Starting modern jeep question
03-30-2007, 11:17 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
On Mar 30, 11:12 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
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> Earle
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> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?- Hide quoted text -
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Bummer! And here I was thinking the '95 would start like the '43.
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
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> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
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> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?- Hide quoted text -
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Bummer! And here I was thinking the '95 would start like the '43.
03-30-2007, 11:17 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
On Mar 30, 11:12 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
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>
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> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bummer! And here I was thinking the '95 would start like the '43.
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
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>
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> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bummer! And here I was thinking the '95 would start like the '43.
03-30-2007, 11:17 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
On Mar 30, 11:12 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bummer! And here I was thinking the '95 would start like the '43.
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
>
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> > Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> > electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> > Is this true?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bummer! And here I was thinking the '95 would start like the '43.
03-30-2007, 11:21 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
nrs wrote:
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>
Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
a computer to turn on the alternator.
Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
some sort in there now.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>
Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
a computer to turn on the alternator.
Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
some sort in there now.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
03-30-2007, 11:21 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
nrs wrote:
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>
Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
a computer to turn on the alternator.
Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
some sort in there now.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>
Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
a computer to turn on the alternator.
Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
some sort in there now.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
03-30-2007, 11:21 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
nrs wrote:
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>
Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
a computer to turn on the alternator.
Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
some sort in there now.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
> Is this true?
>
Yes. Same for having a dead battery in there, you are screwed.
Even in my old 86 it won't start with a push and no battery because the
alternator won't turn on with no power. It has to have a few volts in
there to get the alternator field active. The new ones have to turn on
a computer to turn on the alternator.
Push starting with no battery went out with the generator vehicles and
maybe some first generation alternators. They all need batteries of
some sort in there now.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
03-30-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>> Is this true?
>>
>
>
Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>> Is this true?
>>
>
>
03-30-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>> Is this true?
>>
>
>
Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>> Is this true?
>>
>
>
03-30-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: Starting modern jeep question
Earle, you are out of phase with the rest of the world by an hour ahead.
Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>> Is this true?
>>
>
>
Either your PC clock is off or the time zone is.
I keep reading replies to your posts before I see your posts...
Mike
Earle Horton wrote:
> This is true of any "modern" vehicle with an alternator based charging
> system, made since 1960 or so. Bill, Matt or Mike might be old enough to
> give the exact year.
>
> Earle
>
> "nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1175267193.547785.47250@n59g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> Someone told me recently that a modern fuel injected Jeep with
>> electric fuel pump cannot be push started if it has no battery in it.
>> Is this true?
>>
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>