Sticking seat belt retractor?
07-22-2006, 01:15 AM
#21
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Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
Mike Romain wrote:
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> > remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> > trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> > and foot on the brake.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will not
> > > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> > > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> > > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> > >
> > > My passenger side one is the worst.
> > >
> > > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> > > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> > >
> > > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> > > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> > >
> > > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> > > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> > > attempting it.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Lots of good advice. Many thanks!
I think I'll try to compressed air/shop vacuum approach 1st. I'm a
little gunshy about the wet cleaning and such, even with WD-40 as a
"chaser" Major concernss that any residual moisture or cleaner will be
a major dust & dirt magnet and really get the retractor fouled and
inoperative!.
Getting the retractor or anchor unbolted from the tub will be no
problem however. When did the 4 year long bare frame up rebuild (a
therapy project!), got rid of all the torx fasteners and used
anti-seize on virtually everything as I re-assembled it.
With apologies to Bill, while they may have been used at the factory -
REAL Jeeps don't need no stenking torx head fasteners! <grin>
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> > remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> > trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> > and foot on the brake.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will not
> > > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> > > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> > > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> > >
> > > My passenger side one is the worst.
> > >
> > > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> > > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> > >
> > > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> > > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> > >
> > > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> > > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> > > attempting it.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Lots of good advice. Many thanks!
I think I'll try to compressed air/shop vacuum approach 1st. I'm a
little gunshy about the wet cleaning and such, even with WD-40 as a
"chaser" Major concernss that any residual moisture or cleaner will be
a major dust & dirt magnet and really get the retractor fouled and
inoperative!.
Getting the retractor or anchor unbolted from the tub will be no
problem however. When did the 4 year long bare frame up rebuild (a
therapy project!), got rid of all the torx fasteners and used
anti-seize on virtually everything as I re-assembled it.
With apologies to Bill, while they may have been used at the factory -
REAL Jeeps don't need no stenking torx head fasteners! <grin>
07-22-2006, 04:11 PM
#22
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Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
>> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
>> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
>> and foot on the brake.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
>> > not
>> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
>> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
>> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
>> >
>> > My passenger side one is the worst.
>> >
>> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
>> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
>> >
>> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
>> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
>> >
>> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
>> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
>> > attempting it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
>> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
>> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
>> and foot on the brake.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
>> > not
>> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
>> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
>> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
>> >
>> > My passenger side one is the worst.
>> >
>> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
>> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
>> >
>> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
>> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
>> >
>> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
>> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
>> > attempting it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2006, 04:11 PM
#23
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Posts: n/a
Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
>> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
>> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
>> and foot on the brake.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
>> > not
>> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
>> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
>> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
>> >
>> > My passenger side one is the worst.
>> >
>> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
>> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
>> >
>> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
>> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
>> >
>> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
>> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
>> > attempting it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
>> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
>> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
>> and foot on the brake.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
>> > not
>> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
>> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
>> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
>> >
>> > My passenger side one is the worst.
>> >
>> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
>> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
>> >
>> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
>> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
>> >
>> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
>> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
>> > attempting it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2006, 04:11 PM
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
>> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
>> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
>> and foot on the brake.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
>> > not
>> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
>> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
>> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
>> >
>> > My passenger side one is the worst.
>> >
>> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
>> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
>> >
>> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
>> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
>> >
>> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
>> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
>> > attempting it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
>> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
>> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
>> and foot on the brake.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
>> > not
>> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
>> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
>> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
>> >
>> > My passenger side one is the worst.
>> >
>> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
>> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
>> >
>> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
>> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
>> >
>> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
>> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
>> > attempting it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2006, 04:11 PM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
>> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
>> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
>> and foot on the brake.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
>> > not
>> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
>> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
>> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
>> >
>> > My passenger side one is the worst.
>> >
>> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
>> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
>> >
>> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
>> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
>> >
>> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
>> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
>> > attempting it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> flipper dipper to lock them.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
>> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
>> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
>> and foot on the brake.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
>> > not
>> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
>> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
>> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
>> >
>> > My passenger side one is the worst.
>> >
>> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
>> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
>> >
>> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
>> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
>> >
>> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
>> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
>> > attempting it.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2006, 05:56 PM
#26
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Posts: n/a
Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
I haven't had one apart, but the CJ ones could be similar. They also
lock with a fast pull out.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
> the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> > flipper dipper to lock them.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> >> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> >> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> >> and foot on the brake.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
> >> > not
> >> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> >> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> >> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> >> >
> >> > My passenger side one is the worst.
> >> >
> >> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> >> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> >> >
> >> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> >> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> >> >
> >> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> >> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> >> > attempting it.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
lock with a fast pull out.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
> the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> > flipper dipper to lock them.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> >> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> >> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> >> and foot on the brake.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
> >> > not
> >> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> >> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> >> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> >> >
> >> > My passenger side one is the worst.
> >> >
> >> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> >> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> >> >
> >> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> >> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> >> >
> >> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> >> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> >> > attempting it.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2006, 05:56 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
I haven't had one apart, but the CJ ones could be similar. They also
lock with a fast pull out.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
> the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> > flipper dipper to lock them.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> >> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> >> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> >> and foot on the brake.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
> >> > not
> >> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> >> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> >> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> >> >
> >> > My passenger side one is the worst.
> >> >
> >> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> >> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> >> >
> >> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> >> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> >> >
> >> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> >> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> >> > attempting it.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
lock with a fast pull out.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
> the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> > flipper dipper to lock them.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> >> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> >> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> >> and foot on the brake.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
> >> > not
> >> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> >> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> >> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> >> >
> >> > My passenger side one is the worst.
> >> >
> >> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> >> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> >> >
> >> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> >> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> >> >
> >> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> >> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> >> > attempting it.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2006, 05:56 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
I haven't had one apart, but the CJ ones could be similar. They also
lock with a fast pull out.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
> the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> > flipper dipper to lock them.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> >> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> >> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> >> and foot on the brake.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
> >> > not
> >> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> >> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> >> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> >> >
> >> > My passenger side one is the worst.
> >> >
> >> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> >> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> >> >
> >> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> >> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> >> >
> >> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> >> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> >> > attempting it.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
lock with a fast pull out.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
> the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> > flipper dipper to lock them.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> >> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> >> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> >> and foot on the brake.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
> >> > not
> >> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> >> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> >> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> >> >
> >> > My passenger side one is the worst.
> >> >
> >> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> >> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> >> >
> >> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> >> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> >> >
> >> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> >> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> >> > attempting it.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2006, 05:56 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Sticking seat belt retractor?
I haven't had one apart, but the CJ ones could be similar. They also
lock with a fast pull out.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
> the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> > flipper dipper to lock them.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> >> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> >> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> >> and foot on the brake.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
> >> > not
> >> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> >> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> >> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> >> >
> >> > My passenger side one is the worst.
> >> >
> >> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> >> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> >> >
> >> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> >> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> >> >
> >> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> >> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> >> > attempting it.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
lock with a fast pull out.
Mike
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> The TJ's use a 1/2" steel ball that shifts with inertia or gravity to lock
> the belts..when it rolls upward/forward it locks tight.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44C1784D.14ACFDD@sympatico.ca...
> > No, the CJ ones are just plain mechanical with a weight/angle/speed
> > flipper dipper to lock them.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there electrical release/retractors and lock-ups in yours. I
> >> remember my Daughter's rag top Stang in that year use to **** me off
> >> trying to hook up the belt without the transmission being in neutral,
> >> and foot on the brake.
> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Well, the CJ belts are a pain because they do lock up tight and will
> >> > not
> >> > release on a slope. This can pin you into the seat hard sometimes. I
> >> > got some clips that go onto the belt and stop the shoulder part from
> >> > retracting on me when I am wheeling.
> >> >
> >> > My passenger side one is the worst.
> >> >
> >> > There has been talk here in the past about even using a bolt or a small
> >> > pair of vise grips clamped on to stop the 'shrinking' belt issue.
> >> >
> >> > I use a high pressure air blower and/or a shop vac to try and clean the
> >> > junk out. I have even used a water pressure washer.
> >> >
> >> > Removing the belt anchor on an 83 would be problematic due to rust but
> >> > you can try soaking it in penetrating oil for a few days before
> >> > attempting it.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
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