You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?


On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
>
> The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
>
> But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
>
> So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
>
> I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> starter spins up just fine....
>
> I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> is needed like brushes while it's off.
>
> Thanks for the ideas folks.
>
> Man do I hate salt.....
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> >
> > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > it could start.
> >
> > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > push started it so I brought it home.
> >
> > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > the starter.
> >
> > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> >
> > Anyone got any guesses?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


--
Will Honea

 

You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?


On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
>
> The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
>
> But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
>
> So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
>
> I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> starter spins up just fine....
>
> I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> is needed like brushes while it's off.
>
> Thanks for the ideas folks.
>
> Man do I hate salt.....
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> >
> > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > it could start.
> >
> > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > push started it so I brought it home.
> >
> > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > the starter.
> >
> > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> >
> > Anyone got any guesses?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


--
Will Honea

 

You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?


On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
>
> The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
>
> But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
>
> So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
>
> I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> starter spins up just fine....
>
> I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> is needed like brushes while it's off.
>
> Thanks for the ideas folks.
>
> Man do I hate salt.....
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> >
> > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > it could start.
> >
> > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > push started it so I brought it home.
> >
> > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > the starter.
> >
> > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> >
> > Anyone got any guesses?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


--
Will Honea

 

You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?


On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
>
> The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
>
> But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
>
> So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
>
> I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> starter spins up just fine....
>
> I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> is needed like brushes while it's off.
>
> Thanks for the ideas folks.
>
> Man do I hate salt.....
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> >
> > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > it could start.
> >
> > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > push started it so I brought it home.
> >
> > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > the starter.
> >
> > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> >
> > Anyone got any guesses?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


--
Will Honea

 

LOL!

Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
plain gone from the door sills down....

Mike

Will Honea wrote:
>
> You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
> forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?
>
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
> >
> > The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> > solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> > on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> > it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
> >
> > But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> > some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
> >
> > So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> > that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> > starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
> >
> > I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> > starter spins up just fine....
> >
> > I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> > is needed like brushes while it's off.
> >
> > Thanks for the ideas folks.
> >
> > Man do I hate salt.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> > >
> > > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > > it could start.
> > >
> > > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > > push started it so I brought it home.
> > >
> > > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > > the starter.
> > >
> > > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> > >
> > > Anyone got any guesses?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

LOL!

Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
plain gone from the door sills down....

Mike

Will Honea wrote:
>
> You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
> forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?
>
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
> >
> > The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> > solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> > on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> > it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
> >
> > But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> > some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
> >
> > So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> > that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> > starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
> >
> > I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> > starter spins up just fine....
> >
> > I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> > is needed like brushes while it's off.
> >
> > Thanks for the ideas folks.
> >
> > Man do I hate salt.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> > >
> > > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > > it could start.
> > >
> > > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > > push started it so I brought it home.
> > >
> > > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > > the starter.
> > >
> > > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> > >
> > > Anyone got any guesses?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

LOL!

Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
plain gone from the door sills down....

Mike

Will Honea wrote:
>
> You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
> forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?
>
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
> >
> > The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> > solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> > on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> > it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
> >
> > But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> > some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
> >
> > So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> > that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> > starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
> >
> > I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> > starter spins up just fine....
> >
> > I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> > is needed like brushes while it's off.
> >
> > Thanks for the ideas folks.
> >
> > Man do I hate salt.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> > >
> > > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > > it could start.
> > >
> > > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > > push started it so I brought it home.
> > >
> > > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > > the starter.
> > >
> > > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> > >
> > > Anyone got any guesses?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

LOL!

Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
plain gone from the door sills down....

Mike

Will Honea wrote:
>
> You sure that's not the Newfie bogs still getting even with you? Ah!
> forgot, this is the XJ, not the CJ. Maybe it's catching?
>
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:07:46 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!
> >
> > The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
> > solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
> > on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
> > it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.
> >
> > But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
> > some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.
> >
> > So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
> > that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
> > starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....
> >
> > I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
> > starter spins up just fine....
> >
> > I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
> > is needed like brushes while it's off.
> >
> > Thanks for the ideas folks.
> >
> > Man do I hate salt.....
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> > >
> > > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > > it could start.
> > >
> > > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > > push started it so I brought it home.
> > >
> > > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > > the starter.
> > >
> > > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> > >
> > > Anyone got any guesses?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> --
> Will Honea

 

But it sounds like you're repairing the starter, my Bronco's on
it's second free one form Kragen.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> LOL!
>
> Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> plain gone from the door sills down....
>
> Mike

 

But it sounds like you're repairing the starter, my Bronco's on
it's second free one form Kragen.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> LOL!
>
> Salt all the way. The complete bottom of the Cherokee is about finished
> because of it. Well I guess finished isn't the right word, it's just
> plain gone from the door sills down....
>
> Mike