Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
there somewhere.
If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
the fog lamps.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
>
> > Do you mean the fog lights?
> >
> > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> >
> > They just bolt right on.
>
> Where? Link to pic?
>
> My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
>
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the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
there somewhere.
If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
the fog lamps.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
>
> > Do you mean the fog lights?
> >
> > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> >
> > They just bolt right on.
>
> Where? Link to pic?
>
> My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
>
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#22
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
there somewhere.
If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
the fog lamps.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
news:moomesa-99D0EA.14490509112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
>
> > Do you mean the fog lights?
> >
> > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> >
> > They just bolt right on.
>
> Where? Link to pic?
>
> My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
>
> --
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the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
there somewhere.
If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
the fog lamps.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
>
> > Do you mean the fog lights?
> >
> > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> >
> > They just bolt right on.
>
> Where? Link to pic?
>
> My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
>
> --
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
On my CJ7 Laredo, the stock fogs are on top of the bumper straight in
front of each wheel. The YJ and TJ ones are in the same place from what
I can remember.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-99D0EA.14490509112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> > In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> > mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
> >
> > > Do you mean the fog lights?
> > >
> > > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> > >
> > > They just bolt right on.
> >
> > Where? Link to pic?
> >
> > My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> > the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> > in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> > holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> > there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> > top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> > have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> > I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> > simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
> >
> > --
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front of each wheel. The YJ and TJ ones are in the same place from what
I can remember.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-99D0EA.14490509112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> > In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> > mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
> >
> > > Do you mean the fog lights?
> > >
> > > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> > >
> > > They just bolt right on.
> >
> > Where? Link to pic?
> >
> > My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> > the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> > in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> > holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> > there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> > top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> > have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> > I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> > simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
> >
> > --
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
On my CJ7 Laredo, the stock fogs are on top of the bumper straight in
front of each wheel. The YJ and TJ ones are in the same place from what
I can remember.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-99D0EA.14490509112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> > In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> > mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
> >
> > > Do you mean the fog lights?
> > >
> > > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> > >
> > > They just bolt right on.
> >
> > Where? Link to pic?
> >
> > My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> > the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> > in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> > holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> > there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> > top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> > have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> > I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> > simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
> >
> > --
> > Member AAAAAAAA
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front of each wheel. The YJ and TJ ones are in the same place from what
I can remember.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-99D0EA.14490509112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> > In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> > mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
> >
> > > Do you mean the fog lights?
> > >
> > > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> > >
> > > They just bolt right on.
> >
> > Where? Link to pic?
> >
> > My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> > the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> > in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> > holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> > there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> > top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> > have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> > I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> > simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
> >
> > --
> > Member AAAAAAAA
> > American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
On my CJ7 Laredo, the stock fogs are on top of the bumper straight in
front of each wheel. The YJ and TJ ones are in the same place from what
I can remember.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-99D0EA.14490509112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> > In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> > mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
> >
> > > Do you mean the fog lights?
> > >
> > > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> > >
> > > They just bolt right on.
> >
> > Where? Link to pic?
> >
> > My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> > the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> > in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> > holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> > there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> > top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> > have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> > I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> > simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
> >
> > --
> > Member AAAAAAAA
> > American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.
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front of each wheel. The YJ and TJ ones are in the same place from what
I can remember.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
>
> "Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
> news:moomesa-99D0EA.14490509112004@news-east.newsfeeds.com...
> > In article <20041109153541.08086.00000455@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> > mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote:
> >
> > > Do you mean the fog lights?
> > >
> > > If so, you can get the OEM brackets from your dealer for about $8.
> > >
> > > They just bolt right on.
> >
> > Where? Link to pic?
> >
> > My wife wants some off road lamps on the bumper, she wants 'em "where
> > the stock ones were". I explained it to her, but she wants them "to be
> > in the right place". I explained all I have to do was drill a couple of
> > holes and mount them. She doesn't like that (don't ask, just don't go
> > there). I explained I could tack weld a couple of tabs on from under the
> > top of the bumper, she almost went for it until I said it'll probably
> > have to be repainted from the heat. She likes the windshield mounts but
> > I've had them there and don't like the glare off the hood. These are
> > simple stainless daylighters, but she wants 'em "just so".
> >
> > --
> > Member AAAAAAAA
> > American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
See what they look like at
http://members.aol.com/mark12211/moreinfo.html
I used the bumper extensions sold by the Jeep dealer, they are much better
material than the ones you find in the catalogs. I also used the fog light
brackets sold by the Jeep dealer. I got the fog lights from Wal*Mart but they
look factory.
The brackets just get screwed on behind the bumper extensions. If you don't
have bumper extensions you will see 2 holes in the middle of your bumper
towards the ends on both sides. The fog light brackets are just held on by the
wings nuts that hold the bumper extensions on.
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
See what they look like at
http://members.aol.com/mark12211/moreinfo.html
I used the bumper extensions sold by the Jeep dealer, they are much better
material than the ones you find in the catalogs. I also used the fog light
brackets sold by the Jeep dealer. I got the fog lights from Wal*Mart but they
look factory.
The brackets just get screwed on behind the bumper extensions. If you don't
have bumper extensions you will see 2 holes in the middle of your bumper
towards the ends on both sides. The fog light brackets are just held on by the
wings nuts that hold the bumper extensions on.
#28
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
See what they look like at
http://members.aol.com/mark12211/moreinfo.html
I used the bumper extensions sold by the Jeep dealer, they are much better
material than the ones you find in the catalogs. I also used the fog light
brackets sold by the Jeep dealer. I got the fog lights from Wal*Mart but they
look factory.
The brackets just get screwed on behind the bumper extensions. If you don't
have bumper extensions you will see 2 holes in the middle of your bumper
towards the ends on both sides. The fog light brackets are just held on by the
wings nuts that hold the bumper extensions on.
#29
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
In article <10p2p2c3q96sc25@corp.supernews.com>,
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
No holes exist. Thats what I figured there would be, but no. Drilling
looks to be the way to go.
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"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
No holes exist. Thats what I figured there would be, but no. Drilling
looks to be the way to go.
--
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Re: Stock location of JY Offroad lamps?
In article <10p2p2c3q96sc25@corp.supernews.com>,
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
No holes exist. Thats what I figured there would be, but no. Drilling
looks to be the way to go.
--
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"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
> After reading your other posts, it seems to me the issue is, where to drill
> the holes. My CJ never had factory fog lamps, so I need to drill holes, but
> the YJs had a factory option for fog lamps, so the holes should already be
> there somewhere.
>
> If you have two holes that are equidistant from the center and set back from
> the bumper, or forward from the grill all the same, these are the holes for
> the fog lamps.
No holes exist. Thats what I figured there would be, but no. Drilling
looks to be the way to go.
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