Steering Bell Crank and parts 1967 CJ5 V6
06-08-2004, 09:17 PM
#41
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Re: Steering Bell Crank and parts 1967 CJ5 V6
Yes. I 'love' my Haynes manual. It covers CJ's from 1949 to 1986 and is
spot on for any I have checked or offered advice on.
Steering gear on a CJ is by year, not engine. Power steering has
different pump brackets for different engines....
Mike
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks... I didn't even notice that this site didn't specify the engine
> size like the other ones I've been too... silly me.
>
> Stephen B.
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:40C63644.BA30A520@sympatico.ca:
>
> > Unless it specifies a limit on the engine for the part, you have no
> > worries. If it is for a '48 to '71 like it says, it is just that.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Bomber wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.vintagejeepparts.com/Parts_Steering_02.asp
> >>
> >> Above is a link, see the diagram toward the bottom. I will need all
> >> it's pieces (3 and 3A), assuming I don't go with the Saginaw setup as
> >> Bill has suggested.
> >>
> >> Stephen B.
> >>
> >> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> >> news:40C60707.31724863@sympatico.ca:
> >>
> >> > I am having a hard time figuring out what you are looking for.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Bomber wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Great afternoon all!
> >> >>
> >> >> I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast.
> >> >> It has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that
> >> >> are for the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft
> >> >> the same as the V6??
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl,
> >> >> 7/8") from a number of different places, I am just curious about
> >> >> your personal experiences.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get
> >> >> rid of??
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Bomber
spot on for any I have checked or offered advice on.
Steering gear on a CJ is by year, not engine. Power steering has
different pump brackets for different engines....
Mike
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks... I didn't even notice that this site didn't specify the engine
> size like the other ones I've been too... silly me.
>
> Stephen B.
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:40C63644.BA30A520@sympatico.ca:
>
> > Unless it specifies a limit on the engine for the part, you have no
> > worries. If it is for a '48 to '71 like it says, it is just that.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Bomber wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.vintagejeepparts.com/Parts_Steering_02.asp
> >>
> >> Above is a link, see the diagram toward the bottom. I will need all
> >> it's pieces (3 and 3A), assuming I don't go with the Saginaw setup as
> >> Bill has suggested.
> >>
> >> Stephen B.
> >>
> >> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> >> news:40C60707.31724863@sympatico.ca:
> >>
> >> > I am having a hard time figuring out what you are looking for.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Bomber wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Great afternoon all!
> >> >>
> >> >> I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast.
> >> >> It has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that
> >> >> are for the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft
> >> >> the same as the V6??
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl,
> >> >> 7/8") from a number of different places, I am just curious about
> >> >> your personal experiences.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get
> >> >> rid of??
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Bomber
06-08-2004, 11:55 PM
#42
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Posts: n/a
Re: Steering Bell Crank and parts 1967 CJ5 V6
The bell crank will have needle bearing and thrust washers and be
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
06-08-2004, 11:55 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Steering Bell Crank and parts 1967 CJ5 V6
The bell crank will have needle bearing and thrust washers and be
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
06-08-2004, 11:55 PM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Steering Bell Crank and parts 1967 CJ5 V6
The bell crank will have needle bearing and thrust washers and be
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
06-08-2004, 11:55 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Steering Bell Crank and parts 1967 CJ5 V6
The bell crank will have needle bearing and thrust washers and be
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
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