release the lock tight it will come out
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
> >> > tried
> >> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
> >> > sockets
> >> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
> >> > gave
> >> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
> >> > heads,
> >> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
> >> > sealer is
> >> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
> >> > how
> >> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
> >> > gun
> >> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
> >> > want to
> >> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >> >
> >> > Dana
> >> > 93 YJ
> >> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> >> > ---------------
> >> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> >> > 82 Cherokee
> >> > 76 Cherokee
> >> >
> >> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
> >> > and
> >> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> >> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> > > Hi Guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
> >> > > a
> >> > > quick
> >> > > fix or two.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
> >> > > with
> >> > > SS
> >> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >> > >
> >> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
> >> > > all
> >> > > back
> >> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
> >> > > take
> >> > > the
> >> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
> >> > > i'm
> >> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >> > >
> >> > > any suggestions would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
enough to sand down the hinges and repaint them, but the OP is changing
them so who cares?
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> How did you go about applying heat without mangling the paint? Would the
> soldering iron method get it hot enough? If I remember correctly (this was a
> couple years ago) after my torx bit fiasco, I think I read somewhere that
> you didn't need to get the bolt really hot, but something like 150-200
> degrees F and they would release, but I can't verify that. I just gave up
> and bought a $6 mirror and Velcro it to my rollbar whenever I take the doors
> off. And yes Bill, I do have to use doors occasionally up here when it gets
> below zero!
> --
> Dana
>
> --
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:428FE4C4.26778A52@cac.net...
> > the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with
> > the
> > matching extractors but when push comes to shove
> > take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out
> > carefully
> > so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what
> > it
> > holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat
> > to
> > release the lock tight it will come out
> >
> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> >> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >> >
> >> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
> >> > tried
> >> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
> >> > sockets
> >> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
> >> > gave
> >> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
> >> > heads,
> >> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
> >> > sealer is
> >> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
> >> > how
> >> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
> >> > gun
> >> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may
> >> > want to
> >> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >> >
> >> > Dana
> >> > 93 YJ
> >> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> >> > ---------------
> >> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> >> > 82 Cherokee
> >> > 76 Cherokee
> >> >
> >> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
> >> > and
> >> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> >> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> > > Hi Guys,
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have
> >> > > a
> >> > > quick
> >> > > fix or two.
> >> > >
> >> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
> >> > > with
> >> > > SS
> >> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >> > >
> >> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them
> >> > > all
> >> > > back
> >> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
> >> > > take
> >> > > the
> >> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
> >> > > i'm
> >> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >> > >
> >> > > any suggestions would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > Steve
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >
05-22-2005, 08:40 AM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: stripped torx
leslie (Spelling?)tool makes a solid 1 piece socket that is 3/8 impact
sustainable. it is black sold at a/c delco part stores and some uap stores.
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:_QSje.12051$bD5.11774@fe07.lga...
> My Craftsman socket was the first one to break - even before I started
> using the impact wrench. Then my neighbor's S/K. That is when I went to
> NAPA because it was a 3 mile drive vs. 20 to replace the Craftsman. I
> bought 4 more at NAPA, broke 2 more with the impact wrench, then gave up.
> All 3 brands simply twisted halfway down the shaft & broke. I think the
> reason was because the head of the bolts is only a couple mm deep, so the
> weakest part of the shaft was left without support. Maybe they make some
> that are designed for impact wrenches, but I couldn't find any that day.
> --
> Dana
>
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428FD6B2.62EEC3EC@***.net...
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>>>
>>> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>>> tried
>>> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>>> sockets
>>> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>>> gave
>>> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>>> heads,
>>> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>>> sealer is
>>> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>>> how
>>> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>>> gun
>>> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want
>>> to
>>> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>>>
>>> Dana
>>> 93 YJ
>>> 90 XJ Ltd.
>>> ---------------
>>> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>>> 82 Cherokee
>>> 76 Cherokee
>>>
>>> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>>> and
>>> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>>> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>> > Hi Guys,
>>> >
>>> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
>>> > quick
>>> > fix or two.
>>> >
>>> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>>> > with
>>> > SS
>>> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>>> >
>>> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>>> >
>>> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
>>> > back
>>> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>>> > take
>>> > the
>>> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>>> > i'm
>>> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>>> >
>>> > any suggestions would be great.
>>> >
>>> > Steve
>>> >
>>> >
>
>
sustainable. it is black sold at a/c delco part stores and some uap stores.
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:_QSje.12051$bD5.11774@fe07.lga...
> My Craftsman socket was the first one to break - even before I started
> using the impact wrench. Then my neighbor's S/K. That is when I went to
> NAPA because it was a 3 mile drive vs. 20 to replace the Craftsman. I
> bought 4 more at NAPA, broke 2 more with the impact wrench, then gave up.
> All 3 brands simply twisted halfway down the shaft & broke. I think the
> reason was because the head of the bolts is only a couple mm deep, so the
> weakest part of the shaft was left without support. Maybe they make some
> that are designed for impact wrenches, but I couldn't find any that day.
> --
> Dana
>
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:428FD6B2.62EEC3EC@***.net...
>> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>>>
>>> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>>> tried
>>> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>>> sockets
>>> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>>> gave
>>> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>>> heads,
>>> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread
>>> sealer is
>>> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>>> how
>>> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or
>>> gun
>>> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want
>>> to
>>> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>>>
>>> Dana
>>> 93 YJ
>>> 90 XJ Ltd.
>>> ---------------
>>> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>>> 82 Cherokee
>>> 76 Cherokee
>>>
>>> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>>> and
>>> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>>> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>> > Hi Guys,
>>> >
>>> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
>>> > quick
>>> > fix or two.
>>> >
>>> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>>> > with
>>> > SS
>>> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>>> >
>>> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>>> >
>>> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
>>> > back
>>> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to
>>> > take
>>> > the
>>> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>>> > i'm
>>> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>>> >
>>> > any suggestions would be great.
>>> >
>>> > Steve
>>> >
>>> >
>
>