Steering Bell Crank and parts 1967 CJ5 V6
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Yes. I 'love' my Haynes manual. It covers CJ's from 1949 to 1986 and is
spot on for any I have checked or offered advice on.
Steering gear on a CJ is by year, not engine. Power steering has
different pump brackets for different engines....
Mike
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks... I didn't even notice that this site didn't specify the engine
> size like the other ones I've been too... silly me.
>
> Stephen B.
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:40C63644.BA30A520@sympatico.ca:
>
> > Unless it specifies a limit on the engine for the part, you have no
> > worries. If it is for a '48 to '71 like it says, it is just that.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Bomber wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.vintagejeepparts.com/Parts_Steering_02.asp
> >>
> >> Above is a link, see the diagram toward the bottom. I will need all
> >> it's pieces (3 and 3A), assuming I don't go with the Saginaw setup as
> >> Bill has suggested.
> >>
> >> Stephen B.
> >>
> >> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> >> news:40C60707.31724863@sympatico.ca:
> >>
> >> > I am having a hard time figuring out what you are looking for.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Bomber wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Great afternoon all!
> >> >>
> >> >> I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast.
> >> >> It has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that
> >> >> are for the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft
> >> >> the same as the V6??
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl,
> >> >> 7/8") from a number of different places, I am just curious about
> >> >> your personal experiences.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get
> >> >> rid of??
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Bomber
spot on for any I have checked or offered advice on.
Steering gear on a CJ is by year, not engine. Power steering has
different pump brackets for different engines....
Mike
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks... I didn't even notice that this site didn't specify the engine
> size like the other ones I've been too... silly me.
>
> Stephen B.
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> news:40C63644.BA30A520@sympatico.ca:
>
> > Unless it specifies a limit on the engine for the part, you have no
> > worries. If it is for a '48 to '71 like it says, it is just that.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Bomber wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.vintagejeepparts.com/Parts_Steering_02.asp
> >>
> >> Above is a link, see the diagram toward the bottom. I will need all
> >> it's pieces (3 and 3A), assuming I don't go with the Saginaw setup as
> >> Bill has suggested.
> >>
> >> Stephen B.
> >>
> >> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
> >> news:40C60707.31724863@sympatico.ca:
> >>
> >> > I am having a hard time figuring out what you are looking for.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> > Bomber wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Great afternoon all!
> >> >>
> >> >> I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast.
> >> >> It has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that
> >> >> are for the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft
> >> >> the same as the V6??
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl,
> >> >> 7/8") from a number of different places, I am just curious about
> >> >> your personal experiences.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get
> >> >> rid of??
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> Bomber
Guest
Posts: n/a
The bell crank will have needle bearing and thrust washers and be
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
Guest
Posts: n/a
The bell crank will have needle bearing and thrust washers and be
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
Guest
Posts: n/a
The bell crank will have needle bearing and thrust washers and be
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
Guest
Posts: n/a
The bell crank will have needle bearing and thrust washers and be
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
clamped into place. It was junk new.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Stephen B." wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info Howard...
>
> I know the Bell Crank is junk due to the fact that there are groves in
> the ball from someone tightening down too tight on the fixing screw, the
> one that holds it to the steering shaft.
>
> Another thing, the main thing, I noticed is that there are no bushings
> on either side of the shaft, every manual and shaft kit shows 2 of them,
> mine has none. Needless to say, the crank moves up and down before it
> move front and back... which equals slop.
>
> I will check out these other sites as my quest, for now, is to leave it
> as stock as possible.
>
> SB
>
> Howard Eisenhauer <howarde@REMOVECAPShfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:pokcc0l6ut2ndio4duv9ccqaanc85nlrro@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:54:21 GMT, Bomber <newsaddyOOPS@sbcglobal.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I believe that the V6 used the same stearing box as the M38A1, & my
> > parts catalogs list the same repair kit part number for the CJ F4, the
> > V6 & the M38A1 so you should be good to go.
> >
> > Other things to check are the ball sockets in the draglink, the pitman
> > arm (ball) and, of course, the sector shaft pins. These are all
> > subject to wear, as I found out after putting in a couple of bellcanks
> > kits :(. I finally replaced them all & it made a world of differance.
> >
> > The Ross box setup works fine if you get the slop out of all the
> > pieces.
> >
> > You might want to try the forum here for more/better info-
> >
> >>http://www.earlycj5.com/<
> >
> > Also many very knowledgable people on the Yahoo ****** Tech list,
> >
> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/WillysTech/<
> >
> > Have fun,
> >
> > Howard.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Great afternoon all!
> >>
> >>I need to replace my steering bell crank. It's pretty much toast. It
> >>has a 7/8" shaft though I cannot seem to find any parts that are for
> >>the V6 version of my Jeep. Is the 4 cylinder, 7/8" shaft the same as
> >>the V6??
> >>
> >>Does anyone have a good source? I know I can get them (4cyl, 7/8")
> >>from a number of different places, I am just curious about your
> >>personal experiences.
> >>
> >>Does anyone have one complete and in good shape you'd like to get rid
> >>of??
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>Bomber
> >
> >
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