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Dave Milne

His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
news:434574ff.256203015@wilhelp.com...
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:43:07 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> >Can't you sue his **** off for libel ?
>
> Not at all... Brad has no way damaged me or harmed me in any fashion and
> I could never prove he has. Nobody believes him and more importantly,
> nobody I know or do business knows about him or cares.
>
> I have never felt threatened or harassed by Brad and he can demand all
> he wants, it doesn't make a difference to me because I have no
> intentions of going away or doing what he wants. He can't do anything
> to me other than follow me around and call me names. Big deal...
>
> What you have seen here is the worst he can do and he lost yet another
> account doing it. Some people may be bothered but most just LART him on
> whatever anonymous service he is hiding behind and enjoy the peace until
> he finds another one to abuse.
>
> This is all Brad has so giving him attention is not a good idea. Just
> LART him on whatever service he is hiding behind and include
> abuse@concentric.net and/or abuse@xo.com when he includes his website or
> is trying to scam people into going to his website so he can gain
> whatever personal information he can from them and harass them as well.
>
>
> >Dave Milne, Scotland
> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
> >news:435c45e9.178449953@wilhelp.com...
> >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:24:15 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:42:25 -0500 in
> >> ><OFl_e.7371$P34.1236@okepread07>, "DougW"
> >> ><post.replies@invalid.address> graced the world with this thought:
> >> >
> >> >>don't be baited by this shitstain. He's not
> >> >>worth spit. This is bwadly, Brad Jesness, a quite
> >> >>mentally disturbed individual. That isn't worth
> >> >>the bullet it would take to remove him from the planet.
> >> >
> >> >It may be considered to turn his name over to his county Board of
> >> >Health so they can check up on him. Given that he's been ranting like
> >> >this for several YEARS now, he clearly has more mental problems that
> >> >Charles Manson, and qualify for nonvoluntary observation. Clearly
> >> >someone this disoriented and obsessed can't lead a normal day to day
> >> >life. My guess is that Taylor was boning this guy's old lady and she
> >> >left him..
> >>
> >> Though I am sure you are joking I have done nothing to Brad or his
> >> absent wife other than stand up to Brad's constant name calling and
> >> following of me around Usenet.
> >>
> >> Quite some time ago I told RAMJW that I will not engage nor encourage
> >> Brad to post in this group and up until this post I have not said
> >> anything about him here. I do not control Brad nor his actions and I
> >> don't take responsibility for what he does. I do take responsibility
> >> for what I do and that is why I do not participate in the threads Brad
> >> creates or encourage anyone to give Brad the attention he so
desperately
> >> seeks.
> >>
> >> That being said, Brad is here for one reason only and that is because I
> >> lurk in this group and sometimes post. Nothing more. Brad is a bitter
> >> angry man whose life is an utter failure and can't stand the fact that
I
> >> won't cave in to his demands or threats.
> >>
> >> At one time Brad was able to run people off Usenet with the type of
> >> tactics you have witnessed here, may support groups lost good people
who
> >> only wanted to help people but found themselves caught up with Brad and
> >> never ending quest to make a career on Usenet that he could not do in
> >> real life. These days all people see is Brad the yapping dog who can
do
> >> nothing more than call people names while hiding behind anonymous
> >> remailers.
> >>
> >> RAMJW will be quite for a few days since people like L.W. and others
> >> from other groups LART'd Brad and now he has to regroup and find a new
> >> anonymous remailer to hide behind. I suspect once he does he'll want
to
> >> make RAMJW "suffer" but like anything he does, he will fail.
> >>
> >> RAMJW has seen plenty of flame wars and there are many people here who
> >> enjoy the fight and also know that it is just as easy to LART those who
> >> want to pick them...
> >>
> >> I've been in this group for many years now and I have gained mounds of
> >> knowledge here and I am grateful for that. Like I've said, I can't
> >> control another persons actions nor take responsibility for them but I
> >> can do as little as possible to encourage that... and as always, thanks
> >> for letting me clear up where I stand and let people know that I
> >> appreciate what they contribute to this group.
> >>
> >> Anyone is free to e-mail me if they would like to discuss this further
> >> and as you have seen by the actions of L.W. and Doug, it is best to
just
> >> LART Brad whenever he shows up and spews his venom.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Taylor
> >>
> >> '03 Audi S6 Avant
> >> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
> >> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> >
>
>
> --
> Taylor
>
> '03 Audi S6 Avant
> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Dave Milne

His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
news:434574ff.256203015@wilhelp.com...
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:43:07 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> >Can't you sue his **** off for libel ?
>
> Not at all... Brad has no way damaged me or harmed me in any fashion and
> I could never prove he has. Nobody believes him and more importantly,
> nobody I know or do business knows about him or cares.
>
> I have never felt threatened or harassed by Brad and he can demand all
> he wants, it doesn't make a difference to me because I have no
> intentions of going away or doing what he wants. He can't do anything
> to me other than follow me around and call me names. Big deal...
>
> What you have seen here is the worst he can do and he lost yet another
> account doing it. Some people may be bothered but most just LART him on
> whatever anonymous service he is hiding behind and enjoy the peace until
> he finds another one to abuse.
>
> This is all Brad has so giving him attention is not a good idea. Just
> LART him on whatever service he is hiding behind and include
> abuse@concentric.net and/or abuse@xo.com when he includes his website or
> is trying to scam people into going to his website so he can gain
> whatever personal information he can from them and harass them as well.
>
>
> >Dave Milne, Scotland
> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
> >news:435c45e9.178449953@wilhelp.com...
> >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:24:15 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:42:25 -0500 in
> >> ><OFl_e.7371$P34.1236@okepread07>, "DougW"
> >> ><post.replies@invalid.address> graced the world with this thought:
> >> >
> >> >>don't be baited by this shitstain. He's not
> >> >>worth spit. This is bwadly, Brad Jesness, a quite
> >> >>mentally disturbed individual. That isn't worth
> >> >>the bullet it would take to remove him from the planet.
> >> >
> >> >It may be considered to turn his name over to his county Board of
> >> >Health so they can check up on him. Given that he's been ranting like
> >> >this for several YEARS now, he clearly has more mental problems that
> >> >Charles Manson, and qualify for nonvoluntary observation. Clearly
> >> >someone this disoriented and obsessed can't lead a normal day to day
> >> >life. My guess is that Taylor was boning this guy's old lady and she
> >> >left him..
> >>
> >> Though I am sure you are joking I have done nothing to Brad or his
> >> absent wife other than stand up to Brad's constant name calling and
> >> following of me around Usenet.
> >>
> >> Quite some time ago I told RAMJW that I will not engage nor encourage
> >> Brad to post in this group and up until this post I have not said
> >> anything about him here. I do not control Brad nor his actions and I
> >> don't take responsibility for what he does. I do take responsibility
> >> for what I do and that is why I do not participate in the threads Brad
> >> creates or encourage anyone to give Brad the attention he so
desperately
> >> seeks.
> >>
> >> That being said, Brad is here for one reason only and that is because I
> >> lurk in this group and sometimes post. Nothing more. Brad is a bitter
> >> angry man whose life is an utter failure and can't stand the fact that
I
> >> won't cave in to his demands or threats.
> >>
> >> At one time Brad was able to run people off Usenet with the type of
> >> tactics you have witnessed here, may support groups lost good people
who
> >> only wanted to help people but found themselves caught up with Brad and
> >> never ending quest to make a career on Usenet that he could not do in
> >> real life. These days all people see is Brad the yapping dog who can
do
> >> nothing more than call people names while hiding behind anonymous
> >> remailers.
> >>
> >> RAMJW will be quite for a few days since people like L.W. and others
> >> from other groups LART'd Brad and now he has to regroup and find a new
> >> anonymous remailer to hide behind. I suspect once he does he'll want
to
> >> make RAMJW "suffer" but like anything he does, he will fail.
> >>
> >> RAMJW has seen plenty of flame wars and there are many people here who
> >> enjoy the fight and also know that it is just as easy to LART those who
> >> want to pick them...
> >>
> >> I've been in this group for many years now and I have gained mounds of
> >> knowledge here and I am grateful for that. Like I've said, I can't
> >> control another persons actions nor take responsibility for them but I
> >> can do as little as possible to encourage that... and as always, thanks
> >> for letting me clear up where I stand and let people know that I
> >> appreciate what they contribute to this group.
> >>
> >> Anyone is free to e-mail me if they would like to discuss this further
> >> and as you have seen by the actions of L.W. and Doug, it is best to
just
> >> LART Brad whenever he shows up and spews his venom.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Taylor
> >>
> >> '03 Audi S6 Avant
> >> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
> >> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> >
>
>
> --
> Taylor
>
> '03 Audi S6 Avant
> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Dave Milne

His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
news:434574ff.256203015@wilhelp.com...
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:43:07 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> >Can't you sue his **** off for libel ?
>
> Not at all... Brad has no way damaged me or harmed me in any fashion and
> I could never prove he has. Nobody believes him and more importantly,
> nobody I know or do business knows about him or cares.
>
> I have never felt threatened or harassed by Brad and he can demand all
> he wants, it doesn't make a difference to me because I have no
> intentions of going away or doing what he wants. He can't do anything
> to me other than follow me around and call me names. Big deal...
>
> What you have seen here is the worst he can do and he lost yet another
> account doing it. Some people may be bothered but most just LART him on
> whatever anonymous service he is hiding behind and enjoy the peace until
> he finds another one to abuse.
>
> This is all Brad has so giving him attention is not a good idea. Just
> LART him on whatever service he is hiding behind and include
> abuse@concentric.net and/or abuse@xo.com when he includes his website or
> is trying to scam people into going to his website so he can gain
> whatever personal information he can from them and harass them as well.
>
>
> >Dave Milne, Scotland
> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
> >news:435c45e9.178449953@wilhelp.com...
> >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:24:15 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:42:25 -0500 in
> >> ><OFl_e.7371$P34.1236@okepread07>, "DougW"
> >> ><post.replies@invalid.address> graced the world with this thought:
> >> >
> >> >>don't be baited by this shitstain. He's not
> >> >>worth spit. This is bwadly, Brad Jesness, a quite
> >> >>mentally disturbed individual. That isn't worth
> >> >>the bullet it would take to remove him from the planet.
> >> >
> >> >It may be considered to turn his name over to his county Board of
> >> >Health so they can check up on him. Given that he's been ranting like
> >> >this for several YEARS now, he clearly has more mental problems that
> >> >Charles Manson, and qualify for nonvoluntary observation. Clearly
> >> >someone this disoriented and obsessed can't lead a normal day to day
> >> >life. My guess is that Taylor was boning this guy's old lady and she
> >> >left him..
> >>
> >> Though I am sure you are joking I have done nothing to Brad or his
> >> absent wife other than stand up to Brad's constant name calling and
> >> following of me around Usenet.
> >>
> >> Quite some time ago I told RAMJW that I will not engage nor encourage
> >> Brad to post in this group and up until this post I have not said
> >> anything about him here. I do not control Brad nor his actions and I
> >> don't take responsibility for what he does. I do take responsibility
> >> for what I do and that is why I do not participate in the threads Brad
> >> creates or encourage anyone to give Brad the attention he so
desperately
> >> seeks.
> >>
> >> That being said, Brad is here for one reason only and that is because I
> >> lurk in this group and sometimes post. Nothing more. Brad is a bitter
> >> angry man whose life is an utter failure and can't stand the fact that
I
> >> won't cave in to his demands or threats.
> >>
> >> At one time Brad was able to run people off Usenet with the type of
> >> tactics you have witnessed here, may support groups lost good people
who
> >> only wanted to help people but found themselves caught up with Brad and
> >> never ending quest to make a career on Usenet that he could not do in
> >> real life. These days all people see is Brad the yapping dog who can
do
> >> nothing more than call people names while hiding behind anonymous
> >> remailers.
> >>
> >> RAMJW will be quite for a few days since people like L.W. and others
> >> from other groups LART'd Brad and now he has to regroup and find a new
> >> anonymous remailer to hide behind. I suspect once he does he'll want
to
> >> make RAMJW "suffer" but like anything he does, he will fail.
> >>
> >> RAMJW has seen plenty of flame wars and there are many people here who
> >> enjoy the fight and also know that it is just as easy to LART those who
> >> want to pick them...
> >>
> >> I've been in this group for many years now and I have gained mounds of
> >> knowledge here and I am grateful for that. Like I've said, I can't
> >> control another persons actions nor take responsibility for them but I
> >> can do as little as possible to encourage that... and as always, thanks
> >> for letting me clear up where I stand and let people know that I
> >> appreciate what they contribute to this group.
> >>
> >> Anyone is free to e-mail me if they would like to discuss this further
> >> and as you have seen by the actions of L.W. and Doug, it is best to
just
> >> LART Brad whenever he shows up and spews his venom.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Taylor
> >>
> >> '03 Audi S6 Avant
> >> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
> >> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
> >
>
>
> --
> Taylor
>
> '03 Audi S6 Avant
> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Just Taylor

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:22:52 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
wrote:

>His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
>That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !

But in order to prove I have been damaged in any way I have to have been
damaged in any way. Do you believe his incoherent rants? Lets face it,
all you know is what little of you have seen of my posts here in RAMJW
and what Brad has posted here...

The fact that nobody believes Brad here on Usenet and like I said,
anyone I know in person and do business with means I have not been
damaged. I would throw good money away taking Brad down as he has no
personal wealth or assets. Even then it would be a long shot as I have
said many times that Brad has not harmed me, threatened or harassed me
in any way whatsoever. I would be Brad's best defense!

What it comes down to is sticks and stones... Now Brad's FAQ only
points to his Google Archive, all posts are easily verified as his yet
Brad claims he has been damaged, his Usenet Career ruined and his
ability to counsel people on Usenet forever shut down. He claims he has
been damaged and that lawyers left and right are working with him on
"taking me down." He's been saying that since September, 2001...

If he is so damaged and all, why is he only following me around Usenet
and calling me names instead of doing something that really helps him
out?

>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
>news:434574ff.256203015@wilhelp.com...
>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:43:07 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Can't you sue his **** off for libel ?
>>
>> Not at all... Brad has no way damaged me or harmed me in any fashion and
>> I could never prove he has. Nobody believes him and more importantly,
>> nobody I know or do business knows about him or cares.
>>
>> I have never felt threatened or harassed by Brad and he can demand all
>> he wants, it doesn't make a difference to me because I have no
>> intentions of going away or doing what he wants. He can't do anything
>> to me other than follow me around and call me names. Big deal...
>>
>> What you have seen here is the worst he can do and he lost yet another
>> account doing it. Some people may be bothered but most just LART him on
>> whatever anonymous service he is hiding behind and enjoy the peace until
>> he finds another one to abuse.
>>
>> This is all Brad has so giving him attention is not a good idea. Just
>> LART him on whatever service he is hiding behind and include
>> abuse@concentric.net and/or abuse@xo.com when he includes his website or
>> is trying to scam people into going to his website so he can gain
>> whatever personal information he can from them and harass them as well.
>>
>>
>> >Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> >"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
>> >news:435c45e9.178449953@wilhelp.com...
>> >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:24:15 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:42:25 -0500 in
>> >> ><OFl_e.7371$P34.1236@okepread07>, "DougW"
>> >> ><post.replies@invalid.address> graced the world with this thought:
>> >> >
>> >> >>don't be baited by this shitstain. He's not
>> >> >>worth spit. This is bwadly, Brad Jesness, a quite
>> >> >>mentally disturbed individual. That isn't worth
>> >> >>the bullet it would take to remove him from the planet.
>> >> >
>> >> >It may be considered to turn his name over to his county Board of
>> >> >Health so they can check up on him. Given that he's been ranting like
>> >> >this for several YEARS now, he clearly has more mental problems that
>> >> >Charles Manson, and qualify for nonvoluntary observation. Clearly
>> >> >someone this disoriented and obsessed can't lead a normal day to day
>> >> >life. My guess is that Taylor was boning this guy's old lady and she
>> >> >left him..
>> >>
>> >> Though I am sure you are joking I have done nothing to Brad or his
>> >> absent wife other than stand up to Brad's constant name calling and
>> >> following of me around Usenet.
>> >>
>> >> Quite some time ago I told RAMJW that I will not engage nor encourage
>> >> Brad to post in this group and up until this post I have not said
>> >> anything about him here. I do not control Brad nor his actions and I
>> >> don't take responsibility for what he does. I do take responsibility
>> >> for what I do and that is why I do not participate in the threads Brad
>> >> creates or encourage anyone to give Brad the attention he so
>desperately
>> >> seeks.
>> >>
>> >> That being said, Brad is here for one reason only and that is because I
>> >> lurk in this group and sometimes post. Nothing more. Brad is a bitter
>> >> angry man whose life is an utter failure and can't stand the fact that
>I
>> >> won't cave in to his demands or threats.
>> >>
>> >> At one time Brad was able to run people off Usenet with the type of
>> >> tactics you have witnessed here, may support groups lost good people
>who
>> >> only wanted to help people but found themselves caught up with Brad and
>> >> never ending quest to make a career on Usenet that he could not do in
>> >> real life. These days all people see is Brad the yapping dog who can
>do
>> >> nothing more than call people names while hiding behind anonymous
>> >> remailers.
>> >>
>> >> RAMJW will be quite for a few days since people like L.W. and others
>> >> from other groups LART'd Brad and now he has to regroup and find a new
>> >> anonymous remailer to hide behind. I suspect once he does he'll want
>to
>> >> make RAMJW "suffer" but like anything he does, he will fail.
>> >>
>> >> RAMJW has seen plenty of flame wars and there are many people here who
>> >> enjoy the fight and also know that it is just as easy to LART those who
>> >> want to pick them...
>> >>
>> >> I've been in this group for many years now and I have gained mounds of
>> >> knowledge here and I am grateful for that. Like I've said, I can't
>> >> control another persons actions nor take responsibility for them but I
>> >> can do as little as possible to encourage that... and as always, thanks
>> >> for letting me clear up where I stand and let people know that I
>> >> appreciate what they contribute to this group.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone is free to e-mail me if they would like to discuss this further
>> >> and as you have seen by the actions of L.W. and Doug, it is best to
>just
>> >> LART Brad whenever he shows up and spews his venom.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Taylor
>> >>
>> >> '03 Audi S6 Avant
>> >> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
>> >> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Taylor
>>
>> '03 Audi S6 Avant
>> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
>> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>


--
Taylor

'03 Audi S6 Avant
'05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Just Taylor

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:22:52 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
wrote:

>His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
>That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !

But in order to prove I have been damaged in any way I have to have been
damaged in any way. Do you believe his incoherent rants? Lets face it,
all you know is what little of you have seen of my posts here in RAMJW
and what Brad has posted here...

The fact that nobody believes Brad here on Usenet and like I said,
anyone I know in person and do business with means I have not been
damaged. I would throw good money away taking Brad down as he has no
personal wealth or assets. Even then it would be a long shot as I have
said many times that Brad has not harmed me, threatened or harassed me
in any way whatsoever. I would be Brad's best defense!

What it comes down to is sticks and stones... Now Brad's FAQ only
points to his Google Archive, all posts are easily verified as his yet
Brad claims he has been damaged, his Usenet Career ruined and his
ability to counsel people on Usenet forever shut down. He claims he has
been damaged and that lawyers left and right are working with him on
"taking me down." He's been saying that since September, 2001...

If he is so damaged and all, why is he only following me around Usenet
and calling me names instead of doing something that really helps him
out?

>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
>news:434574ff.256203015@wilhelp.com...
>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:43:07 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Can't you sue his **** off for libel ?
>>
>> Not at all... Brad has no way damaged me or harmed me in any fashion and
>> I could never prove he has. Nobody believes him and more importantly,
>> nobody I know or do business knows about him or cares.
>>
>> I have never felt threatened or harassed by Brad and he can demand all
>> he wants, it doesn't make a difference to me because I have no
>> intentions of going away or doing what he wants. He can't do anything
>> to me other than follow me around and call me names. Big deal...
>>
>> What you have seen here is the worst he can do and he lost yet another
>> account doing it. Some people may be bothered but most just LART him on
>> whatever anonymous service he is hiding behind and enjoy the peace until
>> he finds another one to abuse.
>>
>> This is all Brad has so giving him attention is not a good idea. Just
>> LART him on whatever service he is hiding behind and include
>> abuse@concentric.net and/or abuse@xo.com when he includes his website or
>> is trying to scam people into going to his website so he can gain
>> whatever personal information he can from them and harass them as well.
>>
>>
>> >Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> >"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
>> >news:435c45e9.178449953@wilhelp.com...
>> >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:24:15 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:42:25 -0500 in
>> >> ><OFl_e.7371$P34.1236@okepread07>, "DougW"
>> >> ><post.replies@invalid.address> graced the world with this thought:
>> >> >
>> >> >>don't be baited by this shitstain. He's not
>> >> >>worth spit. This is bwadly, Brad Jesness, a quite
>> >> >>mentally disturbed individual. That isn't worth
>> >> >>the bullet it would take to remove him from the planet.
>> >> >
>> >> >It may be considered to turn his name over to his county Board of
>> >> >Health so they can check up on him. Given that he's been ranting like
>> >> >this for several YEARS now, he clearly has more mental problems that
>> >> >Charles Manson, and qualify for nonvoluntary observation. Clearly
>> >> >someone this disoriented and obsessed can't lead a normal day to day
>> >> >life. My guess is that Taylor was boning this guy's old lady and she
>> >> >left him..
>> >>
>> >> Though I am sure you are joking I have done nothing to Brad or his
>> >> absent wife other than stand up to Brad's constant name calling and
>> >> following of me around Usenet.
>> >>
>> >> Quite some time ago I told RAMJW that I will not engage nor encourage
>> >> Brad to post in this group and up until this post I have not said
>> >> anything about him here. I do not control Brad nor his actions and I
>> >> don't take responsibility for what he does. I do take responsibility
>> >> for what I do and that is why I do not participate in the threads Brad
>> >> creates or encourage anyone to give Brad the attention he so
>desperately
>> >> seeks.
>> >>
>> >> That being said, Brad is here for one reason only and that is because I
>> >> lurk in this group and sometimes post. Nothing more. Brad is a bitter
>> >> angry man whose life is an utter failure and can't stand the fact that
>I
>> >> won't cave in to his demands or threats.
>> >>
>> >> At one time Brad was able to run people off Usenet with the type of
>> >> tactics you have witnessed here, may support groups lost good people
>who
>> >> only wanted to help people but found themselves caught up with Brad and
>> >> never ending quest to make a career on Usenet that he could not do in
>> >> real life. These days all people see is Brad the yapping dog who can
>do
>> >> nothing more than call people names while hiding behind anonymous
>> >> remailers.
>> >>
>> >> RAMJW will be quite for a few days since people like L.W. and others
>> >> from other groups LART'd Brad and now he has to regroup and find a new
>> >> anonymous remailer to hide behind. I suspect once he does he'll want
>to
>> >> make RAMJW "suffer" but like anything he does, he will fail.
>> >>
>> >> RAMJW has seen plenty of flame wars and there are many people here who
>> >> enjoy the fight and also know that it is just as easy to LART those who
>> >> want to pick them...
>> >>
>> >> I've been in this group for many years now and I have gained mounds of
>> >> knowledge here and I am grateful for that. Like I've said, I can't
>> >> control another persons actions nor take responsibility for them but I
>> >> can do as little as possible to encourage that... and as always, thanks
>> >> for letting me clear up where I stand and let people know that I
>> >> appreciate what they contribute to this group.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone is free to e-mail me if they would like to discuss this further
>> >> and as you have seen by the actions of L.W. and Doug, it is best to
>just
>> >> LART Brad whenever he shows up and spews his venom.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Taylor
>> >>
>> >> '03 Audi S6 Avant
>> >> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
>> >> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Taylor
>>
>> '03 Audi S6 Avant
>> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
>> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>


--
Taylor

'03 Audi S6 Avant
'05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Just Taylor

On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:22:52 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
wrote:

>His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
>That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !

But in order to prove I have been damaged in any way I have to have been
damaged in any way. Do you believe his incoherent rants? Lets face it,
all you know is what little of you have seen of my posts here in RAMJW
and what Brad has posted here...

The fact that nobody believes Brad here on Usenet and like I said,
anyone I know in person and do business with means I have not been
damaged. I would throw good money away taking Brad down as he has no
personal wealth or assets. Even then it would be a long shot as I have
said many times that Brad has not harmed me, threatened or harassed me
in any way whatsoever. I would be Brad's best defense!

What it comes down to is sticks and stones... Now Brad's FAQ only
points to his Google Archive, all posts are easily verified as his yet
Brad claims he has been damaged, his Usenet Career ruined and his
ability to counsel people on Usenet forever shut down. He claims he has
been damaged and that lawyers left and right are working with him on
"taking me down." He's been saying that since September, 2001...

If he is so damaged and all, why is he only following me around Usenet
and calling me names instead of doing something that really helps him
out?

>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
>news:434574ff.256203015@wilhelp.com...
>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 07:43:07 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Can't you sue his **** off for libel ?
>>
>> Not at all... Brad has no way damaged me or harmed me in any fashion and
>> I could never prove he has. Nobody believes him and more importantly,
>> nobody I know or do business knows about him or cares.
>>
>> I have never felt threatened or harassed by Brad and he can demand all
>> he wants, it doesn't make a difference to me because I have no
>> intentions of going away or doing what he wants. He can't do anything
>> to me other than follow me around and call me names. Big deal...
>>
>> What you have seen here is the worst he can do and he lost yet another
>> account doing it. Some people may be bothered but most just LART him on
>> whatever anonymous service he is hiding behind and enjoy the peace until
>> he finds another one to abuse.
>>
>> This is all Brad has so giving him attention is not a good idea. Just
>> LART him on whatever service he is hiding behind and include
>> abuse@concentric.net and/or abuse@xo.com when he includes his website or
>> is trying to scam people into going to his website so he can gain
>> whatever personal information he can from them and harass them as well.
>>
>>
>> >Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>> >
>> >"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
>> >news:435c45e9.178449953@wilhelp.com...
>> >> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:24:15 GMT, bizbee <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:42:25 -0500 in
>> >> ><OFl_e.7371$P34.1236@okepread07>, "DougW"
>> >> ><post.replies@invalid.address> graced the world with this thought:
>> >> >
>> >> >>don't be baited by this shitstain. He's not
>> >> >>worth spit. This is bwadly, Brad Jesness, a quite
>> >> >>mentally disturbed individual. That isn't worth
>> >> >>the bullet it would take to remove him from the planet.
>> >> >
>> >> >It may be considered to turn his name over to his county Board of
>> >> >Health so they can check up on him. Given that he's been ranting like
>> >> >this for several YEARS now, he clearly has more mental problems that
>> >> >Charles Manson, and qualify for nonvoluntary observation. Clearly
>> >> >someone this disoriented and obsessed can't lead a normal day to day
>> >> >life. My guess is that Taylor was boning this guy's old lady and she
>> >> >left him..
>> >>
>> >> Though I am sure you are joking I have done nothing to Brad or his
>> >> absent wife other than stand up to Brad's constant name calling and
>> >> following of me around Usenet.
>> >>
>> >> Quite some time ago I told RAMJW that I will not engage nor encourage
>> >> Brad to post in this group and up until this post I have not said
>> >> anything about him here. I do not control Brad nor his actions and I
>> >> don't take responsibility for what he does. I do take responsibility
>> >> for what I do and that is why I do not participate in the threads Brad
>> >> creates or encourage anyone to give Brad the attention he so
>desperately
>> >> seeks.
>> >>
>> >> That being said, Brad is here for one reason only and that is because I
>> >> lurk in this group and sometimes post. Nothing more. Brad is a bitter
>> >> angry man whose life is an utter failure and can't stand the fact that
>I
>> >> won't cave in to his demands or threats.
>> >>
>> >> At one time Brad was able to run people off Usenet with the type of
>> >> tactics you have witnessed here, may support groups lost good people
>who
>> >> only wanted to help people but found themselves caught up with Brad and
>> >> never ending quest to make a career on Usenet that he could not do in
>> >> real life. These days all people see is Brad the yapping dog who can
>do
>> >> nothing more than call people names while hiding behind anonymous
>> >> remailers.
>> >>
>> >> RAMJW will be quite for a few days since people like L.W. and others
>> >> from other groups LART'd Brad and now he has to regroup and find a new
>> >> anonymous remailer to hide behind. I suspect once he does he'll want
>to
>> >> make RAMJW "suffer" but like anything he does, he will fail.
>> >>
>> >> RAMJW has seen plenty of flame wars and there are many people here who
>> >> enjoy the fight and also know that it is just as easy to LART those who
>> >> want to pick them...
>> >>
>> >> I've been in this group for many years now and I have gained mounds of
>> >> knowledge here and I am grateful for that. Like I've said, I can't
>> >> control another persons actions nor take responsibility for them but I
>> >> can do as little as possible to encourage that... and as always, thanks
>> >> for letting me clear up where I stand and let people know that I
>> >> appreciate what they contribute to this group.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone is free to e-mail me if they would like to discuss this further
>> >> and as you have seen by the actions of L.W. and Doug, it is best to
>just
>> >> LART Brad whenever he shows up and spews his venom.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Taylor
>> >>
>> >> '03 Audi S6 Avant
>> >> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
>> >> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Taylor
>>
>> '03 Audi S6 Avant
>> '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
>> '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport
>


--
Taylor

'03 Audi S6 Avant
'05 Mazda6 Wagon GT
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

Dave Milne

British libel laws are considered pro-plaintiff, meaning that the defendant
must prove that she or he did not commit libel. This is the opposite of
American libel law, which places the burden of proof upon the plaintiff to
show that the alleged libelous statement contained malice and caused damage.
I didn't realise this.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
news:434ceb0f.268130390@wilhelp.com...
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:22:52 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> >His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
> >That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !
>
> But in order to prove I have been damaged in any way I have to have been
> damaged in any way. Do you believe his incoherent rants? Lets face it,
> all you know is what little of you have seen of my posts here in RAMJW
> and what Brad has posted here...
>
> The fact that nobody believes Brad here on Usenet and like I said,
> anyone I know in person and do business with means I have not been
> damaged. ...

Dave Milne

British libel laws are considered pro-plaintiff, meaning that the defendant
must prove that she or he did not commit libel. This is the opposite of
American libel law, which places the burden of proof upon the plaintiff to
show that the alleged libelous statement contained malice and caused damage.
I didn't realise this.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
news:434ceb0f.268130390@wilhelp.com...
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:22:52 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> >His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
> >That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !
>
> But in order to prove I have been damaged in any way I have to have been
> damaged in any way. Do you believe his incoherent rants? Lets face it,
> all you know is what little of you have seen of my posts here in RAMJW
> and what Brad has posted here...
>
> The fact that nobody believes Brad here on Usenet and like I said,
> anyone I know in person and do business with means I have not been
> damaged. ...

Dave Milne

British libel laws are considered pro-plaintiff, meaning that the defendant
must prove that she or he did not commit libel. This is the opposite of
American libel law, which places the burden of proof upon the plaintiff to
show that the alleged libelous statement contained malice and caused damage.
I didn't realise this.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Just Taylor" <taylor@wilhelp.com> wrote in message
news:434ceb0f.268130390@wilhelp.com...
> On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 19:22:52 GMT, "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info>
> wrote:
>
> >His websites claim you are a spammer (criminal offence) and a psychopath.
> >That's a hell of a start on a defamation case !
>
> But in order to prove I have been damaged in any way I have to have been
> damaged in any way. Do you believe his incoherent rants? Lets face it,
> all you know is what little of you have seen of my posts here in RAMJW
> and what Brad has posted here...
>
> The fact that nobody believes Brad here on Usenet and like I said,
> anyone I know in person and do business with means I have not been
> damaged. ...