stock engine and large tires
01-02-2006, 10:10 PM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
Hmm, I mean if I was wanting to go for, say 44 inch boggers on my TJ like
I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the
engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that
low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.
Troy
I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the
engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that
low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.
Troy
01-02-2006, 10:10 PM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
Hmm, I mean if I was wanting to go for, say 44 inch boggers on my TJ like
I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the
engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that
low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.
Troy
I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the
engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that
low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.
Troy
01-02-2006, 10:10 PM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
Hmm, I mean if I was wanting to go for, say 44 inch boggers on my TJ like
I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the
engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that
low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.
Troy
I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the
engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that
low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.
Troy
01-03-2006, 01:20 AM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
If you ever do any four wheelin', take a camera with you.
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reconair wrote:
>
> Now Bill, you should have prefaced your answer with a "IMHO". Yes, you have
> pictures to show why it may not be a good idea. Nonetheless, I contend that
> you can run up to at least 33X12.5 tires on a 4" lifted Wrangler equipped
> with a 4.0L and Dana 35 axle provided the vehicle is appropriately geared
> for the larger tire (4.11-4.56) and the driver handles the rig on the trail
> with care. My evidence is that I've had 33X12.5 tires on my 91YJ since new
> and have yet to break an axle. This is with the stock driveline and a 4"
> lift. IMHO, I believe that the preponderance of broken 35 axles were the
> result of driver error and not the fault of the equipment. Slow and
> deliberate with a front locker and rear LS seem to be the best combination.
> I fear that most of the broken 35s we've seen are the result of a rearend
> install of a full locker and, or the driver trying to do something more than
> his rig was capable of. MY YJ does its share of 3-4 plus rated trails in
> rocks, mud and sand and has yet to bust an axle.
>
> Jus my two pennys.
> Scott
> 91YJ
> 2000 F-150 4x4
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reconair wrote:
>
> Now Bill, you should have prefaced your answer with a "IMHO". Yes, you have
> pictures to show why it may not be a good idea. Nonetheless, I contend that
> you can run up to at least 33X12.5 tires on a 4" lifted Wrangler equipped
> with a 4.0L and Dana 35 axle provided the vehicle is appropriately geared
> for the larger tire (4.11-4.56) and the driver handles the rig on the trail
> with care. My evidence is that I've had 33X12.5 tires on my 91YJ since new
> and have yet to break an axle. This is with the stock driveline and a 4"
> lift. IMHO, I believe that the preponderance of broken 35 axles were the
> result of driver error and not the fault of the equipment. Slow and
> deliberate with a front locker and rear LS seem to be the best combination.
> I fear that most of the broken 35s we've seen are the result of a rearend
> install of a full locker and, or the driver trying to do something more than
> his rig was capable of. MY YJ does its share of 3-4 plus rated trails in
> rocks, mud and sand and has yet to bust an axle.
>
> Jus my two pennys.
> Scott
> 91YJ
> 2000 F-150 4x4
01-03-2006, 01:20 AM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
If you ever do any four wheelin', take a camera with you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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reconair wrote:
>
> Now Bill, you should have prefaced your answer with a "IMHO". Yes, you have
> pictures to show why it may not be a good idea. Nonetheless, I contend that
> you can run up to at least 33X12.5 tires on a 4" lifted Wrangler equipped
> with a 4.0L and Dana 35 axle provided the vehicle is appropriately geared
> for the larger tire (4.11-4.56) and the driver handles the rig on the trail
> with care. My evidence is that I've had 33X12.5 tires on my 91YJ since new
> and have yet to break an axle. This is with the stock driveline and a 4"
> lift. IMHO, I believe that the preponderance of broken 35 axles were the
> result of driver error and not the fault of the equipment. Slow and
> deliberate with a front locker and rear LS seem to be the best combination.
> I fear that most of the broken 35s we've seen are the result of a rearend
> install of a full locker and, or the driver trying to do something more than
> his rig was capable of. MY YJ does its share of 3-4 plus rated trails in
> rocks, mud and sand and has yet to bust an axle.
>
> Jus my two pennys.
> Scott
> 91YJ
> 2000 F-150 4x4
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
reconair wrote:
>
> Now Bill, you should have prefaced your answer with a "IMHO". Yes, you have
> pictures to show why it may not be a good idea. Nonetheless, I contend that
> you can run up to at least 33X12.5 tires on a 4" lifted Wrangler equipped
> with a 4.0L and Dana 35 axle provided the vehicle is appropriately geared
> for the larger tire (4.11-4.56) and the driver handles the rig on the trail
> with care. My evidence is that I've had 33X12.5 tires on my 91YJ since new
> and have yet to break an axle. This is with the stock driveline and a 4"
> lift. IMHO, I believe that the preponderance of broken 35 axles were the
> result of driver error and not the fault of the equipment. Slow and
> deliberate with a front locker and rear LS seem to be the best combination.
> I fear that most of the broken 35s we've seen are the result of a rearend
> install of a full locker and, or the driver trying to do something more than
> his rig was capable of. MY YJ does its share of 3-4 plus rated trails in
> rocks, mud and sand and has yet to bust an axle.
>
> Jus my two pennys.
> Scott
> 91YJ
> 2000 F-150 4x4
01-03-2006, 01:20 AM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
If you ever do any four wheelin', take a camera with you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
reconair wrote:
>
> Now Bill, you should have prefaced your answer with a "IMHO". Yes, you have
> pictures to show why it may not be a good idea. Nonetheless, I contend that
> you can run up to at least 33X12.5 tires on a 4" lifted Wrangler equipped
> with a 4.0L and Dana 35 axle provided the vehicle is appropriately geared
> for the larger tire (4.11-4.56) and the driver handles the rig on the trail
> with care. My evidence is that I've had 33X12.5 tires on my 91YJ since new
> and have yet to break an axle. This is with the stock driveline and a 4"
> lift. IMHO, I believe that the preponderance of broken 35 axles were the
> result of driver error and not the fault of the equipment. Slow and
> deliberate with a front locker and rear LS seem to be the best combination.
> I fear that most of the broken 35s we've seen are the result of a rearend
> install of a full locker and, or the driver trying to do something more than
> his rig was capable of. MY YJ does its share of 3-4 plus rated trails in
> rocks, mud and sand and has yet to bust an axle.
>
> Jus my two pennys.
> Scott
> 91YJ
> 2000 F-150 4x4
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
reconair wrote:
>
> Now Bill, you should have prefaced your answer with a "IMHO". Yes, you have
> pictures to show why it may not be a good idea. Nonetheless, I contend that
> you can run up to at least 33X12.5 tires on a 4" lifted Wrangler equipped
> with a 4.0L and Dana 35 axle provided the vehicle is appropriately geared
> for the larger tire (4.11-4.56) and the driver handles the rig on the trail
> with care. My evidence is that I've had 33X12.5 tires on my 91YJ since new
> and have yet to break an axle. This is with the stock driveline and a 4"
> lift. IMHO, I believe that the preponderance of broken 35 axles were the
> result of driver error and not the fault of the equipment. Slow and
> deliberate with a front locker and rear LS seem to be the best combination.
> I fear that most of the broken 35s we've seen are the result of a rearend
> install of a full locker and, or the driver trying to do something more than
> his rig was capable of. MY YJ does its share of 3-4 plus rated trails in
> rocks, mud and sand and has yet to bust an axle.
>
> Jus my two pennys.
> Scott
> 91YJ
> 2000 F-150 4x4
01-03-2006, 01:21 AM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
If you ever do any four wheelin', take a camera with you.
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Jim Smith wrote:
>
> So I guess the 3 million Wranglers with 31 inch tires are all wrong! With a
> 2-3 inch body lift, you can easily fit 33 inch tires. The Dana 35 and 30
> can easily handle the added height and weight. Again you show your
> ignorance Bill.
>
> Do you honestly believe some of the crap you feed these people on this
> newsgroup?
>
> The Dana 35 may not handle a 35 inch tire, but then again, which
> manufacturer are you talking about. Just because a tire manufacturer calls
> their tire a 35 inch doesn't mean the actual tire height is as advertised.
> But I guess you knew that didn't ya Bill?
>
> Troy, look for a good Jeep related web page. Search around. You will see
> that until you get to the 35 inch tire, the only factor limiting the tire
> size on a Jeep Wrangler is the Fender opening. I don't recommend a body
> lift for many reasons, but if that's what you want, then go for it. Like I
> said earlier, I know of many Wranglers with 31-33 inch tires on stock
> differentials. I have 31 inch tires on my daughters Wrangler (Pro Comp
> X-Terrains) which measure a true 31 inches.
>
> Good Luck Troy
>
> Be careful who you get your information from. Make sure they know more then
> "I'm waiting".
> Jim Smith
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Jim Smith wrote:
>
> So I guess the 3 million Wranglers with 31 inch tires are all wrong! With a
> 2-3 inch body lift, you can easily fit 33 inch tires. The Dana 35 and 30
> can easily handle the added height and weight. Again you show your
> ignorance Bill.
>
> Do you honestly believe some of the crap you feed these people on this
> newsgroup?
>
> The Dana 35 may not handle a 35 inch tire, but then again, which
> manufacturer are you talking about. Just because a tire manufacturer calls
> their tire a 35 inch doesn't mean the actual tire height is as advertised.
> But I guess you knew that didn't ya Bill?
>
> Troy, look for a good Jeep related web page. Search around. You will see
> that until you get to the 35 inch tire, the only factor limiting the tire
> size on a Jeep Wrangler is the Fender opening. I don't recommend a body
> lift for many reasons, but if that's what you want, then go for it. Like I
> said earlier, I know of many Wranglers with 31-33 inch tires on stock
> differentials. I have 31 inch tires on my daughters Wrangler (Pro Comp
> X-Terrains) which measure a true 31 inches.
>
> Good Luck Troy
>
> Be careful who you get your information from. Make sure they know more then
> "I'm waiting".
> Jim Smith
01-03-2006, 01:21 AM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
If you ever do any four wheelin', take a camera with you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jim Smith wrote:
>
> So I guess the 3 million Wranglers with 31 inch tires are all wrong! With a
> 2-3 inch body lift, you can easily fit 33 inch tires. The Dana 35 and 30
> can easily handle the added height and weight. Again you show your
> ignorance Bill.
>
> Do you honestly believe some of the crap you feed these people on this
> newsgroup?
>
> The Dana 35 may not handle a 35 inch tire, but then again, which
> manufacturer are you talking about. Just because a tire manufacturer calls
> their tire a 35 inch doesn't mean the actual tire height is as advertised.
> But I guess you knew that didn't ya Bill?
>
> Troy, look for a good Jeep related web page. Search around. You will see
> that until you get to the 35 inch tire, the only factor limiting the tire
> size on a Jeep Wrangler is the Fender opening. I don't recommend a body
> lift for many reasons, but if that's what you want, then go for it. Like I
> said earlier, I know of many Wranglers with 31-33 inch tires on stock
> differentials. I have 31 inch tires on my daughters Wrangler (Pro Comp
> X-Terrains) which measure a true 31 inches.
>
> Good Luck Troy
>
> Be careful who you get your information from. Make sure they know more then
> "I'm waiting".
> Jim Smith
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jim Smith wrote:
>
> So I guess the 3 million Wranglers with 31 inch tires are all wrong! With a
> 2-3 inch body lift, you can easily fit 33 inch tires. The Dana 35 and 30
> can easily handle the added height and weight. Again you show your
> ignorance Bill.
>
> Do you honestly believe some of the crap you feed these people on this
> newsgroup?
>
> The Dana 35 may not handle a 35 inch tire, but then again, which
> manufacturer are you talking about. Just because a tire manufacturer calls
> their tire a 35 inch doesn't mean the actual tire height is as advertised.
> But I guess you knew that didn't ya Bill?
>
> Troy, look for a good Jeep related web page. Search around. You will see
> that until you get to the 35 inch tire, the only factor limiting the tire
> size on a Jeep Wrangler is the Fender opening. I don't recommend a body
> lift for many reasons, but if that's what you want, then go for it. Like I
> said earlier, I know of many Wranglers with 31-33 inch tires on stock
> differentials. I have 31 inch tires on my daughters Wrangler (Pro Comp
> X-Terrains) which measure a true 31 inches.
>
> Good Luck Troy
>
> Be careful who you get your information from. Make sure they know more then
> "I'm waiting".
> Jim Smith
01-03-2006, 01:21 AM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
If you ever do any four wheelin', take a camera with you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jim Smith wrote:
>
> So I guess the 3 million Wranglers with 31 inch tires are all wrong! With a
> 2-3 inch body lift, you can easily fit 33 inch tires. The Dana 35 and 30
> can easily handle the added height and weight. Again you show your
> ignorance Bill.
>
> Do you honestly believe some of the crap you feed these people on this
> newsgroup?
>
> The Dana 35 may not handle a 35 inch tire, but then again, which
> manufacturer are you talking about. Just because a tire manufacturer calls
> their tire a 35 inch doesn't mean the actual tire height is as advertised.
> But I guess you knew that didn't ya Bill?
>
> Troy, look for a good Jeep related web page. Search around. You will see
> that until you get to the 35 inch tire, the only factor limiting the tire
> size on a Jeep Wrangler is the Fender opening. I don't recommend a body
> lift for many reasons, but if that's what you want, then go for it. Like I
> said earlier, I know of many Wranglers with 31-33 inch tires on stock
> differentials. I have 31 inch tires on my daughters Wrangler (Pro Comp
> X-Terrains) which measure a true 31 inches.
>
> Good Luck Troy
>
> Be careful who you get your information from. Make sure they know more then
> "I'm waiting".
> Jim Smith
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jim Smith wrote:
>
> So I guess the 3 million Wranglers with 31 inch tires are all wrong! With a
> 2-3 inch body lift, you can easily fit 33 inch tires. The Dana 35 and 30
> can easily handle the added height and weight. Again you show your
> ignorance Bill.
>
> Do you honestly believe some of the crap you feed these people on this
> newsgroup?
>
> The Dana 35 may not handle a 35 inch tire, but then again, which
> manufacturer are you talking about. Just because a tire manufacturer calls
> their tire a 35 inch doesn't mean the actual tire height is as advertised.
> But I guess you knew that didn't ya Bill?
>
> Troy, look for a good Jeep related web page. Search around. You will see
> that until you get to the 35 inch tire, the only factor limiting the tire
> size on a Jeep Wrangler is the Fender opening. I don't recommend a body
> lift for many reasons, but if that's what you want, then go for it. Like I
> said earlier, I know of many Wranglers with 31-33 inch tires on stock
> differentials. I have 31 inch tires on my daughters Wrangler (Pro Comp
> X-Terrains) which measure a true 31 inches.
>
> Good Luck Troy
>
> Be careful who you get your information from. Make sure they know more then
> "I'm waiting".
> Jim Smith
01-03-2006, 01:27 AM
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Re: stock engine and large tires
Maybe with a leaf spring conversion, and Rockwells:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/465730
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Troy wrote:
>
> Hmm, I mean if I was wanting to go for, say 44 inch boggers on my TJ like
> I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the
> engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that
> low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.
>
> Troy
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/465730
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Troy wrote:
>
> Hmm, I mean if I was wanting to go for, say 44 inch boggers on my TJ like
> I've seen out there, but wanted to keep the I6 engine in it? Would the
> engine be able to push 44's reasonably if the axles could be geared that
> low? All jeeps I've seen so far have v8s in them for that.
>
> Troy