Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

But it sounds like you're repairing the starter, my Bronco's on
it's second free one form Kragen.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> LOL!
>
> Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> plain gone from the door sills down....
>
> Mike

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

But it sounds like you're repairing the starter, my Bronco's on
it's second free one form Kragen.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> LOL!
>
> Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> plain gone from the door sills down....
>
> Mike

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

Yes, the rotted wire actually is part of the brushes so I am just going
to put new brushes in it while it is open. They are fairly worn
anyway. The rest of the starter is good.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> But it sounds like you're repairing the starter, my Bronco's on
> it's second free one form Kragen.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> > because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> > plain gone from the door sills down....
> >
> > Mike

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

Yes, the rotted wire actually is part of the brushes so I am just going
to put new brushes in it while it is open. They are fairly worn
anyway. The rest of the starter is good.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> But it sounds like you're repairing the starter, my Bronco's on
> it's second free one form Kragen.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> > because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> > plain gone from the door sills down....
> >
> > Mike

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

Yes, the rotted wire actually is part of the brushes so I am just going
to put new brushes in it while it is open. They are fairly worn
anyway. The rest of the starter is good.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> But it sounds like you're repairing the starter, my Bronco's on
> it's second free one form Kragen.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> > because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> > plain gone from the door sills down....
> >
> > Mike

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

Yes, the rotted wire actually is part of the brushes so I am just going
to put new brushes in it while it is open. They are fairly worn
anyway. The rest of the starter is good.

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> But it sounds like you're repairing the starter, my Bronco's on
> it's second free one form Kragen.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> > because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> > plain gone from the door sills down....
> >
> > Mike

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

The old Scout I bought up in Wisconsin was like that - it was an
auction from the Dept. of Natural Resources they had beefed up to haul
snowmobiles. 9 leaf front springs, 7 rear, rode like a rock wagon.
Funny part was, the floors were all shot to hell but the frame and the
rest of the body was great. Only other rust was about halfway up the
side of the driver's side gas tank. I sure got some strange looks
when I lifted the body off in the carport of my place in Officers qtrs
at the Air Force Academy and proceded to use 2 full sheets of 16 ga.
cold roll and 5 gallons of roofing tar to replace the whole darned
floor plate. If someone tried that now they would probably have the
EPA, OSHA, and half a dozen other acronyms on their back within
minutes.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:33:35 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> LOL!
>
> Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> plain gone from the door sills down....
>
> Mike
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
> > forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
> > >
> > > The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> > > solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> > > on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> > > it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
> > >
> > > But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> > > some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
> > >
> > > So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> > > that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> > > starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
> > >
> > > I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> > > starter spins up just fine....
> > >
> > > I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> > > is needed like brushes while it's off.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the ideas folks.
> > >
> > > Man do I hate salt.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> > > >
> > > > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > > > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > > > it could start.
> > > >
> > > > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > > > push started it so I brought it home.
> > > >
> > > > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > > > the starter.
> > > >
> > > > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > > > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > > > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > > > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone got any guesses?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea


--
Will Honea

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

The old Scout I bought up in Wisconsin was like that - it was an
auction from the Dept. of Natural Resources they had beefed up to haul
snowmobiles. 9 leaf front springs, 7 rear, rode like a rock wagon.
Funny part was, the floors were all shot to hell but the frame and the
rest of the body was great. Only other rust was about halfway up the
side of the driver's side gas tank. I sure got some strange looks
when I lifted the body off in the carport of my place in Officers qtrs
at the Air Force Academy and proceded to use 2 full sheets of 16 ga.
cold roll and 5 gallons of roofing tar to replace the whole darned
floor plate. If someone tried that now they would probably have the
EPA, OSHA, and half a dozen other acronyms on their back within
minutes.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:33:35 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> LOL!
>
> Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> plain gone from the door sills down....
>
> Mike
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
> > forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
> > >
> > > The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> > > solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> > > on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> > > it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
> > >
> > > But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> > > some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
> > >
> > > So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> > > that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> > > starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
> > >
> > > I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> > > starter spins up just fine....
> > >
> > > I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> > > is needed like brushes while it's off.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the ideas folks.
> > >
> > > Man do I hate salt.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> > > >
> > > > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > > > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > > > it could start.
> > > >
> > > > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > > > push started it so I brought it home.
> > > >
> > > > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > > > the starter.
> > > >
> > > > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > > > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > > > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > > > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone got any guesses?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea


--
Will Honea

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

The old Scout I bought up in Wisconsin was like that - it was an
auction from the Dept. of Natural Resources they had beefed up to haul
snowmobiles. 9 leaf front springs, 7 rear, rode like a rock wagon.
Funny part was, the floors were all shot to hell but the frame and the
rest of the body was great. Only other rust was about halfway up the
side of the driver's side gas tank. I sure got some strange looks
when I lifted the body off in the carport of my place in Officers qtrs
at the Air Force Academy and proceded to use 2 full sheets of 16 ga.
cold roll and 5 gallons of roofing tar to replace the whole darned
floor plate. If someone tried that now they would probably have the
EPA, OSHA, and half a dozen other acronyms on their back within
minutes.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:33:35 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> LOL!
>
> Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> plain gone from the door sills down....
>
> Mike
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
> > forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
> > >
> > > The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> > > solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> > > on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> > > it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
> > >
> > > But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> > > some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
> > >
> > > So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> > > that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> > > starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
> > >
> > > I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> > > starter spins up just fine....
> > >
> > > I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> > > is needed like brushes while it's off.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the ideas folks.
> > >
> > > Man do I hate salt.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> > > >
> > > > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > > > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > > > it could start.
> > > >
> > > > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > > > push started it so I brought it home.
> > > >
> > > > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > > > the starter.
> > > >
> > > > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > > > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > > > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > > > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone got any guesses?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea


--
Will Honea

Re: Strange no start, 88 Cherokee. Update...
 

The old Scout I bought up in Wisconsin was like that - it was an
auction from the Dept. of Natural Resources they had beefed up to haul
snowmobiles. 9 leaf front springs, 7 rear, rode like a rock wagon.
Funny part was, the floors were all shot to hell but the frame and the
rest of the body was great. Only other rust was about halfway up the
side of the driver's side gas tank. I sure got some strange looks
when I lifted the body off in the carport of my place in Officers qtrs
at the Air Force Academy and proceded to use 2 full sheets of 16 ga.
cold roll and 5 gallons of roofing tar to replace the whole darned
floor plate. If someone tried that now they would probably have the
EPA, OSHA, and half a dozen other acronyms on their back within
minutes.

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:33:35 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> LOL!
>
> Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> plain gone from the door sills down....
>
> Mike
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
> > forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
> > >
> > > The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> > > solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> > > on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> > > it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
> > >
> > > But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> > > some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
> > >
> > > So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> > > that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> > > starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
> > >
> > > I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> > > starter spins up just fine....
> > >
> > > I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> > > is needed like brushes while it's off.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the ideas folks.
> > >
> > > Man do I hate salt.....
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> > > >
> > > > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > > > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > > > it could start.
> > > >
> > > > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > > > push started it so I brought it home.
> > > >
> > > > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > > > the starter.
> > > >
> > > > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > > > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > > > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > > > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone got any guesses?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea


--
Will Honea