That big metal relay thing... Yup it will stop it from cranking just
like mine does..... or doesn't depending on which way you look at it.

Mike

Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Mike.
>
> Possibly the ignition switch? If you short the solenoid trigger to plus
> voltage does it crank? My son's 89 has a big metal covered start relay but I
> don't think it would cause it not to crank as I understand it.
>
> Joe R.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42545170.6B320D1F@sympatico.ca...
> > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> >
> > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > it could start.
> >
> > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > push started it so I brought it home.
> >
> > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > the starter.
> >
> > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> >
> > Anyone got any guesses?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

That big metal relay thing... Yup it will stop it from cranking just
like mine does..... or doesn't depending on which way you look at it.

Mike

Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Mike.
>
> Possibly the ignition switch? If you short the solenoid trigger to plus
> voltage does it crank? My son's 89 has a big metal covered start relay but I
> don't think it would cause it not to crank as I understand it.
>
> Joe R.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42545170.6B320D1F@sympatico.ca...
> > Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
> >
> > So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> > Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> > it could start.
> >
> > Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> > push started it so I brought it home.
> >
> > It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> > the starter.
> >
> > The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> > to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> > booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> > with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
> >
> > Anyone got any guesses?
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Maybe no 12 V to the ignition switch ... if accessories work then I'd say
that's not the problem. So next imo would be the lead from the ignition
switch to the starter relay. Since you've got no power at the starter relay
then must be either the ignition switch or the lead from it.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42545170.6B320D1F@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
>
> So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> it could start.
>
> Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> push started it so I brought it home.
>
> It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> the starter.
>
> The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
>
> Anyone got any guesses?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Maybe no 12 V to the ignition switch ... if accessories work then I'd say
that's not the problem. So next imo would be the lead from the ignition
switch to the starter relay. Since you've got no power at the starter relay
then must be either the ignition switch or the lead from it.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42545170.6B320D1F@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
>
> So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> it could start.
>
> Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> push started it so I brought it home.
>
> It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> the starter.
>
> The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
>
> Anyone got any guesses?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Maybe no 12 V to the ignition switch ... if accessories work then I'd say
that's not the problem. So next imo would be the lead from the ignition
switch to the starter relay. Since you've got no power at the starter relay
then must be either the ignition switch or the lead from it.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42545170.6B320D1F@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
>
> So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> it could start.
>
> Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> push started it so I brought it home.
>
> It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> the starter.
>
> The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
>
> Anyone got any guesses?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Maybe no 12 V to the ignition switch ... if accessories work then I'd say
that's not the problem. So next imo would be the lead from the ignition
switch to the starter relay. Since you've got no power at the starter relay
then must be either the ignition switch or the lead from it.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42545170.6B320D1F@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
>
> So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> it could start.
>
> Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> push started it so I brought it home.
>
> It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> the starter.
>
> The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
>
> Anyone got any guesses?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!

The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.

But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.

So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....

I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
starter spins up just fine....

I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
is needed like brushes while it's off.

Thanks for the ideas folks.

Man do I hate salt.....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
>
> So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> it could start.
>
> Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> push started it so I brought it home.
>
> It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> the starter.
>
> The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
>
> Anyone got any guesses?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!

The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.

But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.

So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....

I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
starter spins up just fine....

I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
is needed like brushes while it's off.

Thanks for the ideas folks.

Man do I hate salt.....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
>
> So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> it could start.
>
> Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> push started it so I brought it home.
>
> It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> the starter.
>
> The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
>
> Anyone got any guesses?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!

The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.

But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.

So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....

I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
starter spins up just fine....

I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
is needed like brushes while it's off.

Thanks for the ideas folks.

Man do I hate salt.....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
>
> So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> it could start.
>
> Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> push started it so I brought it home.
>
> It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> the starter.
>
> The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
>
> Anyone got any guesses?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Man do I hate salt, it eats everything!

The starter relay up by the battery doesn't put out to the starter
solenoid. It has input and really corroded rivets that hold the spades
on and one is arced. I am going to clean it and I inspected it inside,
it is good, I will solder the rivets to give it a good connection again.

But even then putting power to the starter solenoid trigger only gave me
some sparks, no starter turning... Grrr.

So my son pulls the starter out and we look at it and look and well,
that big copper mesh cable from the solenoid to the inside of the
starter has crystallized! It has literally crumbled to crumbs....

I used booster cables and got some power to it after the crumble and the
starter spins up just fine....

I am going to open it up to replace the cable and clean or refresh what
is needed like brushes while it's off.

Thanks for the ideas folks.

Man do I hate salt.....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ok, why do my Jeeps always come up with the strange problems???
>
> So my wife calls ands says she accidentally went to start our 88
> Cherokee in gear and it bumped to take off but she shut it down before
> it could start.
>
> Well, that was it, it is dead. I just had to go over to her work and we
> push started it so I brought it home.
>
> It has 12.39V in the battery and only drops a couple tenths when you try
> the starter.
>
> The starter solenoid is not getting power on the trigger wire according
> to my multimeter when the key is in start. I tried the grounds with
> booster cable, no joy, all the fuses seem fine, I played mix and match
> with all the relays near the battery, they appear fine.
>
> Anyone got any guesses?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's