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Cal 12-27-2004 07:49 PM

stablizer bar question....
 
Hi

I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar may be
bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear, but i
have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in the
road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4 inch,
and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move the
bar at all? Are the bushings difficult to replace? It appears to have some
sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under the jeep
yet to see if the cover needs to be removed. Will I have to remove the
links? Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would prove
these bushings are bad?

thanks!

cal





DougW 12-27-2004 08:03 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
Cal did pass the time by typing:
> Hi
>
> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar may be
> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear, but i
> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in the
> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4 inch,
> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move the
> bar at all?


It can move, but shouldn't move too easily.

> Are the bushings difficult to replace?


only if you don't have the tools. :)

> It appears to have some
> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under the jeep
> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed.


It does, Your looking at a plastic deflector that is held in my christmas
tree pegs or bolts depending on the time of mfg.

> Will I have to remove the
> links?


You should do it all at once, but no.

> Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would prove
> these bushings are bad?

http://members.cox.net/wilsond/swaybar/

Howto:
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/front...way/index.html

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Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
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DougW 12-27-2004 08:03 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
Cal did pass the time by typing:
> Hi
>
> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar may be
> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear, but i
> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in the
> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4 inch,
> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move the
> bar at all?


It can move, but shouldn't move too easily.

> Are the bushings difficult to replace?


only if you don't have the tools. :)

> It appears to have some
> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under the jeep
> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed.


It does, Your looking at a plastic deflector that is held in my christmas
tree pegs or bolts depending on the time of mfg.

> Will I have to remove the
> links?


You should do it all at once, but no.

> Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would prove
> these bushings are bad?

http://members.cox.net/wilsond/swaybar/

Howto:
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/front...way/index.html

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!





DougW 12-27-2004 08:03 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
Cal did pass the time by typing:
> Hi
>
> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar may be
> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear, but i
> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in the
> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4 inch,
> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move the
> bar at all?


It can move, but shouldn't move too easily.

> Are the bushings difficult to replace?


only if you don't have the tools. :)

> It appears to have some
> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under the jeep
> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed.


It does, Your looking at a plastic deflector that is held in my christmas
tree pegs or bolts depending on the time of mfg.

> Will I have to remove the
> links?


You should do it all at once, but no.

> Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would prove
> these bushings are bad?

http://members.cox.net/wilsond/swaybar/

Howto:
http://members.cox.net/wilsond/front...way/index.html

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!





DougW 12-27-2004 08:12 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
DougW did pass the time by typing:
> Cal did pass the time by typing:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar may be
>> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear, but i
>> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in the
>> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4 inch,
>> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move the
>> bar at all?

>
> It can move, but shouldn't move too easily.
>
>> Are the bushings difficult to replace?

>
> only if you don't have the tools. :)
>
>> It appears to have some
>> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under the jeep
>> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed.

>
> It does, Your looking at a plastic deflector that is held in my christmas

^^
by

fooey. :)

> tree pegs or bolts depending on the time of mfg.
>
>> Will I have to remove the
>> links?

>
> You should do it all at once, but no.
>
>> Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would prove
>> these bushings are bad?

> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/swaybar/
>
> Howto:
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/front...way/index.html





DougW 12-27-2004 08:12 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
DougW did pass the time by typing:
> Cal did pass the time by typing:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar may be
>> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear, but i
>> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in the
>> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4 inch,
>> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move the
>> bar at all?

>
> It can move, but shouldn't move too easily.
>
>> Are the bushings difficult to replace?

>
> only if you don't have the tools. :)
>
>> It appears to have some
>> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under the jeep
>> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed.

>
> It does, Your looking at a plastic deflector that is held in my christmas

^^
by

fooey. :)

> tree pegs or bolts depending on the time of mfg.
>
>> Will I have to remove the
>> links?

>
> You should do it all at once, but no.
>
>> Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would prove
>> these bushings are bad?

> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/swaybar/
>
> Howto:
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/front...way/index.html





DougW 12-27-2004 08:12 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
DougW did pass the time by typing:
> Cal did pass the time by typing:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar may be
>> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear, but i
>> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in the
>> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4 inch,
>> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move the
>> bar at all?

>
> It can move, but shouldn't move too easily.
>
>> Are the bushings difficult to replace?

>
> only if you don't have the tools. :)
>
>> It appears to have some
>> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under the jeep
>> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed.

>
> It does, Your looking at a plastic deflector that is held in my christmas

^^
by

fooey. :)

> tree pegs or bolts depending on the time of mfg.
>
>> Will I have to remove the
>> links?

>
> You should do it all at once, but no.
>
>> Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would prove
>> these bushings are bad?

> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/swaybar/
>
> Howto:
> http://members.cox.net/wilsond/front...way/index.html





flyairam@juno.com 12-31-2004 10:25 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
Cal,

My wife has a 97 Jeep G.C. like the one you own. I had a similar issue
with noises coming from the front end, a dry rubber type noise that you
described and and clunk whilst turning.

The clunk was the panhard bar (track bar), it is a bear to get to but
not difficult to r & r. Incidentally, some posters have said that they
played heck getting the track bar ends to line up, using jacks, rough
language, and other means of persuasion. It's much simpler to get
someone to turn the steering wheel (which will move the car - not the
wheels - when the bar is disconnected.

The dry rubber noise you described can be fixed with nothing more than
a shot of silicon lube, one that does not harm rubber. Don't waste
money on replacing the mounts, they don't need it.

My $.02 worth.

RAH out.
====================
Cal wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar

may be
> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear,

but i
> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in

the
> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4

inch,
> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move

the
> bar at all? Are the bushings difficult to replace? It appears to

have some
> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under

the jeep
> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed. Will I have to remove

the
> links? Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would

prove
> these bushings are bad?
>
> thanks!
>
> cal



flyairam@juno.com 12-31-2004 10:25 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
Cal,

My wife has a 97 Jeep G.C. like the one you own. I had a similar issue
with noises coming from the front end, a dry rubber type noise that you
described and and clunk whilst turning.

The clunk was the panhard bar (track bar), it is a bear to get to but
not difficult to r & r. Incidentally, some posters have said that they
played heck getting the track bar ends to line up, using jacks, rough
language, and other means of persuasion. It's much simpler to get
someone to turn the steering wheel (which will move the car - not the
wheels - when the bar is disconnected.

The dry rubber noise you described can be fixed with nothing more than
a shot of silicon lube, one that does not harm rubber. Don't waste
money on replacing the mounts, they don't need it.

My $.02 worth.

RAH out.
====================
Cal wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar

may be
> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear,

but i
> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in

the
> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4

inch,
> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move

the
> bar at all? Are the bushings difficult to replace? It appears to

have some
> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under

the jeep
> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed. Will I have to remove

the
> links? Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would

prove
> these bushings are bad?
>
> thanks!
>
> cal



flyairam@juno.com 12-31-2004 10:25 PM

Re: stablizer bar question....
 
Cal,

My wife has a 97 Jeep G.C. like the one you own. I had a similar issue
with noises coming from the front end, a dry rubber type noise that you
described and and clunk whilst turning.

The clunk was the panhard bar (track bar), it is a bear to get to but
not difficult to r & r. Incidentally, some posters have said that they
played heck getting the track bar ends to line up, using jacks, rough
language, and other means of persuasion. It's much simpler to get
someone to turn the steering wheel (which will move the car - not the
wheels - when the bar is disconnected.

The dry rubber noise you described can be fixed with nothing more than
a shot of silicon lube, one that does not harm rubber. Don't waste
money on replacing the mounts, they don't need it.

My $.02 worth.

RAH out.
====================
Cal wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a '97 GC, and i THINK the bushings on the front stalilizer bar

may be
> bad. I know there are a lot of possibilities for the noise i hear,

but i
> have noticed a 'scrunching' sound when i go over some depressions in

the
> road. I can pull the stabilizer bar from side to side, perhaps 1/4

inch,
> and it makes a similar sound when it moves. Should i be able to move

the
> bar at all? Are the bushings difficult to replace? It appears to

have some
> sort of cover over the bushing clamps, but I haven't crawled under

the jeep
> yet to see if the cover needs to be removed. Will I have to remove

the
> links? Any other noticeable symptom that I'm missing that would

prove
> these bushings are bad?
>
> thanks!
>
> cal




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