Strange XJ behavior
09-30-2003, 06:19 PM
#21
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Re: Strange XJ behavior
Both ends, eh....
There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
Mike
Snow wrote:
>
> They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > Problem...
> > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had, first
> she
> > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ. she
> > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it, turned
> it
> > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart the
> XJ
> > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she said
> she
> > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click click
> > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I went
> out
> > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything was
> normal
> > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> started
> > > no problems.
> > >
> > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> wanting
> > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
Mike
Snow wrote:
>
> They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
>
> Snow...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > Problem...
> > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had, first
> she
> > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ. she
> > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it, turned
> it
> > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart the
> XJ
> > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she said
> she
> > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click click
> > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I went
> out
> > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything was
> normal
> > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> started
> > > no problems.
> > >
> > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> wanting
> > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
09-30-2003, 07:34 PM
#22
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Re: Strange XJ behavior
Ignition switch? Mike loves that ground cable. I read him post about it so
many times that I have a 1" wide one I added to mine lol.
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7A017F.11E173DD@sympatico.ca...
> Both ends, eh....
>
> There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
>
> Mike
>
> Snow wrote:
> >
> > They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
> >
> > Snow...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Snow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Problem...
> > > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had,
first
> > she
> > > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ.
she
> > > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it,
turned
> > it
> > > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart
the
> > XJ
> > > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she
said
> > she
> > > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click
click
> > > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I
went
> > out
> > > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything
was
> > normal
> > > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> > started
> > > > no problems.
> > > >
> > > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> > wanting
> > > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
many times that I have a 1" wide one I added to mine lol.
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7A017F.11E173DD@sympatico.ca...
> Both ends, eh....
>
> There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
>
> Mike
>
> Snow wrote:
> >
> > They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
> >
> > Snow...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Snow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Problem...
> > > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had,
first
> > she
> > > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ.
she
> > > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it,
turned
> > it
> > > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart
the
> > XJ
> > > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she
said
> > she
> > > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click
click
> > > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I
went
> > out
> > > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything
was
> > normal
> > > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> > started
> > > > no problems.
> > > >
> > > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> > wanting
> > > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
09-30-2003, 07:34 PM
#23
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Re: Strange XJ behavior
Ignition switch? Mike loves that ground cable. I read him post about it so
many times that I have a 1" wide one I added to mine lol.
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7A017F.11E173DD@sympatico.ca...
> Both ends, eh....
>
> There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
>
> Mike
>
> Snow wrote:
> >
> > They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
> >
> > Snow...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Snow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Problem...
> > > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had,
first
> > she
> > > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ.
she
> > > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it,
turned
> > it
> > > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart
the
> > XJ
> > > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she
said
> > she
> > > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click
click
> > > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I
went
> > out
> > > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything
was
> > normal
> > > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> > started
> > > > no problems.
> > > >
> > > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> > wanting
> > > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
many times that I have a 1" wide one I added to mine lol.
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7A017F.11E173DD@sympatico.ca...
> Both ends, eh....
>
> There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
>
> Mike
>
> Snow wrote:
> >
> > They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
> >
> > Snow...
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Snow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Problem...
> > > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had,
first
> > she
> > > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ.
she
> > > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it,
turned
> > it
> > > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart
the
> > XJ
> > > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she
said
> > she
> > > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click
click
> > > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I
went
> > out
> > > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything
was
> > normal
> > > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> > started
> > > > no problems.
> > > >
> > > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> > wanting
> > > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
09-30-2003, 08:53 PM
#24
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Re: Strange XJ behavior
LOL!
I live in the rust belt and that open mesh cable just rots.
The one on our Cherokee crumbled to dust when I rolled it in my fingers
after changing the CPS.....
No buzzers does not imply the ignition switch, maybe the key switch, but
more likely a power failure in my mind.
Mike
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Ignition switch? Mike loves that ground cable. I read him post about it so
> many times that I have a 1" wide one I added to mine lol.
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7A017F.11E173DD@sympatico.ca...
> > Both ends, eh....
> >
> > There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
> > >
> > > Snow...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > > > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Snow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem...
> > > > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had,
> first
> > > she
> > > > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ.
> she
> > > > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it,
> turned
> > > it
> > > > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart
> the
> > > XJ
> > > > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she
> said
> > > she
> > > > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click
> click
> > > > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I
> went
> > > out
> > > > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything
> was
> > > normal
> > > > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> > > started
> > > > > no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> > > wanting
> > > > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
I live in the rust belt and that open mesh cable just rots.
The one on our Cherokee crumbled to dust when I rolled it in my fingers
after changing the CPS.....
No buzzers does not imply the ignition switch, maybe the key switch, but
more likely a power failure in my mind.
Mike
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Ignition switch? Mike loves that ground cable. I read him post about it so
> many times that I have a 1" wide one I added to mine lol.
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7A017F.11E173DD@sympatico.ca...
> > Both ends, eh....
> >
> > There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
> > >
> > > Snow...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > > > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Snow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem...
> > > > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had,
> first
> > > she
> > > > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ.
> she
> > > > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it,
> turned
> > > it
> > > > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart
> the
> > > XJ
> > > > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she
> said
> > > she
> > > > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click
> click
> > > > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I
> went
> > > out
> > > > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything
> was
> > > normal
> > > > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> > > started
> > > > > no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> > > wanting
> > > > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
09-30-2003, 08:53 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Strange XJ behavior
LOL!
I live in the rust belt and that open mesh cable just rots.
The one on our Cherokee crumbled to dust when I rolled it in my fingers
after changing the CPS.....
No buzzers does not imply the ignition switch, maybe the key switch, but
more likely a power failure in my mind.
Mike
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Ignition switch? Mike loves that ground cable. I read him post about it so
> many times that I have a 1" wide one I added to mine lol.
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7A017F.11E173DD@sympatico.ca...
> > Both ends, eh....
> >
> > There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
> > >
> > > Snow...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > > > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Snow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem...
> > > > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had,
> first
> > > she
> > > > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ.
> she
> > > > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it,
> turned
> > > it
> > > > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart
> the
> > > XJ
> > > > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she
> said
> > > she
> > > > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click
> click
> > > > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I
> went
> > > out
> > > > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything
> was
> > > normal
> > > > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> > > started
> > > > > no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> > > wanting
> > > > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
I live in the rust belt and that open mesh cable just rots.
The one on our Cherokee crumbled to dust when I rolled it in my fingers
after changing the CPS.....
No buzzers does not imply the ignition switch, maybe the key switch, but
more likely a power failure in my mind.
Mike
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Ignition switch? Mike loves that ground cable. I read him post about it so
> many times that I have a 1" wide one I added to mine lol.
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7A017F.11E173DD@sympatico.ca...
> > Both ends, eh....
> >
> > There also is a ground strap from the head to the firewall.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > They seemed tight and clean but I will check them again.
> > >
> > > Snow...
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:3F79E2E2.4CE8BA7E@sympatico.ca...
> > > > You are describing a dirty or loose main battery cable.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Snow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem...
> > > > > Wifey went out to start the XJ and go to an appointment she had,
> first
> > > she
> > > > > had to play musical cars as I had parked my baby LTD behind the XJ.
> she
> > > > > moved my car started the XJ moved it onto the road and parked it,
> turned
> > > it
> > > > > off and drove my car back into the drive. When she went to restart
> the
> > > XJ
> > > > > (less then 5 minutes after turning it off) it wouldn't start, she
> said
> > > she
> > > > > had nothing, no radio, no buzzers and most of all not even a click
> click
> > > > > sound from under the hood. After she came back in and got me, I
> went
> > > out
> > > > > and turned the key... BINGO!! it started first try and everything
> was
> > > normal
> > > > > (rpm, volt, etc.). I shut of the XJ and tried again, Once more it
> > > started
> > > > > no problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
> > > wanting
> > > > > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Snow....93 XJ, 4.0, 95% stock and 80% new.
10-01-2003, 10:55 AM
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Re: Strange XJ behavior
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
news:qGmeb.2322$r.445909@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Nope no alarm.. if someone wanted to steal the XJ... well, they could have
> it....lol
Don't laugh. someone once stole my ratty-*** '86 XJ. Fortuately it was on a
bone-dry tank and was found about three miles away (gas station was 1.5 and I
knew this...). Cop said they tend to steal whatever's around when they're too
lazy to walk home.
What WAS a laugh was getting a call three weeks later from a police patrolman
claiming to have 'found' it... AGAIN. I ran like hell outside to make sure they
didn't tow the damn thing again. THAT was funny. I did worry they'd pull me
over in the middle of the night for months after that...
But it sounds like it's either corrosion inside the connectors (mine does this
all the damn time) or problems with the ignition switch wearing out (likewise
mine's doing this too). It could be the brake/transmission switch but that's
not likely to induce the 'no lights' scenario. One reason it would work is
trying to start it induced a small 'jump' throught the corrosion, not enough to
start. But enough to heat up the nearby stuff and make it expand. Thus it
worked the next time around.
Clean both sides of the battery cable connectors and retighten. Check the
ground strap too.
-Bill Kearney
10-01-2003, 10:55 AM
#29
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Re: Strange XJ behavior
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
news:qGmeb.2322$r.445909@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Nope no alarm.. if someone wanted to steal the XJ... well, they could have
> it....lol
Don't laugh. someone once stole my ratty-*** '86 XJ. Fortuately it was on a
bone-dry tank and was found about three miles away (gas station was 1.5 and I
knew this...). Cop said they tend to steal whatever's around when they're too
lazy to walk home.
What WAS a laugh was getting a call three weeks later from a police patrolman
claiming to have 'found' it... AGAIN. I ran like hell outside to make sure they
didn't tow the damn thing again. THAT was funny. I did worry they'd pull me
over in the middle of the night for months after that...
But it sounds like it's either corrosion inside the connectors (mine does this
all the damn time) or problems with the ignition switch wearing out (likewise
mine's doing this too). It could be the brake/transmission switch but that's
not likely to induce the 'no lights' scenario. One reason it would work is
trying to start it induced a small 'jump' throught the corrosion, not enough to
start. But enough to heat up the nearby stuff and make it expand. Thus it
worked the next time around.
Clean both sides of the battery cable connectors and retighten. Check the
ground strap too.
-Bill Kearney
10-01-2003, 02:49 PM
#30
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Re: Strange XJ behavior
Well I could have told you that.... I tell everyone the WIFE is NUTS...lol
just don't tell her.
Snow...
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3Yzeb.3822$_N1.3210@twister.austin.rr.com...
> "Snow" wrote ...
> > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
wanting
> > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
>
> Loose nut behind steering wheel? <grin>
>
>
just don't tell her.
Snow...
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3Yzeb.3822$_N1.3210@twister.austin.rr.com...
> "Snow" wrote ...
> > Wondering if anyone might have any ideas as to the cause of it not
wanting
> > to less then 5 minutes after the wife had turned it off?
>
> Loose nut behind steering wheel? <grin>
>
>