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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-21-2005 08:47 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I tried
> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx sockets
> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I gave
> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any heads,
> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer is
> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know how
> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want to
> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>
> Dana
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
> > quick
> > fix or two.
> >
> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ with
> > SS
> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >
> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >
> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
> > back
> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
> > the
> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously i'm
> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >
> > any suggestions would be great.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-21-2005 08:47 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I tried
> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx sockets
> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I gave
> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any heads,
> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer is
> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know how
> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want to
> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>
> Dana
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
> > quick
> > fix or two.
> >
> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ with
> > SS
> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >
> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >
> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
> > back
> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
> > the
> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously i'm
> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >
> > any suggestions would be great.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-21-2005 08:47 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dana Rohleder wrote:
>
> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I tried
> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx sockets
> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I gave
> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any heads,
> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer is
> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know how
> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want to
> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>
> Dana
> 93 YJ
> 90 XJ Ltd.
> ---------------
> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> 82 Cherokee
> 76 Cherokee
>
> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
> > quick
> > fix or two.
> >
> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ with
> > SS
> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> >
> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> >
> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
> > back
> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
> > the
> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously i'm
> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> >
> > any suggestions would be great.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >


mic canic 05-21-2005 09:47 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with the
matching extractors but when push comes to shove
take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out carefully
so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what it
holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat to
release the lock tight it will come out

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >
> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I tried
> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx sockets
> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I gave
> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any heads,
> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer is
> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know how
> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want to
> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >
> > Dana
> > 93 YJ
> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> > ---------------
> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> > 82 Cherokee
> > 76 Cherokee
> >
> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
> > > quick
> > > fix or two.
> > >
> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ with
> > > SS
> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> > >
> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> > >
> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
> > > back
> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
> > > the
> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously i'm
> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> > >
> > > any suggestions would be great.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >



mic canic 05-21-2005 09:47 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with the
matching extractors but when push comes to shove
take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out carefully
so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what it
holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat to
release the lock tight it will come out

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >
> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I tried
> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx sockets
> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I gave
> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any heads,
> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer is
> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know how
> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want to
> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >
> > Dana
> > 93 YJ
> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> > ---------------
> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> > 82 Cherokee
> > 76 Cherokee
> >
> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
> > > quick
> > > fix or two.
> > >
> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ with
> > > SS
> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> > >
> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> > >
> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
> > > back
> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
> > > the
> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously i'm
> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> > >
> > > any suggestions would be great.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >



mic canic 05-21-2005 09:47 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with the
matching extractors but when push comes to shove
take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out carefully
so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what it
holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat to
release the lock tight it will come out

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >
> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I tried
> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx sockets
> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I gave
> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any heads,
> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer is
> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know how
> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want to
> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >
> > Dana
> > 93 YJ
> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> > ---------------
> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> > 82 Cherokee
> > 76 Cherokee
> >
> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
> > > quick
> > > fix or two.
> > >
> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ with
> > > SS
> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> > >
> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> > >
> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
> > > back
> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
> > > the
> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously i'm
> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> > >
> > > any suggestions would be great.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >



mic canic 05-21-2005 09:47 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
the left spin drill bits are the best way to if you can get the kit with the
matching extractors but when push comes to shove
take a drill bit that is i/8 inch bigger than the torqs and drill it out carefully
so it just pops thru the hole then there is enough hanging out from what it
holding in.a good and new visegrip can get a bite and with a little heat to
release the lock tight it will come out

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:

> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
> >
> > As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I tried
> > the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx sockets
> > (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I gave
> > up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any heads,
> > just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer is
> > evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know how
> > you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
> > held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want to
> > talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
> >
> > Dana
> > 93 YJ
> > 90 XJ Ltd.
> > ---------------
> > 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
> > 82 Cherokee
> > 76 Cherokee
> >
> > "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and
> > get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
> > "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
> > > quick
> > > fix or two.
> > >
> > > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ with
> > > SS
> > > pieces replacing the original pieces.
> > >
> > > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
> > >
> > > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
> > > back
> > > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
> > > the
> > > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously i'm
> > > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
> > >
> > > any suggestions would be great.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >



Dana Rohleder 05-21-2005 11:18 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
My Craftsman socket was the first one to break - even before I started using
the impact wrench. Then my neighbor's S/K. That is when I went to NAPA
because it was a 3 mile drive vs. 20 to replace the Craftsman. I bought 4
more at NAPA, broke 2 more with the impact wrench, then gave up. All 3
brands simply twisted halfway down the shaft & broke. I think the reason was
because the head of the bolts is only a couple mm deep, so the weakest part
of the shaft was left without support. Maybe they make some that are
designed for impact wrenches, but I couldn't find any that day.
--
Dana

93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:428FD6B2.62EEC3EC@cox.net...
> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>>
>> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> tried
>> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> sockets
>> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> gave
>> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> heads,
>> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer
>> is
>> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> how
>> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
>> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want
>> to
>> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>>
>> Dana
>> 93 YJ
>> 90 XJ Ltd.
>> ---------------
>> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> 82 Cherokee
>> 76 Cherokee
>>
>> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> and
>> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
>> > quick
>> > fix or two.
>> >
>> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > with
>> > SS
>> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> >
>> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> >
>> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
>> > back
>> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
>> > the
>> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > i'm
>> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> >
>> > any suggestions would be great.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >




Dana Rohleder 05-21-2005 11:18 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
My Craftsman socket was the first one to break - even before I started using
the impact wrench. Then my neighbor's S/K. That is when I went to NAPA
because it was a 3 mile drive vs. 20 to replace the Craftsman. I bought 4
more at NAPA, broke 2 more with the impact wrench, then gave up. All 3
brands simply twisted halfway down the shaft & broke. I think the reason was
because the head of the bolts is only a couple mm deep, so the weakest part
of the shaft was left without support. Maybe they make some that are
designed for impact wrenches, but I couldn't find any that day.
--
Dana

93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:428FD6B2.62EEC3EC@cox.net...
> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>>
>> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> tried
>> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> sockets
>> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> gave
>> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> heads,
>> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer
>> is
>> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> how
>> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
>> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want
>> to
>> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>>
>> Dana
>> 93 YJ
>> 90 XJ Ltd.
>> ---------------
>> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> 82 Cherokee
>> 76 Cherokee
>>
>> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> and
>> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
>> > quick
>> > fix or two.
>> >
>> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > with
>> > SS
>> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> >
>> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> >
>> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
>> > back
>> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
>> > the
>> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > i'm
>> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> >
>> > any suggestions would be great.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >




Dana Rohleder 05-21-2005 11:18 PM

Re: stripped torx
 
My Craftsman socket was the first one to break - even before I started using
the impact wrench. Then my neighbor's S/K. That is when I went to NAPA
because it was a 3 mile drive vs. 20 to replace the Craftsman. I bought 4
more at NAPA, broke 2 more with the impact wrench, then gave up. All 3
brands simply twisted halfway down the shaft & broke. I think the reason was
because the head of the bolts is only a couple mm deep, so the weakest part
of the shaft was left without support. Maybe they make some that are
designed for impact wrenches, but I couldn't find any that day.
--
Dana

93 YJ
90 XJ Ltd.
---------------
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee
76 Cherokee


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:428FD6B2.62EEC3EC@cox.net...
> Next time buy Craftsman or Snap-On.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dana Rohleder wrote:
>>
>> As Mike says, they are put on with a heat-activated thread sealer. I
>> tried
>> the impact wrench method suggested by Bill on my YJ - 5 broken torx
>> sockets
>> (replaced by NAPA under warranty) and 3 big gouges in my paint later, I
>> gave
>> up. I managed to get only one bolt out. Luckily, I didn't strip any
>> heads,
>> just broke the sockets - twisted the mothers right off. The thread sealer
>> is
>> evil stuff. Heat is likely the only way to get it off, but I don't know
>> how
>> you would do it and not ruin your paint. Possibly a soldering iron or gun
>> held right on the head would create enough heat to melt it. You may want
>> to
>> talk to a Jeep body shop to see how they do it.
>>
>> Dana
>> 93 YJ
>> 90 XJ Ltd.
>> ---------------
>> 91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
>> 82 Cherokee
>> 76 Cherokee
>>
>> "It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us
>> and
>> get them out of harm's way." GW Bush -Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
>> "diablo" <diablo@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:JFNje.218$lI2.177@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > i'm sure you've all encountered this problem, and therefore may have a
>> > quick
>> > fix or two.
>> >
>> > i'm replacing all the hinges, catches, loops and mirrors on a 93 YJ
>> > with
>> > SS
>> > pieces replacing the original pieces.
>> >
>> > took my torx heads and wrench, took one out no problem.
>> >
>> > next one ended up stripped..and the next one...managed to get them all
>> > back
>> > in til i fix this dilema. i used small movements, wasn't trying to take
>> > the
>> > screw out in one go...seems like the metal is so darn soft. obviously
>> > i'm
>> > going to be taking out about a dozen plus, so...
>> >
>> > any suggestions would be great.
>> >
>> > Steve
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