still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
Whining again.
I am still at a dilmma what to do with the soft doors and windows once removed for the summer. If you dont remove them, you sweat big time in the canvas coffin. 80+ degrees is nasty in there. We have had storms everyday the last three weeks here. If I take the top down, windows out and door tops off, what do I do if it rains WHILE AT WORK or at WALMART ? Weather has changed here every few hours in some cases. I can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off because there is no way to secure them. If I leave them out, I have been told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet because it will smell mildewy" what the heck is the sense of making an "all durable" Jeep with a "delicate" dash..? How do you prevent the dash from getting wet ? many said... remove the carpet and let it rain in there all you want.. I don't want to remove the carpet.. how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
What I do during the hot summer months,
is to leave the soft roof up with no doors and windows except the rear window, this acts as shade and when it rains it keeps a lot of the water out. The rear window keeps a lot of the backwash out when driving in the rain. I also have a large plastic bag to cover my seat. I also removed the carpets. When expecting rain, I park at work with the windshield facing the approaching weather. I bring a rain suit just in case. I don't whine :-) been doing this with my Jeeps for the last 15 years. If you don't want to remove the carpets I guess you should've got air conditioning and a hardtop. Cheers dave wrote: > Whining again. > > I am still at a dilmma what to do with the soft doors and windows once > removed for the summer. If you dont remove them, you sweat big time in the > canvas coffin. 80+ degrees is nasty in there. > > We have had storms everyday the last three weeks here. If I take the top > down, windows out and door tops off, what do I do if it rains WHILE AT WORK > or at WALMART ? Weather has changed here every few hours in some cases. I > can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off > because there is no way to secure them. If I leave them out, I have been > told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet > because it will smell mildewy" > > what the heck is the sense of making an "all durable" Jeep with a "delicate" > dash..? How do you prevent the dash from getting wet ? > > many said... remove the carpet and let it rain in there all you want.. I > don't want to remove the carpet.. > > how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? > > |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
What I do during the hot summer months,
is to leave the soft roof up with no doors and windows except the rear window, this acts as shade and when it rains it keeps a lot of the water out. The rear window keeps a lot of the backwash out when driving in the rain. I also have a large plastic bag to cover my seat. I also removed the carpets. When expecting rain, I park at work with the windshield facing the approaching weather. I bring a rain suit just in case. I don't whine :-) been doing this with my Jeeps for the last 15 years. If you don't want to remove the carpets I guess you should've got air conditioning and a hardtop. Cheers dave wrote: > Whining again. > > I am still at a dilmma what to do with the soft doors and windows once > removed for the summer. If you dont remove them, you sweat big time in the > canvas coffin. 80+ degrees is nasty in there. > > We have had storms everyday the last three weeks here. If I take the top > down, windows out and door tops off, what do I do if it rains WHILE AT WORK > or at WALMART ? Weather has changed here every few hours in some cases. I > can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off > because there is no way to secure them. If I leave them out, I have been > told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet > because it will smell mildewy" > > what the heck is the sense of making an "all durable" Jeep with a "delicate" > dash..? How do you prevent the dash from getting wet ? > > many said... remove the carpet and let it rain in there all you want.. I > don't want to remove the carpet.. > > how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? > > |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
What I do during the hot summer months,
is to leave the soft roof up with no doors and windows except the rear window, this acts as shade and when it rains it keeps a lot of the water out. The rear window keeps a lot of the backwash out when driving in the rain. I also have a large plastic bag to cover my seat. I also removed the carpets. When expecting rain, I park at work with the windshield facing the approaching weather. I bring a rain suit just in case. I don't whine :-) been doing this with my Jeeps for the last 15 years. If you don't want to remove the carpets I guess you should've got air conditioning and a hardtop. Cheers dave wrote: > Whining again. > > I am still at a dilmma what to do with the soft doors and windows once > removed for the summer. If you dont remove them, you sweat big time in the > canvas coffin. 80+ degrees is nasty in there. > > We have had storms everyday the last three weeks here. If I take the top > down, windows out and door tops off, what do I do if it rains WHILE AT WORK > or at WALMART ? Weather has changed here every few hours in some cases. I > can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off > because there is no way to secure them. If I leave them out, I have been > told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet > because it will smell mildewy" > > what the heck is the sense of making an "all durable" Jeep with a "delicate" > dash..? How do you prevent the dash from getting wet ? > > many said... remove the carpet and let it rain in there all you want.. I > don't want to remove the carpet.. > > how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? > > |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
What I do during the hot summer months,
is to leave the soft roof up with no doors and windows except the rear window, this acts as shade and when it rains it keeps a lot of the water out. The rear window keeps a lot of the backwash out when driving in the rain. I also have a large plastic bag to cover my seat. I also removed the carpets. When expecting rain, I park at work with the windshield facing the approaching weather. I bring a rain suit just in case. I don't whine :-) been doing this with my Jeeps for the last 15 years. If you don't want to remove the carpets I guess you should've got air conditioning and a hardtop. Cheers dave wrote: > Whining again. > > I am still at a dilmma what to do with the soft doors and windows once > removed for the summer. If you dont remove them, you sweat big time in the > canvas coffin. 80+ degrees is nasty in there. > > We have had storms everyday the last three weeks here. If I take the top > down, windows out and door tops off, what do I do if it rains WHILE AT WORK > or at WALMART ? Weather has changed here every few hours in some cases. I > can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off > because there is no way to secure them. If I leave them out, I have been > told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet > because it will smell mildewy" > > what the heck is the sense of making an "all durable" Jeep with a "delicate" > dash..? How do you prevent the dash from getting wet ? > > many said... remove the carpet and let it rain in there all you want.. I > don't want to remove the carpet.. > > how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? > > |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
> I can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off > because there is no way to secure them. They're no more secured when the top is up are they? In Ohio, and also suffer from the if you do/don't like the weather, just wait 10 minutes problem you mention. When I put the top down I roll up the rear window and do not remove it. I put the rear side windows on top of the back half of the top. Then when I pull the top back (aka "down") I make sure they all fold/roll as to avoid any really nasty folding and mostly somewhat "roll". Then I take the top half doors and put them just behind the rear seat (ie between the seat back and the wad of rolled up top/windows. I set them so that the posts that go into the doors are facing each other so they don't poke the back of the rear seat passengers heads (should I have them). Yes, my windows are "somewhat" (pronounced "alot") scratched up. I gave up on pristine windows pretty early. Plastic cleaner/descratcher does seem to work pretty good about once a year or so to resotore a lot of the visilibity. The plastic "door frames" go behind the rear seat also (in the trunk, so to speak). If I have rear seat passengers I stop at this point. Otherwise then I remove the doors and set them on the rear seat so that the mirrors are near the back roll bar (where the seatbelts are) and use some velcro straps to secure some portion of the mirror assembly to the back roll bar. Recently I've been setting them so that the "latch end" is down in the rear seat footwell, and the hinge end is towards the back. This front/back way seems to work better then trying to put them left and right. I've long since lost the nuts that are supposed to go on the bottom of the doors. For a while I was using a wrench I kept in the glove box, then my fingers, and now I just leave them off and can't rember where I put them. > If I leave them out, I have been > told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet > because it will smell mildewy" I got the dash soaked a few times. Twice bad enough that some of the gauges were a little weird. After about 3 days though, all was fine again, except for the CD player. I've learned to be real careful with that. Both of these times was when I took a hose to the dash to get off all the mud. Mud running in a convertible is a pain to clean up. I did have to drill the missing drain hole in the passenger side back seat footwell. I noticed at an auto show sometime after '99 they musta fixed that defect... If I leave PePe (yes, I named my jeep, but that's another thread...) all closed up (like neither she no I like her to be) she does start to smell a little (or a lot) like a wet dog. Thus I just leave a window open when I park in my garage (or the door open if I've got that good old #4 fuse pulled, obviously not a problem if the top is down) > how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? That's my deal. Never had any parts stolen, your mileage may vary. Not the lowest crime rate where I am, not the highest either. I guess you could have a bicycle cable lock or something you run through the door handles if you are worried about them. With the other parts hidden "inside the top" I doubt anyone would go to the trouble to remove those parts (it's easiest to just put the top up to get them out!) If it's going to rain while I'm at work, I put it all up, or watch very close out the window to see if it really does look like rain. Yes, a few times I have had to put the top up will it was pouring. One time I even had to change clothes at work when I was done. Good thing I'm a geek engineer and can wear just about anything legal while at work! I drive 24ish miles (each way) to work, with a garage at home, so it is fairly common to put the top down on the way home, park in the garage with the top down, drive to work, and then put the top up. Yes, I do mean put the top down on the way home. Usually about 3 or 4 red lights is all it takes for the top and half-door tops. Sometimes doing this I just toss the rear side windows into back. Did I mention I really like to have the top down? I carry a windbreaker (easier/funner to just don a jacket than put the top up when the sun goes down in spring/fall), so sometimes I put the jacket on the seat (for rainprojection) and fold both front seats forward. Thus the seats are somewhat sheilded from the rain, as is the dash (though not the CD player!). Perhaps I should get a marine grade CD player... (or duct tape!) alan "99 TJ with 110,000 miles" curtis PS As for mirrors without doors, I got two suction cup mirrors (2" x 4") that I stuck to the top outside corners of the windshield. Never been hassled for this, then again never pulled over for other reasons while doorless either, so who knows what might happen once I "come into the spotlight" for other reasons and don't have "official side mirrors". I think any claim that a jeep with no top and no doors has "reduced visibilty" is nuts, however. |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
> I can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off > because there is no way to secure them. They're no more secured when the top is up are they? In Ohio, and also suffer from the if you do/don't like the weather, just wait 10 minutes problem you mention. When I put the top down I roll up the rear window and do not remove it. I put the rear side windows on top of the back half of the top. Then when I pull the top back (aka "down") I make sure they all fold/roll as to avoid any really nasty folding and mostly somewhat "roll". Then I take the top half doors and put them just behind the rear seat (ie between the seat back and the wad of rolled up top/windows. I set them so that the posts that go into the doors are facing each other so they don't poke the back of the rear seat passengers heads (should I have them). Yes, my windows are "somewhat" (pronounced "alot") scratched up. I gave up on pristine windows pretty early. Plastic cleaner/descratcher does seem to work pretty good about once a year or so to resotore a lot of the visilibity. The plastic "door frames" go behind the rear seat also (in the trunk, so to speak). If I have rear seat passengers I stop at this point. Otherwise then I remove the doors and set them on the rear seat so that the mirrors are near the back roll bar (where the seatbelts are) and use some velcro straps to secure some portion of the mirror assembly to the back roll bar. Recently I've been setting them so that the "latch end" is down in the rear seat footwell, and the hinge end is towards the back. This front/back way seems to work better then trying to put them left and right. I've long since lost the nuts that are supposed to go on the bottom of the doors. For a while I was using a wrench I kept in the glove box, then my fingers, and now I just leave them off and can't rember where I put them. > If I leave them out, I have been > told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet > because it will smell mildewy" I got the dash soaked a few times. Twice bad enough that some of the gauges were a little weird. After about 3 days though, all was fine again, except for the CD player. I've learned to be real careful with that. Both of these times was when I took a hose to the dash to get off all the mud. Mud running in a convertible is a pain to clean up. I did have to drill the missing drain hole in the passenger side back seat footwell. I noticed at an auto show sometime after '99 they musta fixed that defect... If I leave PePe (yes, I named my jeep, but that's another thread...) all closed up (like neither she no I like her to be) she does start to smell a little (or a lot) like a wet dog. Thus I just leave a window open when I park in my garage (or the door open if I've got that good old #4 fuse pulled, obviously not a problem if the top is down) > how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? That's my deal. Never had any parts stolen, your mileage may vary. Not the lowest crime rate where I am, not the highest either. I guess you could have a bicycle cable lock or something you run through the door handles if you are worried about them. With the other parts hidden "inside the top" I doubt anyone would go to the trouble to remove those parts (it's easiest to just put the top up to get them out!) If it's going to rain while I'm at work, I put it all up, or watch very close out the window to see if it really does look like rain. Yes, a few times I have had to put the top up will it was pouring. One time I even had to change clothes at work when I was done. Good thing I'm a geek engineer and can wear just about anything legal while at work! I drive 24ish miles (each way) to work, with a garage at home, so it is fairly common to put the top down on the way home, park in the garage with the top down, drive to work, and then put the top up. Yes, I do mean put the top down on the way home. Usually about 3 or 4 red lights is all it takes for the top and half-door tops. Sometimes doing this I just toss the rear side windows into back. Did I mention I really like to have the top down? I carry a windbreaker (easier/funner to just don a jacket than put the top up when the sun goes down in spring/fall), so sometimes I put the jacket on the seat (for rainprojection) and fold both front seats forward. Thus the seats are somewhat sheilded from the rain, as is the dash (though not the CD player!). Perhaps I should get a marine grade CD player... (or duct tape!) alan "99 TJ with 110,000 miles" curtis PS As for mirrors without doors, I got two suction cup mirrors (2" x 4") that I stuck to the top outside corners of the windshield. Never been hassled for this, then again never pulled over for other reasons while doorless either, so who knows what might happen once I "come into the spotlight" for other reasons and don't have "official side mirrors". I think any claim that a jeep with no top and no doors has "reduced visibilty" is nuts, however. |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
> I can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off > because there is no way to secure them. They're no more secured when the top is up are they? In Ohio, and also suffer from the if you do/don't like the weather, just wait 10 minutes problem you mention. When I put the top down I roll up the rear window and do not remove it. I put the rear side windows on top of the back half of the top. Then when I pull the top back (aka "down") I make sure they all fold/roll as to avoid any really nasty folding and mostly somewhat "roll". Then I take the top half doors and put them just behind the rear seat (ie between the seat back and the wad of rolled up top/windows. I set them so that the posts that go into the doors are facing each other so they don't poke the back of the rear seat passengers heads (should I have them). Yes, my windows are "somewhat" (pronounced "alot") scratched up. I gave up on pristine windows pretty early. Plastic cleaner/descratcher does seem to work pretty good about once a year or so to resotore a lot of the visilibity. The plastic "door frames" go behind the rear seat also (in the trunk, so to speak). If I have rear seat passengers I stop at this point. Otherwise then I remove the doors and set them on the rear seat so that the mirrors are near the back roll bar (where the seatbelts are) and use some velcro straps to secure some portion of the mirror assembly to the back roll bar. Recently I've been setting them so that the "latch end" is down in the rear seat footwell, and the hinge end is towards the back. This front/back way seems to work better then trying to put them left and right. I've long since lost the nuts that are supposed to go on the bottom of the doors. For a while I was using a wrench I kept in the glove box, then my fingers, and now I just leave them off and can't rember where I put them. > If I leave them out, I have been > told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet > because it will smell mildewy" I got the dash soaked a few times. Twice bad enough that some of the gauges were a little weird. After about 3 days though, all was fine again, except for the CD player. I've learned to be real careful with that. Both of these times was when I took a hose to the dash to get off all the mud. Mud running in a convertible is a pain to clean up. I did have to drill the missing drain hole in the passenger side back seat footwell. I noticed at an auto show sometime after '99 they musta fixed that defect... If I leave PePe (yes, I named my jeep, but that's another thread...) all closed up (like neither she no I like her to be) she does start to smell a little (or a lot) like a wet dog. Thus I just leave a window open when I park in my garage (or the door open if I've got that good old #4 fuse pulled, obviously not a problem if the top is down) > how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? That's my deal. Never had any parts stolen, your mileage may vary. Not the lowest crime rate where I am, not the highest either. I guess you could have a bicycle cable lock or something you run through the door handles if you are worried about them. With the other parts hidden "inside the top" I doubt anyone would go to the trouble to remove those parts (it's easiest to just put the top up to get them out!) If it's going to rain while I'm at work, I put it all up, or watch very close out the window to see if it really does look like rain. Yes, a few times I have had to put the top up will it was pouring. One time I even had to change clothes at work when I was done. Good thing I'm a geek engineer and can wear just about anything legal while at work! I drive 24ish miles (each way) to work, with a garage at home, so it is fairly common to put the top down on the way home, park in the garage with the top down, drive to work, and then put the top up. Yes, I do mean put the top down on the way home. Usually about 3 or 4 red lights is all it takes for the top and half-door tops. Sometimes doing this I just toss the rear side windows into back. Did I mention I really like to have the top down? I carry a windbreaker (easier/funner to just don a jacket than put the top up when the sun goes down in spring/fall), so sometimes I put the jacket on the seat (for rainprojection) and fold both front seats forward. Thus the seats are somewhat sheilded from the rain, as is the dash (though not the CD player!). Perhaps I should get a marine grade CD player... (or duct tape!) alan "99 TJ with 110,000 miles" curtis PS As for mirrors without doors, I got two suction cup mirrors (2" x 4") that I stuck to the top outside corners of the windshield. Never been hassled for this, then again never pulled over for other reasons while doorless either, so who knows what might happen once I "come into the spotlight" for other reasons and don't have "official side mirrors". I think any claim that a jeep with no top and no doors has "reduced visibilty" is nuts, however. |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
> I can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off > because there is no way to secure them. They're no more secured when the top is up are they? In Ohio, and also suffer from the if you do/don't like the weather, just wait 10 minutes problem you mention. When I put the top down I roll up the rear window and do not remove it. I put the rear side windows on top of the back half of the top. Then when I pull the top back (aka "down") I make sure they all fold/roll as to avoid any really nasty folding and mostly somewhat "roll". Then I take the top half doors and put them just behind the rear seat (ie between the seat back and the wad of rolled up top/windows. I set them so that the posts that go into the doors are facing each other so they don't poke the back of the rear seat passengers heads (should I have them). Yes, my windows are "somewhat" (pronounced "alot") scratched up. I gave up on pristine windows pretty early. Plastic cleaner/descratcher does seem to work pretty good about once a year or so to resotore a lot of the visilibity. The plastic "door frames" go behind the rear seat also (in the trunk, so to speak). If I have rear seat passengers I stop at this point. Otherwise then I remove the doors and set them on the rear seat so that the mirrors are near the back roll bar (where the seatbelts are) and use some velcro straps to secure some portion of the mirror assembly to the back roll bar. Recently I've been setting them so that the "latch end" is down in the rear seat footwell, and the hinge end is towards the back. This front/back way seems to work better then trying to put them left and right. I've long since lost the nuts that are supposed to go on the bottom of the doors. For a while I was using a wrench I kept in the glove box, then my fingers, and now I just leave them off and can't rember where I put them. > If I leave them out, I have been > told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet > because it will smell mildewy" I got the dash soaked a few times. Twice bad enough that some of the gauges were a little weird. After about 3 days though, all was fine again, except for the CD player. I've learned to be real careful with that. Both of these times was when I took a hose to the dash to get off all the mud. Mud running in a convertible is a pain to clean up. I did have to drill the missing drain hole in the passenger side back seat footwell. I noticed at an auto show sometime after '99 they musta fixed that defect... If I leave PePe (yes, I named my jeep, but that's another thread...) all closed up (like neither she no I like her to be) she does start to smell a little (or a lot) like a wet dog. Thus I just leave a window open when I park in my garage (or the door open if I've got that good old #4 fuse pulled, obviously not a problem if the top is down) > how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? That's my deal. Never had any parts stolen, your mileage may vary. Not the lowest crime rate where I am, not the highest either. I guess you could have a bicycle cable lock or something you run through the door handles if you are worried about them. With the other parts hidden "inside the top" I doubt anyone would go to the trouble to remove those parts (it's easiest to just put the top up to get them out!) If it's going to rain while I'm at work, I put it all up, or watch very close out the window to see if it really does look like rain. Yes, a few times I have had to put the top up will it was pouring. One time I even had to change clothes at work when I was done. Good thing I'm a geek engineer and can wear just about anything legal while at work! I drive 24ish miles (each way) to work, with a garage at home, so it is fairly common to put the top down on the way home, park in the garage with the top down, drive to work, and then put the top up. Yes, I do mean put the top down on the way home. Usually about 3 or 4 red lights is all it takes for the top and half-door tops. Sometimes doing this I just toss the rear side windows into back. Did I mention I really like to have the top down? I carry a windbreaker (easier/funner to just don a jacket than put the top up when the sun goes down in spring/fall), so sometimes I put the jacket on the seat (for rainprojection) and fold both front seats forward. Thus the seats are somewhat sheilded from the rain, as is the dash (though not the CD player!). Perhaps I should get a marine grade CD player... (or duct tape!) alan "99 TJ with 110,000 miles" curtis PS As for mirrors without doors, I got two suction cup mirrors (2" x 4") that I stuck to the top outside corners of the windshield. Never been hassled for this, then again never pulled over for other reasons while doorless either, so who knows what might happen once I "come into the spotlight" for other reasons and don't have "official side mirrors". I think any claim that a jeep with no top and no doors has "reduced visibilty" is nuts, however. |
Re: still at a dilmmea what to do with Rubi soft top ?
I just throw them in the rear cargo area (have the rear seat removed
typically). Like someone else said, they are at no more at risk than they are when the soft top is 'up'. I've scrambled outside to put the top up several times for sudden rainstorms. Other times, I've missed the opportunity and the Jeep was soaked. Oh well. :) Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:08:15 GMT, "dave" <x1236@charter.netREMOVETHIS> wrote: >Whining again. > >I am still at a dilmma what to do with the soft doors and windows once >removed for the summer. If you dont remove them, you sweat big time in the >canvas coffin. 80+ degrees is nasty in there. > >We have had storms everyday the last three weeks here. If I take the top >down, windows out and door tops off, what do I do if it rains WHILE AT WORK >or at WALMART ? Weather has changed here every few hours in some cases. I >can't carry the top parts with me for fear of them getting ripped off >because there is no way to secure them. If I leave them out, I have been >told "be careful not to get the dash wet 'cause it will fry or carpet wet >because it will smell mildewy" > >what the heck is the sense of making an "all durable" Jeep with a "delicate" >dash..? How do you prevent the dash from getting wet ? > >many said... remove the carpet and let it rain in there all you want.. I >don't want to remove the carpet.. > >how does anyone with a soft top jeep cope with these issues ? > |
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